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legendary
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April 03, 2014, 05:53:13 AM
So what would they be trying to cover up and what makes you think this?

My guess:

1. Suspicious (and illegal) cargo was loaded with the tacit permission from the Malaysian government. Can be gold, can be tons of $$$, or it can even be nuclear fuel or biological weapons.

2. People with fake identities were on the flight, with tacit permission from the Malays. May be FBI spies, or can even be the Malay Secret Service Personnel.
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April 03, 2014, 04:56:49 AM
They are either incredibly incompetent, or they're really trying to cover up something. I am inclining towards the former.

I think that the latter is true. They are definitely hiding something.

yeah I think so too, and now they will use the cover of "its a criminal investigation" to help cover it up and blame it on the pilots.


So what would they be trying to cover up and what makes you think this?
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April 02, 2014, 10:02:07 PM
yeah I think so too, and now they will use the cover of "its a criminal investigation" to help cover it up and blame it on the pilots.
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April 02, 2014, 08:09:43 PM
They are either incredibly incompetent, or they're really trying to cover up something. I am inclining towards the former.

I think that the latter is true. They are definitely hiding something.
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April 02, 2014, 06:56:51 PM
For all this time Malaysian officals have been more confused than the two lunatics after the downhill ride in a rolling barrel. They are either incredibly incompetent, or they're really trying to cover up something. I am inclining towards the former.
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April 02, 2014, 03:12:41 PM
Yes, but you see, all you need is a hint. I look at both the above final words and see nothing. You see a possible suicide. That's the difference between a rational person and a conspiracy theorist. Sure, the plane might be a suicide/hijacking/cover-up, but I'll wait for more evidence than just speculating and propagating conspiracies based on essentially nothing or a hunch. They really don't help in actually uncovering what really happened, just add more confusion.

To assume an outcome is not plausible simply because it involves a conspiracy seems short sighted and irrational.

I think it's conspiracies that are short sighted and irrational. I'm not discrediting it because it's a conspiracy, but because they're conspiracies based off nothing but hunches and imagination. It's always more exciting to go with a wild and extravagant theory than to just think accidents happen. Maybe there is a conspiracy or cover-up, but there's no evidence for that yet. If evidence emerges of one I'll probably be shouting "Conspiracy!" louder than you.

Just out of curiosity, given the situation with MH370, what type of evidence could be presented that would satisfy a conspiracy or cover-up in your mind?

You know, some actual evidence. It's very rare that governments get away with cover ups, especially on this scale, but people just like to assume everything is one. What exactly do the Malaysian government (or whoever you think is behind this) have to gain or lose from covering it up?
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April 02, 2014, 02:54:28 PM
Yes, but you see, all you need is a hint. I look at both the above final words and see nothing. You see a possible suicide. That's the difference between a rational person and a conspiracy theorist. Sure, the plane might be a suicide/hijacking/cover-up, but I'll wait for more evidence than just speculating and propagating conspiracies based on essentially nothing or a hunch. They really don't help in actually uncovering what really happened, just add more confusion.

To assume an outcome is not plausible simply because it involves a conspiracy seems short sighted and irrational.

I think it's conspiracies that are short sighted and irrational. I'm not discrediting it because it's a conspiracy, but because they're conspiracies based off nothing but hunches and imagination. It's always more exciting to go with a wild and extravagant theory than to just think accidents happen. Maybe there is a conspiracy or cover-up, but there's no evidence for that yet. If evidence emerges of one I'll probably be shouting "Conspiracy!" louder than you.

Yes but the problem is that the whole point of a cover-up is to hide the evidence. A decent conspiracy and cover up will provide no immediate evidence of a cover-up or will provide/manifest evidence pointing to any other 'rational' conclusion, but this usually comes with inconsistencies which breed conspiracy theorists. Inconsistencies exist in non-conspiracy related events as well, for me its just about the number of inconsistencies in a particular situation to make me question something further... like this plane.

Maybe it just depends on how many of those inconsistencies you can logically accept before believing its a conspiracy?  

Just out of curiosity, given the situation with MH370, what type of evidence could be presented that would satisfy a conspiracy or cover-up in your mind?
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April 02, 2014, 02:34:33 PM
Yes, but you see, all you need is a hint. I look at both the above final words and see nothing. You see a possible suicide. That's the difference between a rational person and a conspiracy theorist. Sure, the plane might be a suicide/hijacking/cover-up, but I'll wait for more evidence than just speculating and propagating conspiracies based on essentially nothing or a hunch. They really don't help in actually uncovering what really happened, just add more confusion.

To assume an outcome is not plausible simply because it involves a conspiracy seems short sighted and irrational.

I think it's conspiracies that are short sighted and irrational. I'm not discrediting it because it's a conspiracy, but because they're conspiracies based off nothing but hunches and imagination. It's always more exciting to go with a wild and extravagant theory than to just think accidents happen. Maybe there is a conspiracy or cover-up, but there's no evidence for that yet. If evidence emerges of one I'll probably be shouting "Conspiracy!" louder than you.

LOL, you're hilarious!
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April 02, 2014, 02:27:51 PM
Yes, but you see, all you need is a hint. I look at both the above final words and see nothing. You see a possible suicide. That's the difference between a rational person and a conspiracy theorist. Sure, the plane might be a suicide/hijacking/cover-up, but I'll wait for more evidence than just speculating and propagating conspiracies based on essentially nothing or a hunch. They really don't help in actually uncovering what really happened, just add more confusion.

To assume an outcome is not plausible simply because it involves a conspiracy seems short sighted and irrational.

I think it's conspiracies that are short sighted and irrational. I'm not discrediting it because it's a conspiracy, but because they're conspiracies based off nothing but hunches and imagination. It's always more exciting to go with a wild and extravagant theory than to just think accidents happen. Maybe there is a conspiracy or cover-up, but there's no evidence for that yet. If evidence emerges of one I'll probably be shouting "Conspiracy!" louder than you.
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April 02, 2014, 02:16:09 PM
Yes, but you see, all you need is a hint. I look at both the above final words and see nothing. You see a possible suicide. That's the difference between a rational person and a conspiracy theorist. Sure, the plane might be a suicide/hijacking/cover-up, but I'll wait for more evidence than just speculating and propagating conspiracies based on essentially nothing or a hunch. They really don't help in actually uncovering what really happened, just add more confusion.

We will agree to disagree.   Wink

I look at the change in final words combined with the numerous inconsistencies/fact changes/misinformation coming from the people supposedly running the investigation and I see reason to believe a potential cover up of something. IMO, I am not sure why it is not reasonable to consider the possibility of a hijacking or a conspiracy. To assume an outcome is not plausible simply because it involves a conspiracy seems short sighted and irrational.

My speculation of a possible hijacking/cover-up/conspiracy comes from the unsettling occurring in that area of the world, the fact that planes are a target for hijacking (and easy to blame terrorists on), the lack of a distress signal, the communications systems being manually turned off to attempt and 'hide' the plane, and just a general feeling that something isn't right, Yes, a hunch .... but on top of everything else.

Malaysia airlines has been through a plane crash investigation before. From day 1 they seem to be stumbling around playing stupid. And, if there facts are accurate, they failed to get accurate communication information from the plane on day 1. Again, makes no sense, it seems that this would be the first thing they would look at, to see what was communicated from the plane last. How do you get this wrong?...  and to only get around to figuring this out now?

You are welcome to sit and wait for those same people to present you the evidence you require. I am happy the Australians have gotten involved and attempted to take the lead, because I do not believe they would have anything to do with this type of a hijacking/conspiracy but the Malaysians are just constantly confusing the situation for all countries involved.

Sure, the Malaysians could be getting 'setup' to take the fall, but now you're delving into conspiracies that I believe are more far-fetched and harder to pull off.

In the end, I do not really believe this was a suicide and was not intending to imply that the pilot committed suicide based on either set of last words. As mentioned once before, conspiracies and corruption will continue to evolve. Not only the way they are planned and executed but also how they are camouflaged.

Because for some out there, the ends will always justify whatever means they need to get to whatever their end goal is. Everything else is just collateral damage.

NOTE: I realize I have trust issues, but I don't believe they are unjustified.  Grin

EDIT: I'll try to summarize my posts more.....  this is why I can't use twitter.  Undecided

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April 02, 2014, 09:52:34 AM
"Good night flight 370"

Thats code for, were taking your jumbojet and you'll never see it again.

Or "goodbye, cruel world"  Grin.
"Good night flight 370" is definitely my choice Grin
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April 02, 2014, 09:50:54 AM
"Good night flight 370"

Thats code for, were taking your jumbojet and you'll never see it again.

Or "goodbye, cruel world"  Grin.
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April 02, 2014, 09:40:18 AM
"Good night flight 370"

Thats code for, were taking your jumbojet and you'll never see it again.
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April 02, 2014, 09:39:16 AM
I still don't understand how you can just suddenly change the final words weeks later and change it to words that would hint at suicide. And now they don't even know who spoke the last words?  

Before: All right Good Night
After: Good Night Flight 370


And people wonder why I keep ending up with a tinfoil hat on.  Roll Eyes



In what way does either of those hint at suicide? People think you've got a tinfoil hat on because you see and make up scenarios and conspiracies based on little to no evidence.
Based on little evidence, sure, but that's because there is only little evidence to go on. Assuming *anything* at this point is considered a conspiracy theory with your mindset because its all with little to no evidence.

The 'after' version could be implied that whoever was saying "good night" was saying it TO Flight 370, before they destroyed it. My point is, it's more of a hint towards suicide with their new words then with their old words.


Yes, but you see, all you need is a hint. I look at both the above final words and see nothing. You see a possible suicide. That's the difference between a rational person and a conspiracy theorist. Sure, the plane might be a suicide/hijacking/cover-up, but I'll wait for more evidence than just speculating and propagating conspiracies based on essentially nothing or a hunch. They really don't help in actually uncovering what really happened, just add more confusion.
legendary
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April 02, 2014, 09:22:37 AM
I still don't understand how you can just suddenly change the final words weeks later and change it to words that would hint at suicide. And now they don't even know who spoke the last words?  

Before: All right Good Night
After: Good Night Flight 370

And people wonder why I keep ending up with a tinfoil hat on.  Roll Eyes



In what way does either of those hint at suicide? People think you've got a tinfoil hat on because you see and make up scenarios and conspiracies based on little to no evidence.
Based on little evidence, sure, but that's because there is only little evidence to go on. Assuming *anything* at this point is considered a conspiracy theory with your mindset because its all with little to no evidence.

The 'after' version could be implied that whoever was saying "good night" was saying it TO Flight 370, before they destroyed it. My point is, it's more of a hint towards suicide with their new words then with their old words.
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April 02, 2014, 07:07:31 AM
And yet we are discussing matter of one plane while Putin invades whole country...

Lol stop watching CNN that's bullshit, he didn't invade anyone Crimea was always an autonomous region all russians
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April 02, 2014, 07:00:41 AM
And yet we are discussing matter of one plane while Putin invades whole country...
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April 02, 2014, 06:54:01 AM
I still don't understand how you can just suddenly change the final words weeks later and change it to words that would hint at suicide. And now they don't even know who spoke the last words?  

The Malaysians were lying. They will lie again. There is something fishy and Malaysia doesn't want the world to know the truth about MH370.

Something is being with held thats for sure and I doubt we will ever find out the real truth.

May be the plane was carrying some suspicious cargo. Or there were some "suspicious" people on-board (I am not talking about the two Iranians).

Or they along with the rest of the world searching for it just have no idea what happened to it. Why does there always have to be a cover up or something being withheld? Just seems a whole lot of speculation based on nothing but maybes and probablys without waiting for any real evidence.
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April 02, 2014, 06:50:16 AM
Something is being with held thats for sure and I doubt we will ever find out the real truth.

May be the plane was carrying some suspicious cargo. Or there were some "suspicious" people on-board (I am not talking about the two Iranians).
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April 02, 2014, 06:44:05 AM
Something is being with held thats for sure and I doubt we will ever find out the real truth.
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