Topic: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. WTF? - page 33. (Read 49322 times)
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I wonder if any site will have the balls to do an April Fool's story that they found it?
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I think the solution is obvious. We need more witch-doctors!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwvKXIOwCjc
Clearly, if a few witch-doctors does not work, we need a whole army of them! That'd solve the problem for sure!!!
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I think the solution is obvious. We need more witch-doctors!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwvKXIOwCjc
Clearly, if a few witch-doctors does not work, we need a whole army of them! That'd solve the problem for sure!!!
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While GPS is indeed a receiver, in it basic for it is passive, since it was built for the army in a way that when you are in an enemy territory you don't emit a signal and thus you can't be detected, but today there are variants that are Active, not to mention the complementary services that are there track and sent those data back, If I'm not mistaking modern planes are equiped with such device, but I'm not so sure
Nonsense. You clearly have no idea how GPS works. It is 100% passive. There are way to improve GPS accuracy and the time it takes to acquire the signal that rely on cell tower triangulation, A-GPS (which just grabs up to date GPS satellite location data from the network), differential GPS etc, but none of those involve talking to the satellites. GPS satellites simply do not have any capability to receive data beyond control data from the operator, and none of the systems mentioned will work when there is no cell coverage.
Afaik, millitary GPS'es are more accurate than those for civil usage as well.
While GPS is indeed a receiver, in it basic for it is passive, since it was built for the army in a way that when you are in an enemy territory you don't emit a signal and thus you can't be detected, but today there are variants that are Active, not to mention the complementary services that are there track and sent those data back, If I'm not mistaking modern planes are equiped with such device, but I'm not so sure
Nonsense. You clearly have no idea how GPS works. It is 100% passive. There are way to improve GPS accuracy and the time it takes to acquire the signal that rely on cell tower triangulation, A-GPS (which just grabs up to date GPS satellite location data from the network), differential GPS etc, but none of those involve talking to the satellites. GPS satellites simply do not have any capability to receive data beyond control data from the operator, and none of the systems mentioned will work when there is no cell coverage.
And what do you think "weather" is ? Let me help by quoting wiki: "Weather is the state of the atmosphere".
The word stateis the most important one in there.
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GPS is a receiver. There is no communication in the other direction whatsoever, its a passive device, just like an FM radio.
While GPS is indeed a receiver, in it basic for it is passive, since it was built for the army in a way that when you are in an enemy territory you don't emit a signal and thus you can't be detected, but today there are variants that are Active, not to mention the complementary services that are there track and sent those data back, If I'm not mistaking modern planes are equiped with such device, but I'm not so sure
And..... Its still fucking missing. How wonderful.
This will go down as one of the greatest aviation mysteries ever!
This will go down as one of the greatest aviation mysteries ever!
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Fake and stolen passports are a massive problem and not that uncommon. Most are just used by illegal immigrants etc though, not terrorists. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/09/stolen-passports-malaysia-flight/6230767/
Yepp, agreed - the whole terrorist thing is owerblown. More people die every day in car accidents in the US than from the hands of terrorists. Not to talk about deaths from mixing prescription drugs and alcohol for example. It's good to know that the money is used where they're most needed!
Well 'terrorism' is just used as a propaganda tool. The biggest terrorist network in the world is the USG. Apparently it's not terrorism unless you're a Muslim though (or look like you might be one).
And a good argument for the plane not landing anywhere is that how could it ever be used again without being spotted, and if it never was used again why take it in the first place?
And the most reasonable explanation is that everybody just perished at sea.
And the most reasonable explanation is that everybody just perished at sea.
Yep, exactly, but this sort of logic wont satisfy conspiracy theorists.
Fake and stolen passports are a massive problem and not that uncommon. Most are just used by illegal immigrants etc though, not terrorists. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/09/stolen-passports-malaysia-flight/6230767/
Yepp, agreed - the whole terrorist thing is owerblown. More people die every day in car accidents in the US than from the hands of terrorists. Not to talk about deaths from mixing prescription drugs and alcohol for example. It's good to know that the money is used where they're most needed!
That was off topic btw - but unless there can be given proof that the ones with illegal passports on the flight had some shady connections, that's a non issue imo.
And a good argument for the plane not landing anywhere is that how could it ever be used again without being spotted, and if it never was used again why take it in the first place?
And the most reasonable explanation is that everybody just perished at sea.
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Anyone here have any ideas on what might have happened here. I fly a lot and its beyond me that this can happen.
Fake passports? I reckon there are several flights conducted every day on a world basis where at least one passenger has a fake passport.
No-fly lists are ineffective, those resourceful enough to be a major treat are also able to create fake identities.
Fake and stolen passports are a massive problem and not that uncommon. Most are just used by illegal immigrants etc though, not terrorists. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/09/stolen-passports-malaysia-flight/6230767/
Anyone here have any ideas on what might have happened here. I fly a lot and its beyond me that this can happen.
Plane sinks at sea. How many times has it happened in world history?
Fake passports? I reckon there are several flights conducted every day on a world basis where at least one passenger has a fake passport.
No-fly lists are ineffective, those resourceful enough to be a major treat are also able to create fake identities.
I dont understand how in this day and age a Boeing 777 can drop out of the sky and leave no clues as to where it is.
I see a bunch of speculation from the news agencies regarding the Iranian passengers who used stolen passports to board the plane bla bla bla.
I wonder if its possible that the plane was hijacked, and then was flown low enough as to not appear on radar and landed in some hatred filled country. Like North Korea for example.
Is this possible?
Anyone here have any ideas on what might have happened here. I fly a lot and its beyond me that this can happen.
I see a bunch of speculation from the news agencies regarding the Iranian passengers who used stolen passports to board the plane bla bla bla.
I wonder if its possible that the plane was hijacked, and then was flown low enough as to not appear on radar and landed in some hatred filled country. Like North Korea for example.
Is this possible?
Anyone here have any ideas on what might have happened here. I fly a lot and its beyond me that this can happen.
Ask the government, they know! They lie and cover up..
Do i need a proxy to make this post? I worry the feds will be Waterboarding me if i don't use proxy or shut the f** up just like they doing to the Chinese passengers right now..
I didn't say jack, so you didn't hear jack!
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It amazes me that Hollywood would have us believe military satellites can read your morning newspaper from ten miles away. Obviously untrue. But I don't understand how they can't get ANYthing? Just on the simplest most basic level, there were 250 people with cell phones, and I'm sure they had onboard wifi, they can't use the telcom satellites to triangulate the last ping...? Or is there some reason that would not be feasible...?
The search area is enormous. It is extremely ridiculous, which is why they haven't really found anything. The plane could also simply not have been there.Yeah, they're not really sure where it went after they lost contact so it seems they're looking in the wrong places. Needle in a haystack scenario.
It's much worse than that because they don't even know where the haystack is.
Indeed, and when they think they do they're still looking in the wrong place. I'm also getting a little bit tired of BREAKING NEWS: THE DEBRIS THAT WE SPOTTED ISN'T FROM THE PLANE etc. How is that breaking news?
It amazes me that Hollywood would have us believe military satellites can read your morning newspaper from ten miles away. Obviously untrue. But I don't understand how they can't get ANYthing? Just on the simplest most basic level, there were 250 people with cell phones, and I'm sure they had onboard wifi, they can't use the telcom satellites to triangulate the last ping...? Or is there some reason that would not be feasible...?
The search area is enormous. It is extremely ridiculous, which is why they haven't really found anything. The plane could also simply not have been there.Yeah, they're not really sure where it went after they lost contact so it seems they're looking in the wrong places. Needle in a haystack scenario.
It's much worse than that because they don't even know where the haystack is.
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It amazes me that Hollywood would have us believe military satellites can read your morning newspaper from ten miles away. Obviously untrue. But I don't understand how they can't get ANYthing? Just on the simplest most basic level, there were 250 people with cell phones, and I'm sure they had onboard wifi, they can't use the telcom satellites to triangulate the last ping...? Or is there some reason that would not be feasible...?
The search area is enormous. It is extremely ridiculous, which is why they haven't really found anything. The plane could also simply not have been there.Yeah, they're not really sure where it went after they lost contact so it seems they're looking in the wrong places. Needle in a haystack scenario.
Exactly, although for the atmosphere they use adaptive optics to reduce the interference, maybe you meant weather 
And what do you think "weather" is ? Let me help by quoting wiki: "Weather is the state of the atmosphere".
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Phones do connect to satellites, not for communication tho but for gps and other similar services
GPS is a receiver. There is no communication in the other direction whatsoever, its a passive device, just like an FM radio.
It amazes me that Hollywood would have us believe military satellites can read your morning newspaper from ten miles away. Obviously untrue. But I don't understand how they can't get ANYthing? Just on the simplest most basic level, there were 250 people with cell phones, and I'm sure they had onboard wifi, they can't use the telcom satellites to triangulate the last ping...? Or is there some reason that would not be feasible...?
The search area is enormous. It is extremely ridiculous, which is why they haven't really found anything. The plane could also simply not have been there. Its only a slight exaggeration, while you will never be able to read the newspaper, it is possible to recognize a newpaper but that also requires perfect atmospheric conditions, something you almost never have over an ocean.
People also fail to grasp just how big the search area is. Something like 8 million square kilometers. Enough to fit 8,000,000,000,000 newspapers and you are looking for partially submerged debris (possibly not much bigger than a newspaper) hidden in waves. To say thats monumental is an understatement.
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Cell phones dont connect to satellites, nor does wifi. The antenna's and frequency simply dont work at that range and crossing the ionosphere, even if there is something that tries to register it. If the plane had some satellite data connection for onboard internet or telephone, then Im assuming it was shut down along with acars, transponder and all other comms.
Phones do connect to satellites, not for communication tho but for gps and other similar services (unless we are speaking about a satellite phones which use satellite as a mean of communication and by pass ground network) but the gps network deals with billions of devices and I believe it is not built to pin point or track people the other way around, also the phones are probably dead either battery drainage or just being under water
It amazes me that Hollywood would have us believe military satellites can read your morning newspaper from ten miles away. Obviously untrue.
Its only a slight exaggeration, while you will never be able to read the newspaper, it is possible to recognize a newpaper but that also requires perfect atmospheric conditions, something you almost never have over an ocean.
People also fail to grasp just how big the search area is. Something like 8 million square kilometers. Enough to fit 8,000,000,000,000 newspapers and you are looking for partially submerged debris (possibly not much bigger than a newspaper) hidden in waves. To say thats monumental is an understatement.
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But I don't understand how they can't get ANYthing? Just on the simplest most basic level, there were 250 people with cell phones, and I'm sure they had onboard wifi, they can't use the telcom satellites to triangulate the last ping...?
Cell phones dont connect to satellites, nor does wifi. The antenna's and frequency simply dont work at that range and crossing the ionosphere, even if there is something that tries to register it. If the plane had some satellite data connection for onboard internet or telephone, then Im assuming it was shut down along with acars, transponder and all other comms.
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