Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman on July 20 - page 30.

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Quote from: sunsilk on June 21, 2019, 01:39:29 AM

I don't know about the decision of Broner but it must be personal because he lost against Pacquiao and as for Crawford, their fight has never been set. All of the rumors has been told that they were about to fight but nothing happened so I think both votes were personal against Pacquiao.

Broner with a loud mouth that believes he won the game against PACMAN, whoever boxer this guy will back, I'll bet against him.
I'm confident as I know he'll not favor PACMAN to win this fight since got beaten up. LOL

That guy is a joke, forget about him and I think his choice is base on that. He will never put his favor to Pacquiao, he lost the match and he's still bitter and can't accept the fact that he lost to him.

He seriously has to make up and wake up his mind so that he can stop dreaming about that fight. Until now, he can't move on.

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But the thing is if Pacman is not the favourite and the line is good then we should bet for Pacman if we know that he can bet Thurman here.

That's the opportunity for those who bet on Pacman, they'll give a good winning since the odds is over 100+.

The odds might change as the match goes near so look closely.

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Quote from: peter0425 on June 21, 2019, 09:02:09 AM

Those odd makers have been in the business for so long that they really know who to side in this fight.

That's not the main reason, the main reason is that is their job to make the odds fair for both teams, so they can attract gamblers to bet on both side so they'll be ensured with their commission. They are just the facilitators here, they like equal action in every game or fight.

Quote from: peter0425 on June 21, 2019, 09:02:09 AM

But the thing is if Pacman is not the favourite and the line is good then we should bet for Pacman if we know that he can bet Thurman here.

That's the opportunity for those who bet on Pacman, they'll give a good winning since the odds is over 100+.

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 21, 2019, 03:15:27 AM

The betting sides concluded it, we may have look it the other way around, but they stand on what they believe.

What we should do now is put our money where out heart is.

And most probably most of the bet will goes to Manny Pacman Pacquiao. This because Manny has already proven its fighting skills in the ring and never has been back down in every match especially to the beginners that are underestimating Manny Pacman Pacquiao's ability when it comes to his strength, speed and power.

If that would be the scenario then the Pacman will be the favorite when most of bettors will be on his side. It's the odds maker that is responsible for the line odds, that's their job and they know what they are doing so let's respect that and as bettors put our money where our guts tells us. I'm happy with the line odds as i am for the Pacman.

Those odd makers have been in the business for so long that they really know who to side in this fight. But the thing is if Pacman is not the favourite and the line is good then we should bet for Pacman if we know that he can bet Thurman here.

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Quote from: jademaxsuy on June 21, 2019, 03:23:48 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on June 21, 2019, 03:15:27 AM

The betting sides concluded it, we may have look it the other way around, but they stand on what they believe.

What we should do now is put our money where out heart is.

And most probably most of the bet will goes to Manny Pacman Pacquiao. This because Manny has already proven its fighting skills in the ring and never has been back down in every match especially to the beginners that are underestimating Manny Pacman Pacquiao's ability when it comes to his strength, speed and power.

If that would be the scenario then the Pacman will be the favorite when most of bettors will be on his side. It's the odds maker that is responsible for the line odds, that's their job and they know what they are doing so let's respect that and as bettors put our money where our guts tells us. I'm happy with the line odds as i am for the Pacman.

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 21, 2019, 03:15:27 AM

The betting sides concluded it, we may have look it the other way around, but they stand on what they believe.

What we should do now is put our money where out heart is.

And most probably most of the bet will goes to Manny Pacman Pacquiao. This because Manny has already proven its fighting skills in the ring and never has been back down in every match especially to the beginners that are underestimating Manny Pacman Pacquiao's ability when it comes to his strength, speed and power.

Numbers of bettors will continue to support Manny as there's a lots of fans than gamblers who are just aiming for the win, fans will bring the odds
to keep changing up when the fight is getting closer, it's a valuable bets since Manny is near to its retiring age so betting with his fight will be a
good gamble showing support to your idol.

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 21, 2019, 12:32:45 AM

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Quote from: TheNewAnon135246 on June 20, 2019, 02:16:04 PM

This should be a good fight. Might place a small bet on Pacquiao.

A lot of people are placing bets in favor of Pacquiao and I am sure that the gambling sites are very happy. I too would have placed a bet in favor of him, had they offered at least 250 against 100. But the best they got is 210, and considering all the parameters, it is not worth the risk. I was thinking about placing a bet in favor of Thurman, but hasn't decided yet. Most of the sites are offering 170-180, and I think that it is a very good deal. My personal prediction is that Thurman has around 75% chance of an outright win.

How can we sure that a lot of people are betting on Pacman, maybe only those fans would say, but Thurman also has a lot of fans.
We can only based on the odds, here, Thurman is the favorites, so obviously there's no enough money betting on Pacman to change the odds.

We still don't know for now if who will really win on July 20. But lets just wait for the result, I will also put my bet to Pacman because I believe that he has a big chance to win the fight on July 20, 2019. I know, there's many people will watch the fight on July.

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 21, 2019, 03:15:27 AM

The betting sides concluded it, we may have look it the other way around, but they stand on what they believe.

What we should do now is put our money where out heart is.

And most probably most of the bet will goes to Manny Pacman Pacquiao. This because Manny has already proven its fighting skills in the ring and never has been back down in every match especially to the beginners that are underestimating Manny Pacman Pacquiao's ability when it comes to his strength, speed and power.

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Quote from: darklus123 on June 21, 2019, 01:15:55 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on June 21, 2019, 12:32:45 AM

How can we sure that a lot of people are betting on Pacman, maybe only those fans would say, but Thurman also has a lot of fans.
We can only based on the odds, here, Thurman is the favorites, so obviously there's no enough money betting on Pacman to change the odds.

Based on the odds provided it is obvious that Thurman indeed has the odds. However that cannot be concluded that he was the crowd favorite. It's just that Filipinos mostly don't bet that much every pacmans fight but yeah we are one nation here supporting him.

Maybe because thurman is the younger one but I am not definitely impressed with his last matches. We'll just keep it that way that pacman is indeed the underdog which makes the match quite exciting

The betting sides concluded it, we may have look it the other way around, but they stand on what they believe.

What we should do now is put our money where out heart is.

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 21, 2019, 12:32:45 AM

How can we sure that a lot of people are betting on Pacman, maybe only those fans would say, but Thurman also has a lot of fans.
We can only based on the odds, here, Thurman is the favorites, so obviously there's no enough money betting on Pacman to change the odds.

Based on the odds provided it is obvious that Thurman indeed has the odds. However that cannot be concluded that he was the crowd favorite. It's just that Filipinos mostly don't bet that much every pacmans fight but yeah we are one nation here supporting him.

Maybe because thurman is the younger one but I am not definitely impressed with his last matches. We'll just keep it that way that pacman is indeed the underdog which makes the match quite exciting

Maybe Mayweather will bet. But put it into your mind that there is no such thing as sure win.

Thurman is the favorite because he is undefeated, can box and have good power. Thurman is also younger but the odds is a bit close due to his inactivity. Pacman is past his prime and if Buboy will decide on everything as the head coach I won't be surprised Pacman goes to sleep again. Buboy is nothing special. He's only up for the money.

Indeed thats why this fight is an event to look forward.

We cant deny that Manny is a legend already, and he prove to us that despite of his age he can still fight younger boxers confidently.

But since Thurman is undefeated this is another challenge for pacquiao that we should not missed.

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Quote from: darklus123 on June 21, 2019, 01:15:55 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on June 21, 2019, 12:32:45 AM

How can we sure that a lot of people are betting on Pacman, maybe only those fans would say, but Thurman also has a lot of fans.
We can only based on the odds, here, Thurman is the favorites, so obviously there's no enough money betting on Pacman to change the odds.

Based on the odds provided it is obvious that Thurman indeed has the odds. However that cannot be concluded that he was the crowd favorite. It's just that Filipinos mostly don't bet that much every pacmans fight but yeah we are one nation here supporting him.

Maybe because thurman is the younger one but I am not definitely impressed with his last matches. We'll just keep it that way that pacman is indeed the underdog which makes the match quite exciting

Maybe Mayweather will bet. But put it into your mind that there is no such thing as sure win.

Thurman is the favorite because he is undefeated, can box and have good power. Thurman is also younger but the odds is a bit close due to his inactivity. Pacman is past his prime and if Buboy will decide on everything as the head coach I won't be surprised Pacman goes to sleep again. Buboy is nothing special. He's only up for the money.

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Quote from: sunsilk on June 21, 2019, 01:39:29 AM

I don't know about the decision of Broner but it must be personal because he lost against Pacquiao and as for Crawford, their fight has never been set. All of the rumors has been told that they were about to fight but nothing happened so I think both votes were personal against Pacquiao.

Broner with a loud mouth that believes he won the game against PACMAN, whoever boxer this guy will back, I'll bet against him.
I'm confident as I know he'll not favor PACMAN to win this fight since got beaten up. LOL

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on June 20, 2019, 06:13:53 PM

I wonder who's the pick of Floyd Mayweather here. Knowing him as a promoter and gambler as well, he knows the odds on this fight and will bet on a sure win. But the list above already give's us a glimpse of what other thinks on who will win and I guess they based that on how Manny fights since most of them has been in the ring with the boxing icon.

I've looked at his social media accounts but it doesn't show any hint on where his bet is going. He knows it well because this is his expertise and industry but knowing him as a promoter, we've known him that he promoted a scam project before.

I don't know about the decision of Broner but it must be personal because he lost against Pacquiao and as for Crawford, their fight has never been set. All of the rumors has been told that they were about to fight but nothing happened so I think both votes were personal against Pacquiao.

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 21, 2019, 12:32:45 AM

How can we sure that a lot of people are betting on Pacman, maybe only those fans would say, but Thurman also has a lot of fans.
We can only based on the odds, here, Thurman is the favorites, so obviously there's no enough money betting on Pacman to change the odds.

Based on the odds provided it is obvious that Thurman indeed has the odds. However that cannot be concluded that he was the crowd favorite. It's just that Filipinos mostly don't bet that much every pacmans fight but yeah we are one nation here supporting him.

Maybe because thurman is the younger one but I am not definitely impressed with his last matches. We'll just keep it that way that pacman is indeed the underdog which makes the match quite exciting

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 20, 2019, 10:33:51 PM

Quote from: TheNewAnon135246 on June 20, 2019, 02:16:04 PM

This should be a good fight. Might place a small bet on Pacquiao.

A lot of people are placing bets in favor of Pacquiao and I am sure that the gambling sites are very happy. I too would have placed a bet in favor of him, had they offered at least 250 against 100. But the best they got is 210, and considering all the parameters, it is not worth the risk. I was thinking about placing a bet in favor of Thurman, but hasn't decided yet. Most of the sites are offering 170-180, and I think that it is a very good deal. My personal prediction is that Thurman has around 75% chance of an outright win.

How can we sure that a lot of people are betting on Pacman, maybe only those fans would say, but Thurman also has a lot of fans.
We can only based on the odds, here, Thurman is the favorites, so obviously there's no enough money betting on Pacman to change the odds.

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Quote from: TheNewAnon135246 on June 20, 2019, 02:16:04 PM

This should be a good fight. Might place a small bet on Pacquiao.

A lot of people are placing bets in favor of Pacquiao and I am sure that the gambling sites are very happy. I too would have placed a bet in favor of him, had they offered at least 250 against 100. But the best they got is 210, and considering all the parameters, it is not worth the risk. I was thinking about placing a bet in favor of Thurman, but hasn't decided yet. Most of the sites are offering 170-180, and I think that it is a very good deal. My personal prediction is that Thurman has around 75% chance of an outright win.

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Quote from: Theb on June 19, 2019, 02:12:41 PM

For Pacquiao
Mikey Garcia
Shane Mosley
Victor Ortiz
Shawn Porter
Brandon Rios
Robert Garcia's Camp

For Thurman
Terrence Crawford
Robert Garcia
Adrien Broner

I wonder who's the pick of Floyd Mayweather here. Knowing him as a promoter and gambler as well, he knows the odds on this fight and will bet on a sure win. But the list above already give's us a glimpse of what other thinks on who will win and I guess they based that on how Manny fights since most of them has been in the ring with the boxing icon.

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This should be a good fight. Might place a small bet on Pacquiao.

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Quote from: Theb on June 19, 2019, 02:12:41 PM

Now with a lot of known boxers siding with Pacquiao which some of them even shared the ring against him are siding with him. I'm still wondering why the bookies have picked Pacquiao as the underdog of the match when Thurman wasn't impressive in his comeback fight.

I'm surprised Broner went for Thurman. I guess he is still salty with his clear loss to Manny. Bookies have their own "insider info" as compared to these professional boxers. I don't know what kind of info they got but they don't always get it right.

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Quote from: mirakal on June 19, 2019, 07:37:35 PM

Guess that would be enough information that would help us not to doubt betting on Pacman, this is just a game, we never know who will win, bet it for fun and enjoy the game, that's the recipe for success in gambling.

@mirakal it should be noted that both sides whether they have losses on Pacquiao or Thurman they still have picked Manny Pacquiao to win the fight so you cannot really say that they are bias with their comments about the fight. Plus everyone who picked Pacman said one thing in common and that's “he still got that speed” which I don't think Thurman would like to seen in the ring. One thing they also forgot to include is that Pacman has unbelievable stamina at age 41 he still can last 12 rounds in the ring without showing signs of fatigue.

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@theb, That is pretty fine. During that very good old days of Pacman's career he was always been the underdog. Being an underdog can make Pacman more dangerous as he will always try to prove something.

Quote from: Jating on June 19, 2019, 10:57:27 AM

Lol, I'm pretty sure that guy didn't know the history between Manny and Buboy.

But for those who have followed Manny's career not only in the beginning of his journey to the US, we all know that Buboy is always behind Manny, no matter what, specially that lost to Jeff Horn when everyone suddenly turn their backs on Manny (Arum and even Freddy).

A very good point, that is when Pacman were able to know his real allies. Tho I completely understand Freddy's reason after that fight when manny decided not to fight in vegas but still they should have to respect his decision.

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