Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman on July 20 - page 31.

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Quote from: Lan75 on June 19, 2019, 08:24:34 PM

Quote from: Theb on June 19, 2019, 03:12:41 PM

For Pacquiao
Mikey Garcia
Shane Mosley
Victor Ortiz
Shawn Porter
Brandon Rios
Robert Garcia's Camp

For Thurman
Terrence Crawford
Robert Garcia
Adrien Broner

So far this are the only known people in the boxing industry I know who have chose who wins. Boxers like Dela Hoya, Cotto, and Golovkin evaded the question and say something like "It will be a good fight". Now with a lot of known boxers siding with Pacquiao which some of them even shared the ring against him are siding with him. I'm still wondering why the bookies have picked Pacquiao as the underdog of the match when Thurman wasn't impressive in his comeback fight.

Those people only speculate on what may happen in the fight but not sure of the outcome yet, i am wondering too on why odds maker are still putting Pacquiao on the underdog status but for sure thungs will change one week before the fight and we will see money pouring in on the Pacman. Is it good to bet for Manny now while the odds still good?

Guess that would be enough information that would help us not to doubt betting on Pacman, this is just a game, we never know who will win, bet it for fun and enjoy the game, that's the recipe for success in gambling.

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Quote from: Theb on June 19, 2019, 03:12:41 PM

For Pacquiao
Mikey Garcia
Shane Mosley
Victor Ortiz
Shawn Porter
Brandon Rios
Robert Garcia's Camp

For Thurman
Terrence Crawford
Robert Garcia
Adrien Broner

So far this are the only known people in the boxing industry I know who have chose who wins. Boxers like Dela Hoya, Cotto, and Golovkin evaded the question and say something like "It will be a good fight". Now with a lot of known boxers siding with Pacquiao which some of them even shared the ring against him are siding with him. I'm still wondering why the bookies have picked Pacquiao as the underdog of the match when Thurman wasn't impressive in his comeback fight.

Those people only speculate on what may happen in the fight but not sure of the outcome yet, i am wondering too on why odds maker are still putting Pacquiao on the underdog status but for sure thungs will change one week before the fight and we will see money pouring in on the Pacman. Is it good to bet for Manny now while the odds still good?

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Quote from: darklus123 on June 19, 2019, 09:04:39 AM

That person who said that Buboy is just nothing and pretty useless to Pacman's team actually "sucks". Maybe you were only been able to see pacman dominating inside the ring when he is already starting to get famous and haven't seen why he actually become one of the most promising boxer hall of famer before.

If Buboy did not saw that potential you will not be able to see Pacman right now.

Just forget about him, I don't really think he knows what he is saying. With the management of Buboy, people praised the guy and impressed on how he managed to replace the long time position of Roach.

He's not aware the hardships that the two childhood friends went through. The bond's important and as long as there's no problem for Manny, it should be fine.

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^ That is the question, he almost lost that fight with Lopez and Thurman was really off that night, he even admit it. So I also don't know the reason why odd makers picks Thurman as the favourite to win this fight against Pacman. I'm not surprised by those who picks Thurman to win though, Grin

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For Pacquiao
Mikey Garcia
Shane Mosley
Victor Ortiz
Shawn Porter
Brandon Rios
Robert Garcia's Camp

For Thurman
Terrence Crawford
Robert Garcia
Adrien Broner

So far this are the only known people in the boxing industry I know who have chose who wins. Boxers like Dela Hoya, Cotto, and Golovkin evaded the question and say something like "It will be a good fight". Now with a lot of known boxers siding with Pacquiao which some of them even shared the ring against him are siding with him. I'm still wondering why the bookies have picked Pacquiao as the underdog of the match when Thurman wasn't impressive in his comeback fight.

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Quote from: romero121 on June 18, 2019, 11:50:40 PM

The scheduled fight between the experience blood and the young blood. Manny and Thurman has already grabbed several championship, yet this is very important for both to show the strength. More predictions state that Thurman will beat Manny for various reasons, but to me Manny will win for few reasons. Let's wait and watch the results.

It good to be optimistic about the fighter you love or happen to be his fan and I want you to know that I also love Manny but not his fan and I will never ignore the truth about things like this.
Glad you said Thurman had various reasons to beat Manny which Manny himself confirmed that his fight with Thurman will be the biggest test of his career.

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Quote from: darklus123 on June 19, 2019, 09:04:39 AM

That person who said that Buboy is just nothing and pretty useless to Pacman's team actually "sucks". Maybe you were only been able to see pacman dominating inside the ring when he is already starting to get famous and haven't seen why he actually become one of the most promising boxer hall of famer before.

If Buboy did not saw that potential you will not be able to see Pacman right now.

Lol, I'm pretty sure that guy didn't know the history between Manny and Buboy.

But for those who have followed Manny's career not only in the beginning of his journey to the US, we all know that Buboy is always behind Manny, no matter what, specially that lost to Jeff Horn when everyone suddenly turn their backs on Manny (Arum and even Freddy).

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That person who said that Buboy is just nothing and pretty useless to Pacman's team actually "sucks". Maybe you were only been able to see pacman dominating inside the ring when he is already starting to get famous and haven't seen why he actually become one of the most promising boxer hall of famer before.

If Buboy did not saw that potential you will not be able to see Pacman right now.

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Quote from: btc_angela on June 19, 2019, 03:02:21 AM

Hard to go against Manny specially those boxers grew up watching Manny's careers.

This is true, there in the recent defeats of Manny, there's no boxer I have seen that completely dominate Manny.
His last 2 losses against Mayweather and Jeff Horn are both controversial, especially the last one where fans feels that Manny got robbed.
So there is no reason why we should bet against him, he is a legend and he still can fight, going against him is not a wise idea as he is still capable of knocking down opponents.

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Quote from: mirakal on June 19, 2019, 01:53:01 AM

Quote from: romero121 on June 18, 2019, 11:50:40 PM

More predictions state that Thurman will beat Manny for various reasons, but to me Manny will win for few reasons. Let's wait and watch the results.

I've watch predictions in youtube and I see more of them favored on Manny, it doesn't matter to me as I have my own prediction.
They called themselves expert but they could also be wrong, for me, this is a fight that Manny has to win if he wants to continue his boxing career and more fights will line up for him.

Yeah, there are some youtube who still favoured Manny to win this fight eventhough the odd makers see it differently. Those that I have seen is professional boxers, so they know a thing or two. But maybe they just choose Manny because he is a legend though. Hard to go against Manny specially those boxers grew up watching Manny's careers.

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Quote from: romero121 on June 18, 2019, 11:50:40 PM

More predictions state that Thurman will beat Manny for various reasons, but to me Manny will win for few reasons. Let's wait and watch the results.

I've watch predictions in youtube and I see more of them favored on Manny, it doesn't matter to me as I have my own prediction.
They called themselves expert but they could also be wrong, for me, this is a fight that Manny has to win if he wants to continue his boxing career and more fights will line up for him.

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The scheduled fight between the experience blood and the young blood. Manny and Thurman has already grabbed several championship, yet this is very important for both to show the strength. More predictions state that Thurman will beat Manny for various reasons, but to me Manny will win for few reasons. Let's wait and watch the results.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on June 18, 2019, 06:35:50 PM

Quote from: MMysterious on June 18, 2019, 03:49:08 AM

Buboy Fernandez is the head coach. No surprise if Thurman beats Pacman. Well, at least they travelled to the US one month early. Hoping for Freddie to do the job. Buboy is nothing special.

How can you say buboy is not special to Manny? Remember that bunoy started Manny Pacquiao's boxing career and taught him how to be a the best. The thing that Roach taught Manny was the technique but overall both coaches played different role in Manny's career.

Correct,i don't know where he do get that view that Buboy isn't really that special.If hes not important then you wont see him on the team most of the time.
There might be scenarios which he's isn't on the side but doesn't mean that they have neglected them.I agree on the fact that Freddie and Buboy do really have different role.

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Quote from: MMysterious on June 18, 2019, 03:49:08 AM

Buboy Fernandez is the head coach. No surprise if Thurman beats Pacman. Well, at least they travelled to the US one month early. Hoping for Freddie to do the job. Buboy is nothing special.

How can you say buboy is not special to Manny? Remember that bunoy started Manny Pacquiao's boxing career and taught him how to be a the best. The thing that Roach taught Manny was the technique but overall both coaches played different role in Manny's career.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 18, 2019, 09:54:20 AM

Quote from: peter0425 on June 17, 2019, 05:59:33 PM

@Vishnu.Reang - GGG is too big for Manny as this stage, if they are going to fight, GGG needs to drain himself to 150-155 lbs which is a disadvantage for him. So it won't happen.

Yup... I know it.. that's why I said that it will always remain as a day dream. Two of my favorite boxers and I really want them to fight against each other. But it is not possible, since they are in different weight classes. GGG weighed 163 lb during his fight against Steve Rolls. I don't think that he'll get below 160. Also, GGG has terminated his agreement with the Golden Boy and moved to DAZN. So the chances got reduced from very low to zero.

I think that the actual phase of their game will initiate the best results once reality comes over between the two of them. We can't conclude to the precise point that any of them will win, yet manny is more advantageous compared to the challenger. If we're looking to the chance that this guy will beat pacman.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 18, 2019, 09:54:20 AM

Quote from: peter0425 on June 17, 2019, 05:59:33 PM

@Vishnu.Reang - GGG is too big for Manny as this stage, if they are going to fight, GGG needs to drain himself to 150-155 lbs which is a disadvantage for him. So it won't happen.

Yup... I know it.. that's why I said that it will always remain as a day dream. Two of my favorite boxers and I really want them to fight against each other. But it is not possible, since they are in different weight classes. GGG weighed 163 lb during his fight against Steve Rolls. I don't think that he'll get below 160. Also, GGG has terminated his agreement with the Golden Boy and moved to DAZN. So the chances got reduced from very low to zero.

I think the closest that we see Manny fight someone in a middleweight is Antonio Margarito. It was a action packed fight and Margarito's orbital bone was broken. However, Manny suffered a lot of damage as well and I think that fight has a significant effect on him afterwards. GGG also terminated his contract with his long time coach, Abel Sanchez. And the bad thing is, after they separated ways, there seems to be animosity between the two.

Anyways, we could only see Pacquiao vs GGG in fantasy fights. Grin

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Quote from: thin on June 17, 2019, 05:48:03 PM

It is surprising that betting odds on big sport sites are not in favor of Pacquiao. I initially though that he would be a favorite, even if his best years already gone. Maybe it will add an extra motivation for him to prove he still worth to bet on!

It's okay, there were factors that has been considered on why the odds aren't in favor of Manny Pacquiao. Aren't you happy that you can bet for him and expect a better amount if he's able to win this fight?

Quote from: MMysterious on June 18, 2019, 03:49:08 AM

Buboy Fernandez is the head coach. No surprise if Thurman beats Pacman. Well, at least they travelled to the US one month early. Hoping for Freddie to do the job. Buboy is nothing special.

Manny is the one who chose him. I remember his last fight against Broner the coach was Roach. They were childhood friends and until now they are still sticked together so the bond can't be replaced by any other person. How can you say that Buboy is nothing special?

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Quote from: MMysterious on June 18, 2019, 03:49:08 AM

Buboy Fernandez is the head coach. No surprise if Thurman beats Pacman. Well, at least they travelled to the US one month early. Hoping for Freddie to do the job. Buboy is nothing special.

What do you mean that Buboy Fernandez is not special? I mean that guy was literally in the beginning of Pacquaio's career and they have formed a brotherly bond. He was the one, as far as I know who trained Manny for the Lucas Mattysse fight. And Manny listens to Buboy the same way as he listens to Freddie Roach. He was even the translator in the corner when Roach was giving instructions, so no doubt that Buboy has a lot of contributions as far as Manny careers goes, even at 40 years of age.

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Quote from: peter0425 on June 17, 2019, 05:59:33 PM

@Vishnu.Reang - GGG is too big for Manny as this stage, if they are going to fight, GGG needs to drain himself to 150-155 lbs which is a disadvantage for him. So it won't happen.

Yup... I know it.. that's why I said that it will always remain as a day dream. Two of my favorite boxers and I really want them to fight against each other. But it is not possible, since they are in different weight classes. GGG weighed 163 lb during his fight against Steve Rolls. I don't think that he'll get below 160. Also, GGG has terminated his agreement with the Golden Boy and moved to DAZN. So the chances got reduced from very low to zero.

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Quote from: MMysterious on June 18, 2019, 03:49:08 AM

Buboy Fernandez is the head coach. No surprise if Thurman beats Pacman. Well, at least they travelled to the US one month early. Hoping for Freddie to do the job. Buboy is nothing special.

Coaching staff are important but it does not solely rely on them to determine the success of this fight.
It should be coming from Manny as he is the one who will fight in the ring and this opponent is one of the biggest in name of boxing, so it needs more preparation on their side, also take not that this is a younger fighter than Manny.

It is important as training needs to be according to what type of fighters he will going face, Buboy was there after Freddie left Pacquiao he already been
in the business for so long and he also knows Pacquiao's capabilities, I agree to what you are saying Pacquiao is the one who's going to fight and he alone
will find the proper gesture trying to win over this new breed fighter.

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