We need to get 20.95% (O2) at last to live.
We don't need anywhere near that amount of O2 in the atmosphere to breath. In fact, there is a substantial amount of oxygen in the air we breathe out.
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We don't need anywhere near that amount of O2 in the atmosphere to breath. In fact, there is a substantial amount of oxygen in the air we breathe out.
Sound great, the only problem is the oxygen...
As we know the Mars atmosphere have 95.97% carbon dioxide, that mean the human will need a way to get 02 from C02, or will need some great filters and bumps to filter the small percentage of O2 from the atmosphere (0.146% oxygen). We need to get 20.95% (O2) at last to live.
There isn't a problem with getting O2, there is a lot of it in the dirt, and in the water deposits. As we know the Mars atmosphere have 95.97% carbon dioxide, that mean the human will need a way to get 02 from C02, or will need some great filters and bumps to filter the small percentage of O2 from the atmosphere (0.146% oxygen). We need to get 20.95% (O2) at last to live.
There are hundreds of problems and issues, but getting O2 is one that can easily be solved.
When and if these guys state they intend to land a nuclear reactor on Mars for power for their teams, then I'd take them seriously. Because otherwise they'll have difficulty showing where the power will come from to keep everyone at a livable temperature, and to do the needed chemical extractions such as for 02.
Sound great, the only problem is the oxygen...
As we know the Mars atmosphere have 95.97% carbon dioxide, that mean the human will need a way to get 02 from C02, or will need some great filters and bumps to filter the small percentage of O2 from the atmosphere (0.146% oxygen). We need to get 20.95% (O2) at last to live.
As we know the Mars atmosphere have 95.97% carbon dioxide, that mean the human will need a way to get 02 from C02, or will need some great filters and bumps to filter the small percentage of O2 from the atmosphere (0.146% oxygen). We need to get 20.95% (O2) at last to live.
Sounds cool, but what matters to me is the state of Bitcoin in 2025. I hope that by then we are all retired due holding Bitcoin for 10+ years and can see the show nicely on our sofas without having to go to work. If im still working by 2025 and Bitcoin hasn't retired me i'll probably jump off a bridge or something.
ps: Joking (I hope)
ps: Joking (I hope)
Isn't Mars One a scam?
https://medium.com/matter/mars-one-insider-quits-dangerously-flawed-project-2dfef95217d3
This comedian made a funny video for the application and she was approved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j59NyrhiDiA
https://medium.com/matter/mars-one-insider-quits-dangerously-flawed-project-2dfef95217d3
This comedian made a funny video for the application and she was approved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j59NyrhiDiA
Wow it looks to me as a ponzi scheme with the "point" system and the "75% of profits donate back to us".
Looks like scammers find very innovative ways to scam people.
http://www.thephoenixnews.com/2015/03/news-briefs-two-calgary-men-found-guilty-of-running-largest-ponzi-scheme-in-canadian-history-mars-one-group-announces-last-100-candidates-for-mission-to-mars/
2025
China will have barely won the world war that devastates the earth. Martian colonists are on their own.
China will have barely won the world war that devastates the earth. Martian colonists are on their own.
that seems to be so expensive that it's realization doesn't seem probable. There'll always be something more important for the goverment. Although it does sound great
Your repeated assertion of trivializing the cost by comparison with war is a logical fallacy, as well as off topic. It is incorrect to assert that "we have the technology" to put a self supporting colony on Mars. We do not.
Yes, comparing anything is a logical fallacy. 
People seem to use these words lightly around here these days (there is no contradiction). I was not talking about a fully self supported colony, I was talking about getting there (i.e. flying to Mars multiple times). Read:In the 1950s there were enthusiastic reports of how a space station could be put up and it would be self substaining, growing it's own food. How far have we gotten toward that (apparently) simple goal?
How much has been invested to achieve that goal? Less and less money (e.g. NASA budget cuts). It seems simple, however it is not.Saying "we can get there" is NOT the same as establishing a colony.
Check Zubrin, "Mars Direct."
Mars is out of the picture. Why? Because most of what has been invested in space, has been invested in war technology, which will destroy us all long before we get to Mars.
Your repeated assertion of trivializing the cost by comparison with war is a logical fallacy, as well as off topic. It is incorrect to assert that "we have the technology" to put a self supporting colony on Mars. We do not.
Yes, comparing anything is a logical fallacy. People seem to use these words lightly around here these days (there is no contradiction). I was not talking about a fully self supported colony, I was talking about getting there (i.e. flying to Mars multiple times). Read:In the 1950s there were enthusiastic reports of how a space station could be put up and it would be self substaining, growing it's own food. How far have we gotten toward that (apparently) simple goal?
How much has been invested to achieve that goal? Less and less money (e.g. NASA budget cuts). It seems simple, however it is not.Saying "we can get there" is NOT the same as establishing a colony.
Check Zubrin, "Mars Direct."
Your repeated assertion of trivializing the cost by comparison with war is a logical fallacy, as well as off topic. It is incorrect to assert that "we have the technology" to put a self supporting colony on Mars. We do not.
Yes, comparing anything is a logical fallacy. People seem to use these words lightly around here these days (there is no contradiction). I was not talking about a fully self supported colony, I was talking about getting there (i.e. flying to Mars multiple times). Read:In the 1950s there were enthusiastic reports of how a space station could be put up and it would be self substaining, growing it's own food. How far have we gotten toward that (apparently) simple goal?
How much has been invested to achieve that goal? Less and less money (e.g. NASA budget cuts). It seems simple, however it is not. Thanks a lot for the Schedule. I really wish them Best of Luck!!. I think NASA will definitely meet all the deadlines bez they have very talented people. Thanks
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Mars One is a nonprofit organization based in the Netherlands that has proposed to land the first humans on Mars and establish a permanent human colony there by 2027. The private spaceflight project is led by Dutch entrepreneur Bas Lansdorp, who announced the Mars One project in May 2012.
It looks like their budget is only $7B which is peanuts compared to how much countries are wasting in random wars around the world. Your repeated assertion of trivializing the cost by comparison with war is a logical fallacy, as well as off topic. It is incorrect to assert that "we have the technology" to put a self supporting colony on Mars. We do not.
In the 1950s there were enthusiastic reports of how a space station could be put up and it would be self substaining, growing it's own food. How far have we gotten toward that (apparently) simple goal?
Thanks a lot for the Schedule. I really wish them Best of Luck!!. I think NASA will definitely meet all the deadlines bez they have very talented people. Thanks
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Mars One is a nonprofit organization based in the Netherlands that has proposed to land the first humans on Mars and establish a permanent human colony there by 2027. The private spaceflight project is led by Dutch entrepreneur Bas Lansdorp, who announced the Mars One project in May 2012.
It looks like their budget is only $7B which is peanuts compared to how much countries are wasting in random wars around the world.
Thanks a lot for the Schedule. I really wish them Best of Luck!!. I think NASA will definitely meet all the deadlines bez they have very talented people. Thanks
Seems like it might be a better idea to colonise cold and warm parts of the earth + work on living on sea plus underground. Then there is also working on building upwards. Long time before with are able to live on mars imo.
You're partially right. However, humanity does not like saving the Earth or working to prolong the environment of certain places. Humanity likes to destroy for their own amusement. Mars is a very good candidate for a colony. However, the problem isn't really the technology right now (we can get there), the problem is money. Obviously the US (as a example) could easily fund it considering their unnecessary defense budget. For a company and a unknown CEO this is really problematic. A lot of money is needed, money that is hard to come by.Isn't Mars One a scam?
https://medium.com/matter/mars-one-insider-quits-dangerously-flawed-project-2dfef95217d3
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Well technically just because the plan is flawed, that doesn't make it a scam. However, from the research being done in regards to it, it seems highly unlikely that it will launch/succeed. https://medium.com/matter/mars-one-insider-quits-dangerously-flawed-project-2dfef95217d3
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Second mars has a weak magnetic field, unlike earth being protected by its huge magnetic field. mars has a very small and weak one.
having a magnetic field protects us from solar flares and solar radiation sun produces. and when mars got hit by a solar radiation even with
the most advance protection agains radiation we have it will be useless resulting to instant death.
Doesn't Mars have some areas that are better protected than others? I think the idea was that they were going to use one of those to settle in since it provided adequate protection.
Even if there are it won't d any good if its in the surface.and if your tal,king about digging underground it will take time. Thus they'll need more funding which they will not have. And it will take more than a decade to just to send one rover that will be able to dig underground. But still I'm looking forward if they will be able to set a colony on mars.
REASON NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE IT IS A FUCKING CRASH PROJECT. They delayed their timeline, killed their own hype and then people say the seats were sold. What's the whole point of sending the most qualified first civilization to populate mars then? Same genes which feel they can buy everything with money. Sadly, they'd be right...
They delayed their timeline because expansion of the project base, though. And I think the seats weren't sold, but traded for something better than money. The CEO says that the plan will be bigger, better and smoother than before. All it will take is some time. Bullshit, I say. Another 'technical delay' coming soon. Meanwhile, the hype dies.
They're only delaying it because it's a scam and they have no intention of going to mars. It's not even feasible at all. Even NASA would struggle to get the funding for this.
You may think getting and living on mars is dream come true. thinks again.
First mars has a thin atmosphere so mars has a very weak agains meteorites and asteroids.
Second mars has a weak magnetic field, unlike earth being protected by its huge magnetic field. mars has a very small and weak one.
having a magnetic field protects us from solar flares and solar radiation sun produces. and when mars got hit by a solar radiation even with
the most advance protection agains radiation we have it will be useless resulting to instant death.
Third is the gravity, sure mars has a weak gravitational force but be warned. because of it your body will try and adopt to the new enviroment.
your bones will weaken then your body will start to change. i know it sounds like a science fiction but our body adopt to new inviroments.
im sure you`ll learn a lot but learning what your going to face outside earth and go the unknown and deathtrap place i`ll be happy staying here.
hearing they`re progress. and if they`re expedition is successful and manage to return to earth or not they`ll be known as a heroes.
on the science industry and to those who are eager to learn about this universe. It is scary but to them its worth a risk.
First mars has a thin atmosphere so mars has a very weak agains meteorites and asteroids.
Second mars has a weak magnetic field, unlike earth being protected by its huge magnetic field. mars has a very small and weak one.
having a magnetic field protects us from solar flares and solar radiation sun produces. and when mars got hit by a solar radiation even with
the most advance protection agains radiation we have it will be useless resulting to instant death.
Third is the gravity, sure mars has a weak gravitational force but be warned. because of it your body will try and adopt to the new enviroment.
your bones will weaken then your body will start to change. i know it sounds like a science fiction but our body adopt to new inviroments.
im sure you`ll learn a lot but learning what your going to face outside earth and go the unknown and deathtrap place i`ll be happy staying here.
hearing they`re progress. and if they`re expedition is successful and manage to return to earth or not they`ll be known as a heroes.
on the science industry and to those who are eager to learn about this universe. It is scary but to them its worth a risk.
Seems like it might be a better idea to colonise cold and warm parts of the earth + work on living on sea plus underground. Then there is also working on building upwards. Long time before with are able to live on mars imo.
Second mars has a weak magnetic field, unlike earth being protected by its huge magnetic field. mars has a very small and weak one.
having a magnetic field protects us from solar flares and solar radiation sun produces. and when mars got hit by a solar radiation even with
the most advance protection agains radiation we have it will be useless resulting to instant death.
Doesn't Mars have some areas that are better protected than others? I think the idea was that they were going to use one of those to settle in since it provided adequate protection.
You may think getting and living on mars is dream come true. thinks again.
First mars has a thin atmosphere so mars has a very weak agains meteorites and asteroids.
Second mars has a weak magnetic field, unlike earth being protected by its huge magnetic field. mars has a very small and weak one.
having a magnetic field protects us from solar flares and solar radiation sun produces. and when mars got hit by a solar radiation even with
the most advance protection agains radiation we have it will be useless resulting to instant death.
Third is the gravity, sure mars has a weak gravitational force but be warned. because of it your body will try and adopt to the new enviroment.
your bones will weaken then your body will start to change. i know it sounds like a science fiction but our body adopt to new inviroments.
im sure you`ll learn a lot but learning what your going to face outside earth and go the unknown and deathtrap place i`ll be happy staying here.
hearing they`re progress. and if they`re expedition is successful and manage to return to earth or not they`ll be known as a heroes.
on the science industry and to those who are eager to learn about this universe. It is scary but to them its worth a risk.
First mars has a thin atmosphere so mars has a very weak agains meteorites and asteroids.
Second mars has a weak magnetic field, unlike earth being protected by its huge magnetic field. mars has a very small and weak one.
having a magnetic field protects us from solar flares and solar radiation sun produces. and when mars got hit by a solar radiation even with
the most advance protection agains radiation we have it will be useless resulting to instant death.
Third is the gravity, sure mars has a weak gravitational force but be warned. because of it your body will try and adopt to the new enviroment.
your bones will weaken then your body will start to change. i know it sounds like a science fiction but our body adopt to new inviroments.
im sure you`ll learn a lot but learning what your going to face outside earth and go the unknown and deathtrap place i`ll be happy staying here.
hearing they`re progress. and if they`re expedition is successful and manage to return to earth or not they`ll be known as a heroes.
on the science industry and to those who are eager to learn about this universe. It is scary but to them its worth a risk.
REASON NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE IT IS A FUCKING CRASH PROJECT. They delayed their timeline, killed their own hype and then people say the seats were sold. What's the whole point of sending the most qualified first civilization to populate mars then? Same genes which feel they can buy everything with money. Sadly, they'd be right...
They delayed their timeline because expansion of the project base, though. And I think the seats weren't sold, but traded for something better than money. The CEO says that the plan will be bigger, better and smoother than before. All it will take is some time. Bullshit, I say. Another 'technical delay' coming soon. Meanwhile, the hype dies.
What is something better than money on earth right now? The technical delays have already happened so i dont really think it might happen again, and if the hype was dead, they wouldn't manage to still be in the news. They somehow seem to be doing really well, and are well funded too.
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