Topic: Martin Armstrong Discussion - page 352. (Read 647070 times)

2015.75 - 309.6 = 1706.15.

Let's see what happened during the pivotal, rare year 1706:

http://www.hisdates.com/years/1706-historical-events.html

Crap. Nothing happened.

So much for Martin Armstrong's cyclical analysis.

can you laymans term this for me =W= please ty

Armstrong hits again today with an explanation of "The End of Government" prediction of his by October 1st. I won't lie, I'm eager to see how this evolves...



Those calling for the end of the world and a 1929 type depression are only looking at the charts. They are clueless as to how everything else is setting up. Nothing is in line for such an event. Keep in mind that event created big government and socialism. This time government is in crash mode, not the private sector. Politicians will do the jumping this time. If the stock market crashed, capital would then run into bonds. Just how low do you think interest rates would go — negative 20%? Come on. This is a 5000-year low in interest rates so we will have to flip out to the upside. There is no choice in this regard.

A very nice write-up on MA:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/10/12/the-secret-cycle

Made me wonder.

Why does the government HAVE to be so stupid and screw things up for everyone? This is worse news than I thought.

So, the prediction is things will be worse than '08-'09 and won't recover post '20? I thought the phase transition would not be until 2032.95 (see image) with lows first around 2020 (recession)?

Understood and I summarized that actually. My point is to be more clear because readers can misinterpret. They think "top" means top of everything everywhere.

No, I haven't read all your posts though I am reading most of them with interest, but I thought the question was about the top of US and other western markets, so that's why I said that Armstrong is not expecting the top at 2015.75 in the US market. I answered to the question exactly same what you are saying that according to Armstrong the top will be around 2017 in the US market.

You haven't read my posts carefully. How many times I have explained that the top outside the USA is 2015.75. That is also the top in sovereign bonds.

As the rest of the world is collapsing after October (not instantly but contagion spreading throughout 2016) and short the dollar (due to dollar debt abroad due to QE carry trade), this will drive international capital stampeding into the US dollar and US stocks for one last bubble to peak in 2017. After that, the USA will join the rest of the world into collapse and from 2018 - 2020 will be utter chaos.

Asia bottoms in 2020, but the West will continue going down for decades.

I think he never said the top will be in 2015.75. According to Armstrong the top will be later, but until we get to the top (maximum 30,000 but most likely a lower figure) around 2017 there will be a volatile market with lots of ups and downs.

You want sound bites instead of actually studying in detail that is why you misunderstand.

We have explained many times that the model is the contagion outside the USA starts to accelerate as of Oct 1.

This will cause stampede of capital into the USA, with rising dollar and interest rates in the USA, while the rest of the world falls off the cliff. By 2017.9, this will force the USA over the cliff.

By 2018, we'll in the global contagion hell (USA was the final straw holding up the global economy) yet by 2020 Asia will bottom. Yet the West will continue to collapse. As some point a political axis power-sharing global monetary reset into a NWO one-world reserve currency (by 2032 at the latest), and then we'll see some tenuous global stability, but that political morass will be a parasite that must die. And the West will continue to decline in relative networth for decades. The strong dollar and rising interest rates (as well the prior dollar QE caused via ZIRP carry trade the $9 trillion dollar-short debt in the developing world) while rest of the world collapses will be one of the political justifications for the one-world reserve currency. Also it will be Asia's rising relative networth after 2020.

A radical change to the world begins in earnest this Oct. 1. It is a decades long turbulence.

This is a 309.6 year confluence of cycles event (Civilization change cycle, Public/Private cycle, War Cycle, Pandemic Cycle, etc). Very rare. Happened only a few times in recorded history of the world.

Hi all,

Can anyone lay out Armstrong's broad stock market predictions for the next 5 years for those who haven't yet read every post and article?

If I am understanding correctly, he's predicting the top at 2015.75~ and then a recession/downward trend to 2020~?

Over the weekend, The Financial Times reported that Beijing would abandon its large-scale share purchases. This story sparked declines in China’s A-listed shares, although the Shanghai Composite pared losses to close 0.8 percent down. Then there is Jackson Hole and how amazingly stupid people are who do not understand what the Fed has been saying that they must get back to “normalization” of interest rates. These people, who pretend to be pundits in the know, continue to talk about unemployment, jobs, and inflation as if the Fed was still guided by Keynesian economics. The Fed is trapped and has lost all ability to return to Keynesian economics unless it raises interest rates to “normal” levels. We have a massive debt crisis coming from the state, municipalities, and pension funds. They all needed “normal” interest rates to survive.