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Topic: Master-P SCAMMER. I lost complete faith in this forum now. - page 64. (Read 80701 times)

legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1014
This will really affect the trusted persons and escrows of this forum. Bcoz of this types of members, other peoples who wants to use the middleman, will think alot while doing any deal with other escrows or will not trust other too .
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
Doesn't make sense somehow. I have used master-P under different nicks for years and not only is he utterly professional, almost  and security aware, but also seems like a really nice guy.

Why would he scam and lose every creditability built up for a few BTC? The only reason I can see it if he have plans leaving the BTC arena, but I'm pretty sure he could get much more money out of it (only just in my own add (sig/promo), he could make make more out of that.

However, people can change, but I still have my doubts.

Whatever is the truth, it's a said.  Sad
legendary
Activity: 1268
Merit: 1009

Not escrowing is not a solution either.When we can't trust escrow,there is no reason to trust campaign managers either.We should find a way in between.I have few suggestions,will post them at proper section

Good point here. I think, from now on, the campaign manager, the escrow provider as well as the owner of that site should start storing funds in a multi-sig wallet where if anyone goes AWOL, two others can simply approve themselves and send the funds out to the participants. Although it's a tedious process, it'll possibly be the perfect process for running a secure signature campaign.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
From what I read I don't understand you guys.

If everything is true, previous Master-P dox might be released and... So what?
You're going on a vengeful crusade against him? Gonna threaten him and all? You do realize that none of your threats are going to make your btc back.

I don't see why you're threatening Master-P (the old one), as he has no longer the funds. He's a scammer but it won't help you in any way to know where he lives is it?

Lets assume for the sake of argument he is telling the truth. He is still 100% responsible and legally liable for the damages caused himself. Now back to reality, many of the things in his story don't add up. Chances are the account never changed hands and Master-P (the original and only) was always in control of it. Either way he is 100% directly liable. If he was hacked or something I would be looking at this differently, but he admitted to selling the account putting everyone trading with his username at risk for his own personal profit.
full member
Activity: 756
Merit: 100
From what I read I don't understand you guys.

If everything is true, previous Master-P dox might be released and... So what?
You're going on a vengeful crusade against him? Gonna threaten him and all? You do realize that none of your threats are going to make your btc back.

I don't see why you're threatening Master-P (the old one), as he has no longer the funds. He's a scammer but it won't help you in any way to know where he lives is it?
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
Hopefully the threat of a dox will get people their BTC back before the dox actually happens.

Most people in their right mind don't want their personal information all over the internet associated with a scam.

I'm still in shock about this whole situation Sad.

I just wanted to make a note, that if all the funds are returned I promise to keep these dox private. This agreement would of course be void if you continue to trade and you are spotted building up rep on a new account. At this point they have not been released, but there have been inquiries regarding them.

Yes that's good, hopefully master-p or the 'new' account holder return the BTC so the dox doesn't have to happen.

Regardless of what now happens the master-p account is worthless and so is his reputation.

P.S. This is an offer with an expiration date. It expires when someone makes me a reasonable offer on your dox, when you return the Bitcoin, or when I get bored with this. You pick which.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1077
I think master-p and/or the new account owner are doing some serious thinking right now and wondering if the hell that's about to be unleashed on them is actually worth what they could steal.
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
Anyone who sells an account with a lot of trust or that is an escrow is a scammer. Why would anyone buy an account like his other than to scam? Escrowing is a pain to deal with and most of the time you do not make much in tips.

He is escrowing alot signature campaigns and Im sure he get atleast 5 % from what he is sending to the signature participants. It may not be much but if he keeps on doing this and keepings funds for signature campaigns then he will sooner or later gets more then he scammed right now
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
I see many people complaining about this. Don't worry guys, this is just the free market weeding out bad actors. Your bitcoins are not at the hands of the stronger and more worthy. Natural selection and free market economics for the win.
hero member
Activity: 1064
Merit: 502
* Buying Bitcoin *
OK so an escrow sold his account and the new owner already scammed users of over 7-8 BTC? This is the end of my trust on escrows and never will I ever use an escrow on this forum no matter if lose any deals due to this. I have totally given up on this forum trust and now would never trust anyone out here as the earlier owners must have sold their accounts. It's sick.

I just hope that DT members do leave ratings now on all users who sell their accounts or are involved in trading accounts. Do we need more proof of what harm it causes users out here by selling accounts?

I raised exactly similar question in my meta thread here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-it-possible-to-recognize-that-someone-is-using-2nd-hand-account-1301778 but guess I am too small to be noted by this community here.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
Act #Neutral,Think y'self as a citizen of Universe
Anyone who sells an account with a lot of trust or that is an escrow is a scammer. Why would anyone buy an account like his other than to scam? Escrowing is a pain to deal with and most of the time you do not make much in tips.
None of his escrow services were for free and he even started charging for account sales lately.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1119
Anyone who sells an account with a lot of trust or that is an escrow is a scammer. Why would anyone buy an account like his other than to scam? Escrowing is a pain to deal with and most of the time you do not make much in tips.
sr. member
Activity: 278
Merit: 250
I think that master-p needs to address this issue asap and provide as much information about the trade itself and the buyer to clear his name otherwise I'm afraid to say this looks more likely that master-p has turned into a scammer and that the account was never sold.

master-p you need to prove your innocence!


How can he prove his innocence ? he clearly gave space for the consequences to happen.Though I strongly believe that he is the one who scammed.

Im starting to believe that too. I think he planned this all and said he sold his account but really he just said that to try and detach himself from the account so he can scam with it.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
Act #Neutral,Think y'self as a citizen of Universe
I think that master-p needs to address this issue asap and provide as much information about the trade itself and the buyer to clear his name otherwise I'm afraid to say this looks more likely that master-p has turned into a scammer and that the account was never sold.

master-p you need to prove your innocence!


How can he prove his innocence ? he clearly gave space for the consequences to happen.Though I strongly believe that he is the one who scammed.
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
so his account was sold? what a waste.
i guess there is no way to prevent such if a highly trusted member sold his account and cause scam

There is no way at all. If the user got bored , find another things to do and decided to leave the forum then selling the account for some extra btc will be a nice things to do. Sadly that it is very easy to scam with all these highly trusted account

and here I am at signature campaign which funds was hold by master P so yeah Its kinda bummer but nothing can be done Smiley

IMO - we can live without any escrows. Forum has nothing to do with it.


Only if you are having a deal with a trusted person, otherwise both party will not want to send first
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1199
I'm really sorry to read those sad information about Master-p.

This is the reason why I will never use an escrow. As I remember I was in need to use an escrow service only maybe like two times, as my customer forced me to do so Smiley

BTW. Why you would trust any escrow more than a man who work for you?  Just because he's an 'Escrow'? Smiley


Quote from: OP
I lost complete faith in this forum now.
IMO, we can live without any escrows. Forum has nothing to do with it.
 


Best regards.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1077
I think that master-p needs to address this issue asap and provide as much information about the trade itself and the buyer to clear his name otherwise I'm afraid to say this looks more likely that master-p has turned into a scammer and that the account was never sold.

master-p you need to prove your innocence!

legendary
Activity: 2282
Merit: 1041
so his account was sold? what a waste.
i guess there is no way to prevent such if a highly trusted member sold his account and cause scam
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
Seems the buyer turned a very nice roi on this scam.  Angry
There should be some rules put in place that forbids the selling of high ranking or green trust accounts.
It's a shame.
 Sad

Even if the forums banned account selling, some people will keep on selling accounts by doing it privately. Banning the account sale will only make it going underground and make it harder to track so it is not really worth it although account sale is totally discouraged here
sr. member
Activity: 278
Merit: 250
I must have missed that, how much was the account sold for?
A measly 2 BTC

Seems the buyer turned a very nice roi on this scam.  Angry
There should be some rules put in place that forbids the selling of high ranking or green trust accounts.
It's a shame.
 Sad
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