Topic: mdayonliner - page 2. (Read 843 times)
OP, you're complaining about untrusted feedback... there is nothing to blackmail you with.
The third post, aka poisoning the well, is unnecessary and actually makes your case weaker.
Point taken - I removed the third post.
You might removed it but FYI I am closely watching all your activities since you have started accusing me with all these harsh words: scammers and blackmailers, hypocritical, blackmailed and scammed, blackmailing spam clown, extortion / blackmail, muppet. You have nothing to prove against me mate.
You are just a big mouth.
1. Economy / Scam Accusations / Medic coin fraudulent scam attempt by people claiming to be part of their team on: April 04, 2018
2. You think I am (?) which is today
3. Economy / Scam Accusations / icenter is a scam ( icenter.co ) again today.
Anyway, I will reply with everything when it's right time.
It is hard to believe that someone who is such a serial poster (little content - lots of posts) only made an account on Bitcointalk in December 2017
There is bound to be a couple of "alts". He has clearly been into crypto much longer (according to his linked social media & with multiple alt facebook accounts)
These are the ones I easily found:
https://www.facebook.com/masudul.kabir.96
https://www.facebook.com/mrnh2011
https://www.facebook.com/masumeva
- I take pride of this statement by the way.There is bound to be a couple of "alts". He has clearly been into crypto much longer (according to his linked social media & with multiple alt facebook accounts)
These are the ones I easily found:
https://www.facebook.com/masudul.kabir.96
https://www.facebook.com/mrnh2011
https://www.facebook.com/masumeva
I will hear feedback from the community in here first. Talking to you is waste of my time.
Proof of feedback extortion / blackmail
Stop using these two words every time someone gives you a timeline to correct something. Neither word is applicable here. Overly-sensitive humans. 
-snip-
Timeline is irrelevant. "I will give you 24 hours of time to admit your mistake on my trust removal topic ." Is not a satisfactory solution.
The third post, aka poisoning the well, is unnecessary and actually makes your case weaker.
Point taken - I removed the third post.
Proof of feedback extortion / blackmail
Stop using these two words every time someone gives you a timeline to correct something. Neither word is applicable here. Overly-sensitive humans. -snip-
The third post, aka poisoning the well, is unnecessary and actually makes your case weaker.
EDITED FOR UPDATES: origional can be viewed here: topic=4019640.msg38050208%23msg38050208">https://web.archive.org/web/20180522114952/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4019640.msg38050208%23msg38050208
This topic has been moved to [META].
Started as scam thread but it is an issue of conduct rather than scam.
The ponzi promotion accusation has been moved here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--4221113
TITLE was updated to sound less dramatic and reflect the changed and new content.
The word blackmail has been substituted with ultimatum for reduced dramatic effect.
Please note: These are accusations - not conclusions.
What happened: Looking at my feedback I found that I had been tagged for "Merit abuse" by a nobody that runs various threads promoting himself and (in my opinion) trolling others. Didn't concern me much except when I discovered that his ultimatum is concerning some users.
He gives them an ultimatum that if they give him neutral feedback and if they admit they "merit abused" he will remove his negative feedback.
While I don't care about receiving "merit" from the system or the "untrusted feedback" he has given me - it concerns me that someone without any bitcointalk official position is issuing ultimatums to users.
Members profile: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mdayonliner-1432468
Reference Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mdayonliners-red-trust-removal-tc-update-3186068 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/done-with-the-topic-new-format-merit-abuser-gang-now-18-1-cases-3168616
https://web.archive.org/web/20180520032404/https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mdayonliners-red-trust-removal-tc-update-3186068
https://web.archive.org/save/https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/done-with-the-topic-new-format-merit-abuser-gang-now-18-1-cases-3168616
https://web.archive.org/save/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.20
https://web.archive.org/save/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.40
https://web.archive.org/web/2/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.60
Issue: Feedback ultimatum
In my case - in my opinion - the merits were given in accordance to the rules: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/faq-everything-you-need-to-know-about-forum-activity-account-ranks-and-merit-2766177
The issues can be seen here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/discussion-needed-xtraelv-and-lafu-activities-4031390
There are many others that aren't even aware that a merit system exists or choose to not use it. I don't (and many others) care about the rank system.
There are long periods of time where I don't visit bitcointalk.
A legendary account can easily be bought https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2-legendary-accounts-for-sale-3016335 (amongst all the other account sales on bitcointalk - but that is another can of worms)
Proof people have been negatively affected by the "shoot first - ask questions later (or not at all) "ultimatums" :
So, to avoid red trust on my account from the merit abusers those I have tagged and will be tagging in future also from some moral perspective (e.i 1, e.i 2) I have end up with this decision that I will remove your Red Trust as merit abuser if you accept following six (6) conditions1 in two part.
Part one: Post on the comment section of this threa
1. YOUR USERNAME <= Do not remove the glow and large font code
2. Admit that you have abused the merit system: Yes/No
3. You apology in public on this tread: Your apology content has to be at-least 120 character long.
4. Commit that you will never do this again: Yes/No
Once you done posting the comment then do the following...
Part two:
5. You will send a neutral trust for me referencing the link of your apology post.
6. On the neutral trust you will write: "I am leaving this neutral to keep a record of my merit abusing so that in future if I do the same abusive behaviour and receive red trust from mdayonliner then I will not complain again."
Now edit the same apology post and mention "Done with 5 and 6"
A sample of an apology post
Once I verify you done everything correctly then I will give you a neutral trust for having a log for me on the my trust page for you so that I can review your profile in future whenever I want and finally I will remove your red trust to give you a second chance.
1 Lucky you. If I were a DT or staff or even high ranked member then I would never give you this second chance. I need to save my own ass.
I find this quote quite revealing:
Why do I care ? I don't feel that it benefits the forum. Bitcointalk has a reputation of being an abusive (even encouraged and merited ) , largely unmoderated place where scams are promoted, KYC accounts sold, people voice their grievances and has a large volume of low quality posts.
There are far more serious issues in this forum that are ignored.
Only the most serious and proven deliberate merit abuse should be dealt with in this way.
When people apply strict rules to strangers they should apply those same rules to themselves and those close to them.
In this case in my opinion is being highly hypocritical. There are a number of accusations that have been made that have just been ignored here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.37774968
Mdayonliner is not a DT so many people just laugh it off because his feedback is harmless. It doesn't mean that the conduct is acceptable. It just means that it is of little consequence.
The method of the ultimatum can be seen here:
- Seriously(!) Be my guest my friend. I will give you 24 hours of time to admit your mistake on my red trust removal topic or I will bring this issue in public and will take feedback from the community. You think I care about your red turst? The reason I will bring the issue in public to prove that I my ground is right and yours is wrong.
Anyway 24 hours (click for countdown) to admit your mistake or I will ask feedback from the community since I need to prove my ground is right to the community.
FAQ: Everything you need to know about forum 'activity, account ranks and merit https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/faq-everything-you-need-to-know-about-forum-activity-account-ranks-and-merit-2766177
KEYWORD: Everything
Here there is evidence that there is "merit abuse" by his alt account or "brother"
Edited https://i.imgur.com/Jnge3sr.png / replaced previous image with error
Most merit obtained from posting in threads with "merit" as the subject. (I probably even missed a few)
It is clear to me and others that "merit" is extremely important to you and that it is the motivation for some of your conduct.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.38101744
The red is where merit was given and received from the same users or KNOWN alts / family.
Why do I care ? - normally I wouldn't.
But I am holding you to the standard that you are applying to others.
Do I think you exchanged feedback ? - yes I do. Not just with your brother. Just check the matching dates.
Do I think you merit farm ? Yes - by deliberately posting in lots of merit related topics.
I've given you the same replies you give others. HERE
It made you really angry and you haven't answered the accusations.
Why am I doing this ? To point out the hypocracy of your actions.
(Not to accuse other users)
This topic has been moved to [META].
Started as scam thread but it is an issue of conduct rather than scam.
The ponzi promotion accusation has been moved here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--4221113
TITLE was updated to sound less dramatic and reflect the changed and new content.
The word blackmail has been substituted with ultimatum for reduced dramatic effect.
Please note: These are accusations - not conclusions.
What happened: Looking at my feedback I found that I had been tagged for "Merit abuse" by a nobody that runs various threads promoting himself and (in my opinion) trolling others. Didn't concern me much except when I discovered that his ultimatum is concerning some users.
He gives them an ultimatum that if they give him neutral feedback and if they admit they "merit abused" he will remove his negative feedback.
While I don't care about receiving "merit" from the system or the "untrusted feedback" he has given me - it concerns me that someone without any bitcointalk official position is issuing ultimatums to users.
Members profile: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mdayonliner-1432468
Reference Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mdayonliners-red-trust-removal-tc-update-3186068 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/done-with-the-topic-new-format-merit-abuser-gang-now-18-1-cases-3168616
https://web.archive.org/web/20180520032404/https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mdayonliners-red-trust-removal-tc-update-3186068
https://web.archive.org/save/https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/done-with-the-topic-new-format-merit-abuser-gang-now-18-1-cases-3168616
https://web.archive.org/save/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.20
https://web.archive.org/save/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.40
https://web.archive.org/web/2/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.60
Issue: Feedback ultimatum
In my case - in my opinion - the merits were given in accordance to the rules: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/faq-everything-you-need-to-know-about-forum-activity-account-ranks-and-merit-2766177
The issues can be seen here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/discussion-needed-xtraelv-and-lafu-activities-4031390
There are many others that aren't even aware that a merit system exists or choose to not use it. I don't (and many others) care about the rank system.
There are long periods of time where I don't visit bitcointalk.
A legendary account can easily be bought https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2-legendary-accounts-for-sale-3016335 (amongst all the other account sales on bitcointalk - but that is another can of worms)
Proof people have been negatively affected by the "shoot first - ask questions later (or not at all) "ultimatums" :
So, to avoid red trust on my account from the merit abusers those I have tagged and will be tagging in future also from some moral perspective (e.i 1, e.i 2) I have end up with this decision that I will remove your Red Trust as merit abuser if you accept following six (6) conditions1 in two part.
Part one: Post on the comment section of this threa
1. YOUR USERNAME <= Do not remove the glow and large font code
2. Admit that you have abused the merit system: Yes/No
3. You apology in public on this tread: Your apology content has to be at-least 120 character long.
4. Commit that you will never do this again: Yes/No
Once you done posting the comment then do the following...
Part two:
5. You will send a neutral trust for me referencing the link of your apology post.
6. On the neutral trust you will write: "I am leaving this neutral to keep a record of my merit abusing so that in future if I do the same abusive behaviour and receive red trust from mdayonliner then I will not complain again."
Now edit the same apology post and mention "Done with 5 and 6"
A sample of an apology post
Code:
1. [glow=red,2,300][b][size=15pt]YOUR USERNAME[/size][/b][/glow]
2. Admit that you have abused the merit system: Yes
3. You apology in public on this tread: [b]"The minimum 120 character apology content" [/b]
4. Commit that you will never do this again: Yes
Edit:
Done with 5 and 6
2. Admit that you have abused the merit system: Yes
3. You apology in public on this tread: [b]"The minimum 120 character apology content" [/b]
4. Commit that you will never do this again: Yes
Edit:
Done with 5 and 6
Once I verify you done everything correctly then I will give you a neutral trust for having a log for me on the my trust page for you so that I can review your profile in future whenever I want and finally I will remove your red trust to give you a second chance.
1 Lucky you. If I were a DT or staff or even high ranked member then I would never give you this second chance. I need to save my own ass.
I find this quote quite revealing:
1 Lucky you. If I were a DT or staff or even high ranked member then I would never give you this second chance. I need to save my own ass.
Why do I care ? I don't feel that it benefits the forum. Bitcointalk has a reputation of being an abusive (even encouraged and merited ) , largely unmoderated place where scams are promoted, KYC accounts sold, people voice their grievances and has a large volume of low quality posts.
There are far more serious issues in this forum that are ignored.
Only the most serious and proven deliberate merit abuse should be dealt with in this way.
When people apply strict rules to strangers they should apply those same rules to themselves and those close to them.
In this case in my opinion is being highly hypocritical. There are a number of accusations that have been made that have just been ignored here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.37774968
Mdayonliner is not a DT so many people just laugh it off because his feedback is harmless. It doesn't mean that the conduct is acceptable. It just means that it is of little consequence.
The method of the ultimatum can be seen here:
- Seriously(!) Be my guest my friend. I will give you 24 hours of time to admit your mistake on my red trust removal topic or I will bring this issue in public and will take feedback from the community. You think I care about your red turst? The reason I will bring the issue in public to prove that I my ground is right and yours is wrong.
Anyway 24 hours (click for countdown) to admit your mistake or I will ask feedback from the community since I need to prove my ground is right to the community.
FAQ: Everything you need to know about forum 'activity, account ranks and merit https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/faq-everything-you-need-to-know-about-forum-activity-account-ranks-and-merit-2766177
KEYWORD: Everything
Quote
Here there is evidence that there is "merit abuse" by his alt account or "brother"
Edited https://i.imgur.com/Jnge3sr.png / replaced previous image with error
Most merit obtained from posting in threads with "merit" as the subject. (I probably even missed a few)
It is clear to me and others that "merit" is extremely important to you and that it is the motivation for some of your conduct.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.38101744
The red is where merit was given and received from the same users or KNOWN alts / family.
Why do I care ? - normally I wouldn't.
But I am holding you to the standard that you are applying to others.
Do I think you exchanged feedback ? - yes I do. Not just with your brother. Just check the matching dates.
Do I think you merit farm ? Yes - by deliberately posting in lots of merit related topics.
I've given you the same replies you give others. HERE
It made you really angry and you haven't answered the accusations.
Why am I doing this ? To point out the hypocracy of your actions.
(Not to accuse other users)
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