Topic: MEMBERS OF ETHEREUM TO RETURN ETC TO DAO INVESTORS PETITION - page 4. (Read 8001 times)
It has all to do with it you dumbass, because DAO was like a hedge fund, but with NO insurance, no one guaranteed for the investment's safety as in, like " if something bad happens we'll give you our own money " . And the hardfork was only viable because of the 1month lockup period of the DAO funds, otherwise not even that would have been possible.
Being "meant to protect" is not the same as insured money, like if a bank gets robbed doesn't matter much because the money / deposits are insured.
Now that i destroyed your stupid arguments, tell us your mains account on this forum, how many do you have ?
i guess you have no clue of the situation. Being "meant to protect" is not the same as insured money, like if a bank gets robbed doesn't matter much because the money / deposits are insured.
Now that i destroyed your stupid arguments, tell us your mains account on this forum, how many do you have ?
if a person says this black hat attack is theft . and they take that as a reason why they destroy integrity of ethereum prefork, it should use this moral standarts for the persons own movements and then the white attack was theft too and they shall return the ether in there to the holders of the dao.
or the dao holders or one should do a police report.
or start a crowdfunding
in the threats i am sure they will suport it
right now 7.5 millions of etc are in the ahnds of the ones that like etc to die .
and if you say they got enough repay with the rollback well they should get there etc too like every other prefork eth holder.
or are there 2 sets of eth holders for you ? they ones that shut up and the ones that are bullied becouse they dont shut up?
18 millions dollars isn't a joke....
IF DAO holders wanted to sue - they could put up a really good case and it would then tie alot of things into the mix about using a new chain with an old brand. . I will be surprised if a whale doesn;t sue eventually especially if ETC rises in value more.
I won't sue as i am not a whale in by any means.
However i do want whats rightfully mine and if you do to - PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION
IF DAO holders wanted to sue - they could put up a really good case and it would then tie alot of things into the mix about using a new chain with an old brand. . I will be surprised if a whale doesn;t sue eventually especially if ETC rises in value more.
I won't sue as i am not a whale in by any means.
However i do want whats rightfully mine and if you do to - PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION
Well, then make up your mind. If you're not going to sue then your empty legal threats don't mean anything.
Have you even talked to the van-de-something white hat guy or do you just get the kick out of stirring shit on the intertubes?
What i am going to say to Van-de Sande.
Me - Hi MR Sande - Did you notice you and your 'white hat' hacker team which you curated still owes DAO Investors over 18 million dollars.
Van de - No it must of slipped my mind
Me - Oh really, Gee, Thats why you and your chronies havn't updated anybody as to what your doing with the stolen DAO ETC.
Van de - Yes, well alot of things slip my mind , especially when you work for Ethereum
Me - Yes really tough remembering to update people when you work for Ethereum and the ETC & ETH case has been ongoing for the past month.
I mean its only a mere 7.2 million ETC- So will you give back the ETC?
Van de -- Well no DAO investor has asked for it back untill now
Me - Well look at the petition
PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION
A lesson in how to make friends and influence people.
Your attitude will always get closed doors. Get your money ready. The only way you'll get this ETC is in court. And I'll be supporting the defense all the way.
A lesson in tying humour into a BS situation.
I won't be in the court room, i'm too small fish to take further action on this but you can have fun supporting the defence if it comes to that.
The purpose of this thread is to raise awareness as so far nobody has come forward with a statement or anything regarding the ETC ( and hopefully get some signatures)
The amount of people on this thread who don't seem to understand that the DAO holders are the victims in this case is astounding. - They rather side with supposed 'white hat' hackers' who has shown no interest so far to return DAO holders rightfully owned stolen ETC. If they have - please post a link to this thread!
The FBI and the Chinese police should work together to proffer a solution, but I believe the issue on ground tilts more towards the Chinese police than the FBI.
If it's illegal then call the police. They are not obliged to give you anything. Ethereum also suffered loses because of the DAO, with it's value going to 50% of what it was. I don't ask for their money, do i ? You stupid fuck.
i guess you are right one of the DAO Holders should report to the police. i am certain they get there ETC back . The question is which police force is responsible for investigation and catching the thief? The FBI or Chinese police?
If it's illegal then call the police. They are not obliged to give you anything. Ethereum also suffered loses because of the DAO, with it's value going to 50% of what it was. I don't ask for their money, do i ? You stupid fuck.
i guess you are right one of the DAO Holders should report to the police. i am certain they get there ETC back .
I signed the petition.How wil be the return.
Sorry, DAO was a disaster that spread across ETH, now they are trying to save face claiming the fork was a good idea when everyone knows they fucked up big, big time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGW9ozE-ys
Excellent video to see both sides of the coin, and ETC objectively wins the debate.
No the fork was a gud success. It's the muppets like yourself supporting the ETC criminal coin that's at fault. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGW9ozE-ys
Excellent video to see both sides of the coin, and ETC objectively wins the debate.
Why do you keep saying criminal coin? When in fact it was Vitalik that has done the biggest crime in the cryptosphere by tinkering with the transaction history for the benefit of the few. What happened to his core values as a supporter of decentralization and anti censorship? That all is flushed down the toilet because why? MONEY.
If you can convince the DAO hacker to return the ETC, there is no need for the hard fork to get back the coins.
Sorry, DAO was a disaster that spread across ETH, now they are trying to save face claiming the fork was a good idea when everyone knows they fucked up big, big time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGW9ozE-ys
Excellent video to see both sides of the coin, and ETC objectively wins the debate.
No the fork was a gud success. It's the muppets like yourself supporting the ETC criminal coin that's at fault. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGW9ozE-ys
Excellent video to see both sides of the coin, and ETC objectively wins the debate.
Why do you keep saying criminal coin? When in fact it was Vitalik that has done the biggest crime in the cryptosphere by tinkering with the transaction history for the benefit of the few. What happened to his core values as a supporter of decentralization and anti censorship? That all is flushed down the toilet because why? MONEY.
Something for the OP:
https://forum.daohub.org/t/ethereum-classic-etc-and-the-dao-holders-will-the-white-hat-team-return-the-funds-on-the-etc-chain/6398
See... I'm not all that bad!
(and the OP there is honest about motivations, no BS about principle)
https://forum.daohub.org/t/ethereum-classic-etc-and-the-dao-holders-will-the-white-hat-team-return-the-funds-on-the-etc-chain/6398
See... I'm not all that bad!
(and the OP there is honest about motivations, no BS about principle)
Analogy - So supposedly trustable & respectable white hat theives (who are associated to a 1 Billion dollar SAFE & Security Corporation) take your diamonds from a safe to prevent the black hat theives from taking it and put it in their max security safe. Now as the diamond owner - it is my obligation to find a way to remove the diamonds out of the 'white hats safe' - Despite not knowing the password, the location, the mechanisms of the safe, the thickness of the metal, the amount of security guards protecting it etc etc. The white hat theives know all of this yet its now my responsibility.LOL
Great analogy except it has no bearing on the actual situation. All you need to do is talk to those guys and find out if they can help you or give you the information needed to proceed on your own. Even if you get your petition done you'll have to deliver it to someone. Why not just contact them now?
When you need food do you send a petition to the grocery store or maybe first check if they would be willing to sell it to you at a mutually acceptable price?
StinkyLover - they don't need to forfeit the ETH but the thing is that the hard fork path was chosen in part because it was deemed too complicated/risky to recover the coins via the white hat path. Now the fork is done but someone still wants to do the white hat recovery anyway. I'd say more power to them except this petitioner only knows how to yell "give me my money" and doesn't want to spend even 5 minutes on research.
If you want the ETC then agree (in writing in your petition) to give back the ETH you received as refund.
(but I can 100% bet that you have an excuse for wanting to keep both!)
(but I can 100% bet that you have an excuse for wanting to keep both!)
You're kidding, right?
The FACT that all these ETC opportunist hypocrites have kept & split their respective ETH is what makes the OP's claim valid. I mean come on, folks!
Chances are the white hats would NEVER want to put the effort if they read some of the crap the OP is posting, but such counterarguments/demands that totally ignore the reality of the situation are as idiotic.
Agreed
Stinky lover is now a self proclaimed moron
If you want the ETC then agree (in writing in your petition) to give back the ETH you received as refund.
(but I can 100% bet that you have an excuse for wanting to keep both!)
(but I can 100% bet that you have an excuse for wanting to keep both!)
You're kidding, right?
The FACT that all these ETC opportunist hypocrites have kept & split their respective ETH is what makes the OP's claim valid. I mean come on, folks!
Chances are the white hats would NEVER want to put the effort if they read some of the crap the OP is posting, but such counterarguments/demands that totally ignore the reality of the situation are as idiotic.
Agreed
Stinky lover is now a self proclaimed moron
Analogy - So supposedly trustable & respectable white hat theives (who are associated to a 1 Billion dollar SAFE & Security Corporation) take your diamonds from a safe to prevent the black hat theives from taking it and put it in their max security safe. Now as the diamond owner - it is my obligation to find a way to remove the diamonds out of the 'white hats safe' - Despite not knowing the password, the location, the mechanisms of the safe, the thickness of the metal, the amount of security guards protecting it etc etc. The white hat theives know all of this yet its now my responsibility.LOL
Unfortunately they are not your diamonds any more. You bought the diamonds previously from a diamond merchant who fulfilled their moral obligation by giving you a FULL REFUND for the money you spent purchasing the diamonds (when they found a flaw in the safe which meant a thief had locked up your diamonds within the vault itself). You have a new account which leads me to believe you agreed with the HF (you don't want to use your old account which will tell the truth about where you stand on the HF).
Now you want to be refunded again, claiming the items you received the refund for are somehow still yours.
If you want the ETC then agree (in writing in your petition) to give back the ETH you received as refund.
(but I can 100% bet that you have an excuse for wanting to keep both!)
Sorry, DAO was a disaster that spread across ETH, now they are trying to save face claiming the fork was a good idea when everyone knows they fucked up big, big time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGW9ozE-ys
Excellent video to see both sides of the coin, and ETC objectively wins the debate.
No the fork was a gud success. It's the muppets like yourself supporting the ETC criminal coin that's at fault. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGW9ozE-ys
Excellent video to see both sides of the coin, and ETC objectively wins the debate.
Pretty sick of everyone crying if things don't go your way...move on and adapt. Deal with the new "new".
A lesson in tying humour into a BS situation.
I won't be in the court room, i'm too small fish to take further action on this but you can have fun supporting the defence if it comes to that.
The purpose of this thread is to raise awareness as so far nobody has come forward with a statement or anything regarding the ETC ( and hopefully get some signatures)
The amount of people on this thread who don't seem to understand that the DAO holders are the victims in this case is astounding. - They rather side with supposed 'white hat' hackers' who has shown no interest so far to return DAO holders rightfully owned stolen ETC. If they have - please post a link to this thread!
I won't be in the court room, i'm too small fish to take further action on this but you can have fun supporting the defence if it comes to that.
The purpose of this thread is to raise awareness as so far nobody has come forward with a statement or anything regarding the ETC ( and hopefully get some signatures)
The amount of people on this thread who don't seem to understand that the DAO holders are the victims in this case is astounding. - They rather side with supposed 'white hat' hackers' who has shown no interest so far to return DAO holders rightfully owned stolen ETC. If they have - please post a link to this thread!
You're still completely ignorant of the fact that safely removing funds from the white hat DAO may require a soft fork. That's why you need to talk to people who actually know this shit instead of stirring it for your imaginary intertubes cred. Is ETC going to soft fork for you? Can someone figure out another way?
You can wave your petition all day long but if you don't know the technical details, aren't willing to do the work yourself, and don't intend to go to court despite throwing legal threats around - you're just wasting everyone's time.
it's a good-enough theory for a lawyer to take his money and sleep soundly at night. 
touché
Its NOT my obligation to do any of that. Its the obligation of whoever has my ETC. If they want to be compensated for their time - the DAO holders can reward them with ETC from the pool of funds - as i said previously.
Analogy - So supposedly trustable & respectable white hat theives (who are associated to a 1 Billion dollar SAFE & Security Corporation) take your diamonds from a safe to prevent the black hat theives from taking it and put it in their max security safe. Now as the diamond owner - it is my obligation to find a way to remove the diamonds out of the 'white hats safe' - Despite not knowing the password, the location, the mechanisms of the safe, the thickness of the metal, the amount of security guards protecting it etc etc. The white hat theives know all of this yet its now my responsibility.LOL
A lesson in tying humour into a BS situation.
I won't be in the court room, i'm too small fish to take further action on this but you can have fun supporting the defence if it comes to that.
The purpose of this thread is to raise awareness as so far nobody has come forward with a statement or anything regarding the ETC ( and hopefully get some signatures)
The amount of people on this thread who don't seem to understand that the DAO holders are the victims in this case is astounding. - They rather side with supposed 'white hat' hackers' who has shown no interest so far to return DAO holders rightfully owned stolen ETC. If they have - please post a link to this thread!
I won't be in the court room, i'm too small fish to take further action on this but you can have fun supporting the defence if it comes to that.
The purpose of this thread is to raise awareness as so far nobody has come forward with a statement or anything regarding the ETC ( and hopefully get some signatures)
The amount of people on this thread who don't seem to understand that the DAO holders are the victims in this case is astounding. - They rather side with supposed 'white hat' hackers' who has shown no interest so far to return DAO holders rightfully owned stolen ETC. If they have - please post a link to this thread!
You're still completely ignorant of the fact that safely removing funds from the white hat DAO may require a soft fork. That's why you need to talk to people who actually know this shit instead of stirring it for your imaginary intertubes cred. Is ETC going to soft fork for you? Can someone figure out another way?
You can wave your petition all day long but if you don't know the technical details, aren't willing to do the work yourself, and don't intend to go to court despite throwing legal threats around - you're just wasting everyone's time.
it's a good-enough theory for a lawyer to take his money and sleep soundly at night.
touché
18 millions dollars isn't a joke....
IF DAO holders wanted to sue - they could put up a really good case and it would then tie alot of things into the mix about using a new chain with an old brand. . I will be surprised if a whale doesn;t sue eventually especially if ETC rises in value more.
I won't sue as i am not a whale in by any means.
However i do want whats rightfully mine and if you do to - PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION
IF DAO holders wanted to sue - they could put up a really good case and it would then tie alot of things into the mix about using a new chain with an old brand. . I will be surprised if a whale doesn;t sue eventually especially if ETC rises in value more.
I won't sue as i am not a whale in by any means.
However i do want whats rightfully mine and if you do to - PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION
Well, then make up your mind. If you're not going to sue then your empty legal threats don't mean anything.
Have you even talked to the van-de-something white hat guy or do you just get the kick out of stirring shit on the intertubes?
What i am going to say to Van-de Sande.
Me - Hi MR Sande - Did you notice you and your 'white hat' hacker team which you curated still owes DAO Investors over 18 million dollars.
Van de - No it must of slipped my mind
Me - Oh really, Gee, Thats why you and your chronies havn't updated anybody as to what your doing with the stolen DAO ETC.
Van de - Yes, well alot of things slip my mind , especially when you work for Ethereum
Me - Yes really tough remembering to update people when you work for Ethereum and the ETC & ETH case has been ongoing for the past month.
I mean its only a mere 7.2 million ETC- So will you give back the ETC?
Van de -- Well no DAO investor has asked for it back untill now
Me - Well look at the petition
PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION
A lesson in how to make friends and influence people.
Your attitude will always get closed doors. Get your money ready. The only way you'll get this ETC is in court. And I'll be supporting the defense all the way.
A lesson in tying humour into a BS situation.
I won't be in the court room, i'm too small fish to take further action on this but you can have fun supporting the defence if it comes to that.
The purpose of this thread is to raise awareness as so far nobody has come forward with a statement or anything regarding the ETC ( and hopefully get some signatures)
The amount of people on this thread who don't seem to understand that the DAO holders are the victims in this case is astounding. - They rather side with supposed 'white hat' hackers' who has shown no interest so far to return DAO holders rightfully owned stolen ETC. If they have - please post a link to this thread!
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