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Topic: MEMBERS OF ETHEREUM TO RETURN ETC TO DAO INVESTORS PETITION - page 7. (Read 8026 times)

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you know nothing about ethereum, do not pretend  Cheesy
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lol eth returned from dao is after the fork only, it cannot exist on ethc chain this is the whole point to fork. eth/c  left in dao is the hackers which was not carried over in the fork. all returned dao eth after fork there is no matching ethc.

Reality Check:

http://blocks.elaineou.com/addr/0xb136707642a4ea12fb4bae820f03d2562ebff487

http://blocks.elaineou.com/addr/0x84ef4b2357079cd7a7c69fd7a37cd0609a679106

http://blocks.elaineou.com/addr/0x807640a13483f8ac783c557fcdf27be11ea4ac7a


 Cool

DAO address ETH Balance:  2 wei (less than $0.01) 

https://etherscan.io/address/0xbb9bc244d798123fde783fcc1c72d3bb8c189413

DAO address ETHC Balance:  63.17

http://classic.aakilfernandes.com/#/address/bb9bc244d798123fde783fcc1c72d3bb8c189413
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Ethereum Classic is the original chain which DAO investors invested in. The fact it got hard forked & now some ethereum guys have millions of dollars of ETC (Which belong to the DAO investors)which they were meant to protect isn't right! ITS ILLEGAL AND  IMMORAL


lol eth returned from dao is after the fork only, it cannot exist on ethc chain this is the whole point to fork. eth/c  left in dao is the hackers which was not carried over in the fork. all returned dao eth after fork there is no matching ethc.
legendary
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Ethereum Classic is the original chain which DAO investors invested in. The fact it got hard forked & now some ethereum guys have millions of dollars of ETC (Which belong to the DAO investors)which they were meant to protect isn't right! ITS ILLEGAL AND  IMMORAL


Wait, what? So the DAO investors wanted the bailout and to get their ETH back, now they want to get some ETC as well?

There is an easy solution to that. Fork again and roll it back. Worked great the last time.
No, it's only the OP who is demanding his ETC. The real DAO investors don't want their ETC back as we categorically do not support the criminals coin and chain of choice, ETC. All my development and support is going into ETH, the official chain of the EF. The whitehat wearers worked together to try to resolve the situation for all and I'm happy for them to be paid in the shitcoinage ETC so they can dump for $$$$'s.
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Sure its specific members of the Ethereum team, however members make up a foundation.
Ethereum foundation had a major/pivotal role in the white hack attacks....... I don't see how i can not bring them into this.

But thanks for the support & please sign the petition.

You are NOT going to get support if you continue to direct the claim towards the Foundation...   trust me.

MEMBERS OF ETHEREUM TEAM (WHITE HATS) TO RETURN ETC TO DAO HOLDERS -- Petition title changed & so did the introduction page -

Thanks for your input
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@suchmoon no dao investor in their right mind would ask that, this is just low quality FUD from ETC/bitcoin side.

Speak for yourself...   DAOinvestorwantsETC might be making a mistake directing the claim towards the Foundation & risking to distance potential strong supporters, but you need to take a better look at the claim itself.

These ETC opportunist hypocrites got ETH + ETC (whereas The DAO token holders only got ETH), but they're running around all this time trying to convince everyone & their momma that it was The DAO token holders that got a bailout.  Yeah OK...  Roll Eyes

In other words, get the word out & DO NOT involve the Foundation.  If there is a way for the white hats to send the ETC to a withdraw contract, it should be done...  PERIOD

Or do these ETC morons actually believe that keeping & splitting both currencies should be restricted for the bailout THEY got?



...and before any of you FUCKIN' RETARDS comes at me with drama, provide proof-of-burn for your respective ETH or STFU!!!   Wink




The reason i am calling out the ethereum foundation is due to this

Q: Who are the Ethereum/DAO white hat hackers?

A: The public face of The Goodies (or Robin Hood as referred to in Update on the White Hat attack) is Alex Van de Sande. The other members have not been revealed to the public.

While he is not working on behalf of his employer as part of The Goodies, he is lead designer at the Ethereum Foundation. He is spearheading the Wallet and Mist project with the Go Ethereum team.




.................................................

Therefore it is part of Ethereum integrity  to do the right thing and return the funds.

Sure its specific members of the Ethereum team, however members make up a foundation.
Ethereum foundation had a major/pivotal role in the white hack attacks....... I don't see how i can not bring them into this.



But thanks for the support & please sign the petition.
legendary
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why not?? if i was the white hat hacker i would. Why would i want to have any liability for the theft of millions of dollars of ETC. The legal implications is far far to great. The white hat hackers are known and respectable. Why would they want to carry that chip?

But it won't happen unless we let our voice known

Please sign the petition if you are a DAO holder and want your ETC back

Didn't DAO holders overwhelmingly "vote" for the ETH fork and to leave the ETC (original ETH chain) to die? Any such petition should have been filed before the fork, not that it would have made any difference though. You wanted a bailout, you got a bailout, I'm struggling to understand why the sudden interest in the the old "criminal" chain.
newbie
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why not?? if i was the white hat hacker i would. Why would i want to have any liability for the theft of millions of dollars of ETC. The legal implications is far far to great. The white hat hackers are known and respectable. Why would they want to carry that chip?

But it won't happen unless we let our voice known

Please sign the petition if you are a DAO holder and want your ETC back
legendary
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You are posting everywhere? lol nice try and all but dream on, it won't happen.
newbie
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i am aware its open sourced & not a corporation as such.
Ethereum as a brand would be a better term.
But i don't expect you to understand things from this perspective.
Morons generally don't.
hero member
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Lol, corporation, another proof youre so much dumber than me or anyone else. Your FUD is so bad, you shouldn't log again on this new created account to FUD because you just embarassed yourself.
@suchmoon no dao investor in their right mind would ask that, this is just low quality FUD from ETC/bitcoin side.
newbie
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Because the "blackhats" funds locked in the dao were meant to give foundation time to come with a solution, and they did., HF was a resounding success. Problem with the "white hats" is, you cant possibly know how much of that 7.2mil ether are actually held by white hats, a part of them could simply go with " whitehat" to simply steal the money without causing too much panic. How many of the whitehat attackers admited they're the attackers and showed proofs ? How much of that 7.2mil can really be accounted in white hats hands ?
I don't say they shouldn't return the funds, i'm saying you can't know IF they are real white hats and i'm also saying they aren't OBLIGED to return the funds, because ETC community went with: IF the hacker got 3.5mil ether then that's his reward because the used the contract as it was meant, so i'll ask again: WHY is it right for the attacker and wrong for other atackers, be them white hats or black hats ?

Becouse we know who the main white hackers are. They were a group co-ordinated by members of Ethereum.
Therefore the responsibility lies with Ethereum as a corporation to do the ethical act of returning ETC funds.
AND if they did lose Ethereum classic on the main chain - they can claim it back through the redistribution...


I am done speaking to you mining1 untill you have something intelligent to say
hero member
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Ok there's no hope for you, you want them to give you their own money for your loses, as if they DIDNT lose ETC/ dao on etc chain. Stupid fuck. You could aswell ask chandler guo to give ETC for your loses, would be as stupid.
newbie
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Ethereum Classic is the original chain which DAO investors invested in. The fact it got hard forked & now some ethereum guys have millions of dollars of ETC (Which belong to the DAO investors)which they were meant to protect isn't right! ITS ILLEGAL AND  IMMORAL


Wait, what? So the DAO investors wanted the bailout and to get their ETH back, now they want to get some ETC as well?

There is an easy solution to that. Fork again and roll it back. Worked great the last time.

No an easy answer to that is that members of the white hat Ethereum group redistribute the ETC which they have access to - to all the DAO holders adresses proportional to what they invested.
hero member
Activity: 532
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Because the "blackhats" funds locked in the dao were meant to give foundation time to come with a solution, and they did., HF was a resounding success. Problem with the "white hats" is, you cant possibly know how much of that 7.2mil ether are actually held by white hats, a part of them could simply go with " whitehat" to simply steal the money without causing too much panic. How many of the whitehat attackers admited they're the attackers and showed proofs ? How much of that 7.2mil can really be accounted in white hats hands ?
I don't say they shouldn't return the funds, i'm saying you can't know IF they are real white hats and i'm also saying they aren't OBLIGED to return the funds, because ETC community went with: IF the hacker got 3.5mil ether then that's his reward because the used the contract as it was meant, so i'll ask again: WHY is it right for the attacker and wrong for other atackers, be them white hats or black hats ?
legendary
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https://bpip.org
Ethereum Classic is the original chain which DAO investors invested in. The fact it got hard forked & now some ethereum guys have millions of dollars of ETC (Which belong to the DAO investors)which they were meant to protect isn't right! ITS ILLEGAL AND  IMMORAL


Wait, what? So the DAO investors wanted the bailout and to get their ETH back, now they want to get some ETC as well?

There is an easy solution to that. Fork again and roll it back. Worked great the last time.
newbie
Activity: 28
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Facepalm - The Black hats funds were held in a child DAO too - the one month lock up period applied for his ETC too. So what was the POINT in the white hats( AKA ethereum-) if not to RETURN the funds.
hero member
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It has all to do with it you dumbass, because DAO was like a hedge fund, but with NO insurance, no one guaranteed for the investment's safety as in, like " if something bad happens we'll give you our own money " . And the hardfork was only viable because of the 1month lockup period of the DAO funds, otherwise not even that would have been possible.
Being "meant to protect" is not the same as insured money, like if a bank gets robbed doesn't matter much because the money / deposits are insured.
Now that i destroyed your stupid arguments, tell us your mains account on this forum, how many do you have ?
newbie
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what has a percentage loss in Ethereums market cap due to sloppy coding/auditing got to do with ethereum holding millions of dollars of DAO investors ETC which they were meant to protect & return. Infact it would have been more beneficial if they didn't take the ETC leaving it at the hands of the black hat so that would damage Ethereum classics reputation more with the predetermined hard fork.

Go get some education. I hear kindergarden is a good start.
hero member
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If it's illegal then call the police. They are not obliged to give you anything. Ethereum also suffered loses because of the DAO, with it's value going to 50% of what it was. I don't ask for their money, do i ? You stupid fuck.
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