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legendary
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Fully fledged Merit Cycler - Golden Feather 22-23
February 10, 2024, 12:32:45 PM
the fee market is actually plagued by scammer nerds victimising and penalising bitcoiners with junk data


Ok, thanks.
I thought the "spamming" of the net by ordinals attack nonsense had exhausted their funds and are actually Wall Street-related users (whale included) keeping demand space high.
I was wrong, apparently.
copper member
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bc1qvq66kccea2fdqft6kss2zyn8y32z8xyy9rzhp0
February 10, 2024, 12:00:01 PM
     
  • fastestFee: 28 sat/vB
  • halfHourFee: 27 sat/vB
  • hourFee: 24 sat/vB
  • economyFee: 8 sat/vB
  • minimumFee: 4 sat/vB
legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4766
February 10, 2024, 11:45:32 AM
I'm guessing if there is a new seasonality in the fee market.
Fees used to be higher in the early days, as nerds around the globe had more time to play with magic internet money.
Nowadays, fees are higher during weekdays, and Wall Street is trading the hardest currency in human history.

nah not wallstreet related.. a transaction doesnt care if it holds 1sat or 100,000btc. a transactions byte length for value is the same 4 bytes

the fee market is actually plagued by scammer nerds victimising and penalising bitcoiners with junk data

check out the "fee range" and "value range" charts on jan 15th:
https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/blocks/btc/825851

compared to feb 10th
https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/blocks/btc/829767
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
February 10, 2024, 11:36:30 AM
     
  • economyFee: 10 sat/vB
  • minimumFee: 5 sat/vB

One week and we're down by 240vMB in the mempool, it's still barely Saturday afternoon and the extra blocks keep being mined at the same 5%-10% extra rate.
So, does Feebudy has some extra safety features or will he crash when we hit 1sat/vb?  Grin

Perfect time for me to inscribe my custom MIDI ringtone collection and release it as an Ordinals series. $$$$ here we come
At the rate you're going you might as well just rip the entire iTunes Store and put it on the blockchain  Wink
Would like me some Nine Inch Nails whenever I broadcast a transaction.
Seriously though:
WTF is going on?
Why are Ordinals platforms lowballing the fee rates all of a sudden?

Fortunately it' still expensive to put full songs , assuming we keep some quality you will still have to pay close to $5000 per block so we're a bit too early for that. Even it at 1sat/vb and not 10sat/vb there is no danger of somebody uploading avatar2 in 4k on the chain...yet!
As for ordinals, probably out of a market and ideas, common, how many pixels resembling monkey/dog/cat memes  can you make?
legendary
Activity: 2268
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Fully fledged Merit Cycler - Golden Feather 22-23
February 10, 2024, 08:06:17 AM
I'm guessing if there is a new seasonality in the fee market.
Fees used to be higher in the early days, as nerds around the globe had more time to play with magic internet money.
Nowadays, fees are higher during weekdays, and Wall Street is trading the hardest currency in human history.
legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4766
February 10, 2024, 07:07:54 AM
Wow! Thank you. How do you create a hex transaction from TX id?

luckily because blockchain.com still retained the tx in its mempool
i used the txid on this url
https://blockchain.info/rawtx/42105820754888a816820be27bd8670b5789e82ffd9f88cb68446c1afe414fa9?format=hex

with the ?format=hex so it shows the hex instead of json

then copied the hex(rawtx) to different sites like
https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/pushtx/

to rebroadcast it

oh look, it confirmed 3 blocks ago(time of this post minis 3 blocks of time).. seemed like it just needed a good push at the right time
you are welcome

but yea would have been easier for you to rebroadcast or try again from your own wallet if no other network node had it..
hero member
Activity: 504
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Crypto Swap Exchange
February 10, 2024, 06:51:18 AM
It's good that fees are dropping, I guess the BRC-20 scam didn't last for too long.

This recent phase did last a few months, imo it was very long. With this BRC20 bullshit, we should never speak too fast lol, we're not immune to a new wave that could congest the mempool again..

This has already happened a couple of times now
sr. member
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February 10, 2024, 06:02:34 AM
It's good that fees are dropping, I guess the BRC-20 scam didn't last for too long.

I doubt we're gonna see 1 sat/vB, but I'll be glad if I can be proven wrong. Smiley
copper member
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bc1qvq66kccea2fdqft6kss2zyn8y32z8xyy9rzhp0
February 10, 2024, 06:00:00 AM
     
  • fastestFee: 21 sat/vB
  • halfHourFee: 20 sat/vB
  • hourFee: 19 sat/vB
  • economyFee: 10 sat/vB
  • minimumFee: 5 sat/vB
legendary
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Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
February 10, 2024, 04:59:40 AM
Wow! Thank you. How do you create a hex transaction from TX id?

You can't. Transaction HASH cannot be reversed by design. However, bitcoin nodes store the txid along with the raw transaction itself, which you can query from the RPC console by using getrawtransaction on a node running with -txindex.
jr. member
Activity: 269
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February 10, 2024, 04:08:29 AM
This is the transaction on block chain.com explorer
https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/42105820754888a816820be27bd8670b5789e82ffd9f88cb68446c1afe414fa9
It shows unconfirmed transaction.

And the fees were high on the day I sent the coins. If I had waited till today, I would have probably paid lower fees for higher bytes.

your fee's were not high in comparison to others. you did not pay priority

also looking at when it suggests it was "first seen" by blockchain.com ( a month ago)
id presume your TX got purged/dropped.. by most nodes mempools
(purge is removal for being part of the low paying cluster that takes up more room then nodes mempools wants to keep)
(dropped is when its been too long, usual default is 2 weeks)

try to broadcast it again. as different mempools may have purged or dropped your tx from their nodes and mining pools just dont see your transaction

EDIT
i just pushed it again for you 5 minutes ago when writing this message
if you need the HEX of raw tx of your tx to push
Code:
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

i just checked a explorer that didnt find your tx 10 minutes ago but now sees it
https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/42105820754888a816820be27bd8670b5789e82ffd9f88cb68446c1afe414fa9/

mempool.space now sees it
https://mempool.space/tx/42105820754888a816820be27bd8670b5789e82ffd9f88cb68446c1afe414fa9

you are welcome


Wow! Thank you. How do you create a hex transaction from TX id?
legendary
Activity: 1568
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bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
February 10, 2024, 02:48:07 AM
Perfect time for me to inscribe my custom MIDI ringtone collection and release it as an Ordinals series. $$$$ here we come

At the rate you're going you might as well just rip the entire iTunes Store and put it on the blockchain  Wink

Would like me some Nine Inch Nails whenever I broadcast a transaction.

Seriously though:

WTF is going on?

Why are Ordinals platforms lowballing the fee rates all of a sudden?
legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4766
February 10, 2024, 12:53:35 AM
it has become an interesting observation to see the type of transactions certain pools select
take
https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/blocks/btc/829767
which you can visualise the transaction selection using these charts


it ignored thousands of transactions waiting at 10sat/byte+ and selected majority the 9sat/b tx to fill the block which were moving very very very small value (creating UTXO of 330sats)

so although paying low 9sat/b the only reason to include thousands of them and ignore higher fee's if is those thousands of transactions were bribed into being selected via private deals

so whats the point of these 'bitcoin annoyance continuation pundits' aka idiots, still trying to proclaim we should not introduce a transaction priority formulae for bitcoin. where these other system idealists pretend people should (be penalised by the "fee market" war of) just pay more onchain if even the "just pay more onchain fee" is not even the way transactions are selected
legendary
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February 10, 2024, 12:13:22 AM
Perfect time for me to inscribe my custom MIDI ringtone collection and release it as an Ordinals series. $$$$ here we come

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e67_1AieWdM

copper member
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bc1qvq66kccea2fdqft6kss2zyn8y32z8xyy9rzhp0
February 10, 2024, 12:00:01 AM
     
  • fastestFee: 25 sat/vB
  • halfHourFee: 23 sat/vB
  • hourFee: 22 sat/vB
  • economyFee: 14 sat/vB
  • minimumFee: 7 sat/vB
legendary
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Crypto Swap Exchange
February 09, 2024, 06:11:12 PM
     
  • fastestFee: 21 sat/vB
  • halfHourFee: 21 sat/vB
  • hourFee: 21 sat/vB
  • economyFee: 20 sat/vB
  • minimumFee: 10 sat/vB

Holly 21sat/vB
If nothing happens and this continues, in several hours it may reach the 16 sat/vB that @okorieemmanuel expects

copper member
Activity: 322
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bc1qvq66kccea2fdqft6kss2zyn8y32z8xyy9rzhp0
February 09, 2024, 06:00:00 PM
     
  • fastestFee: 21 sat/vB
  • halfHourFee: 21 sat/vB
  • hourFee: 21 sat/vB
  • economyFee: 20 sat/vB
  • minimumFee: 10 sat/vB
legendary
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bitcoindata.science
February 09, 2024, 04:46:40 PM
No they don't show the same data.


This is the transaction on block chain.com explorer

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/42105820754888a816820be27bd8670b5789e82ffd9f88cb68446c1afe414fa9


It shows unconfirmed transaction.





This is the same transaction on mempool.space


https://mempool.space/tx/42105820754888a816820be27bd8670b5789e82ffd9f88cb68446c1afe414fa9

Here it says


Transaction not found.
Waiting for it to appear in the mempool...



There is no "the mempool"
Each node add some transactions. Your transaction is low fee and was not confirmed yet.

You should rebroadcast your transaction


You can try
https://www.blockchain.com/pt/explorer/assets/btc/broadcast-transaction
https://btc.network/broadcast
legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4766
February 09, 2024, 01:58:59 PM
This is the transaction on block chain.com explorer
https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/42105820754888a816820be27bd8670b5789e82ffd9f88cb68446c1afe414fa9
It shows unconfirmed transaction.

And the fees were high on the day I sent the coins. If I had waited till today, I would have probably paid lower fees for higher bytes.

your fee's were not high in comparison to others. you did not pay priority

also looking at when it suggests it was "first seen" by blockchain.com ( a month ago)
id presume your TX got purged/dropped.. by most nodes mempools
(purge is removal for being part of the low paying cluster that takes up more room then nodes mempools wants to keep)
(dropped is when its been too long, usual default is 2 weeks)

try to broadcast it again. as different mempools may have purged or dropped your tx from their nodes and mining pools just dont see your transaction

EDIT
i just pushed it again for you 5 minutes ago when writing this message
if you need the HEX of raw tx of your tx to push
Code:
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

i just checked a explorer that didnt find your tx 10 minutes ago but now sees it
https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/42105820754888a816820be27bd8670b5789e82ffd9f88cb68446c1afe414fa9/

mempool.space now sees it
https://mempool.space/tx/42105820754888a816820be27bd8670b5789e82ffd9f88cb68446c1afe414fa9

you are welcome
jr. member
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February 09, 2024, 12:42:21 PM
I am surprised to see mempool.space here in bitcointalk . Anyway, welcome!

My question is : can you synchronise mempool.space to the blockchain.com Explorer?  

Why do I have the feeling that you think this is the official thread of mempool.space and that you expect some explanations and acceptance of suggestions from the official representatives of mempool.space.
Certainly not. This is just a discussion thread about the mempool.space service opened by ordinary members of this forum. Apart from some explanations, don't have too high expectations

Oh!!! Thank you for the correction. I understand now.

I just needed help.  

I don't understand your question.

Blockchain.com and mempool.space show the same data. They are both block explorers with different front end



No they don't show the same data.


This is the transaction on block chain.com explorer

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/42105820754888a816820be27bd8670b5789e82ffd9f88cb68446c1afe414fa9


It shows unconfirmed transaction.





This is the same transaction on mempool.space


https://mempool.space/tx/42105820754888a816820be27bd8670b5789e82ffd9f88cb68446c1afe414fa9

Here it says


Transaction not found.
Waiting for it to appear in the mempool...


And the fees were high on the day I sent the coins. If I had waited till today, I would have probably paid lower fees for higher bytes.


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