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legendary
Activity: 1512
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Farewell, Leo
April 12, 2024, 09:22:33 AM
Wow. 1.04 GB mempool, 128 sat/vb low priority, 12 sat/vb no priority and anything less than 5.6 sat/vb is being purged. I'm done transacting this week.  Cheesy

Here's an interesting fact: Monero network is also congested: https://xmrchain.net/txpool. More than 10k transactions in mempool, and it's growing like a spam attack. Do we have any information regarding this? If it continues like that, Monero will soon exceed Bitcoin's block size limit.  Grin
sr. member
Activity: 1666
Merit: 310
April 12, 2024, 08:53:40 AM
Any idea what caused the recent fee spike?

https://mempool.space/block/000000000000000000013412024e8979a0e0c8fb22aaa5fb7b099feedd1991f9

Up to 280 sats/vB. Shocked

I'm afraid it's the users being torn a new a-hole, not miners... miners love high fees, especially with the halving being imminent.

Regarding halving, it's always the same discussion every 4 years.

Mining (in terms of purchasing power/USD valuation) becomes more and more profitable. It definitely is more profitable today compared to the 50 BTC era, there's no question about that.

Hashing competition means that older ASICs (higher nanometers) become less competitive. Lower-nanometer ASICs will remain competitive for the foreseeable future.

I don't worry about the miners' income. Even when the block subsidy will be a few sats in the far future, every transaction will cost a minimum of $1000 (in today's purchasing power, not when a Big Mac will cost $1000 Grin).

The last halving went a bit unnoticed due to COVID craziness, but the same dynamics applied back then. BTC was worth 4 digits...

Some people will disagree, but the increasing hashrate/competition drives the BTC price higher as time goes by.

Why? Because miners are forced to spend more money on ASICs & electricity, therefore they must sell their BTC for a higher price.

There's a reason BTC was dirt cheap back in 2009-2010... it's because with low amounts of electricity and a CPU/GPU you could produce tons of bitcoins.

In 5 years from now the BTC network will probably have 10 times the hashrate compared to today, but it also won't fall below 6 digits.

Economics 101
legendary
Activity: 4424
Merit: 4794
April 11, 2024, 08:40:27 PM
Now throw maybe a 10% capacity decrease because of the halving as some miners might shut down and it's going to get uglier.

the halving wont kill off the miners. the spot price has already and will look after miners
in short mining had no issues 6 months ago at 6.25btc for <$218.75k (btc was under $35k 6 months ago)
even if 1btc is still $70k next month.. 3.125btc will be $218.75k

miners were not screaming poverty 6 months ago where 1btc was under $35k/btc

Well actually Nov 2023 coins were 35k but the diff was not 86t.

it was 62t.

So a 70k which would be equal to 35k after the ½. needs to drop by 62/86 due to the diff increase.

so miners will have really torn a-holes soon.

yep november was $35k.. but 6 months ago it was UNDER $35k 12th october was $26k
which is if we take $35k/86*57 is about the $24k equivelent. so cost vs market is still in scale

so the situation of 6 months ago of 57t at market of $24k is similar to a 86t at $35k

also majority of miners plan not by the day, they pre buy/audit their accounts on a 1-2 year bases and buy up electric contracts and hardware for a 2 year lifespan so they mine constantly throughout.. its just a few hobbyists that plan by the day/week that are the weak hands that jump at the slightest market movement
but it would only need the market to stay above/around $72k+ after halving to be similar situation to 6 months ago.. and they were not crying about anal pain or poverty

i wouldnt say torn, just stretched a little
legendary
Activity: 4382
Merit: 9330
'The right to privacy matters'
April 11, 2024, 07:59:46 PM
Now throw maybe a 10% capacity decrease because of the halving as some miners might shut down and it's going to get uglier.

the halving wont kill off the miners. the spot price has already and will look after miners
in short mining had no issues 6 months ago at 6.25btc for <$218.75k (btc was under $35k 6 months ago)
even if 1btc is still $70k next month.. 3.125btc will be $218.75k

miners were not screaming poverty 6 months ago where 1btc was under $35k/btc

Well actually Nov 2023 coins were 35k but the diff was not 86t.

it was 62t.

So a 70k which would be equal to 35k after the ½. needs to drop by 62/86 due to the diff increase.

so miners will have really torn a-holes soon.
legendary
Activity: 3962
Merit: 11519
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
April 11, 2024, 07:50:04 PM
Now throw maybe a 10% capacity decrease because of the halving as some miners might shut down and it's going to get uglier.
the halving wont kill off the miners. the spot price has already and will look after miners
in short mining had no issues 6 months ago at 6.25btc for <$218.75k (btc was under $35k 6 months ago)
even if 1btc is still $70k next month.. 3.125btc will be $218.75k

miners were not screaming poverty 6 months ago where 1btc was under $35k/btc

Another thing, even if half the miners closed down, which I agree with franky they are likely not going to be shutting down in large portions.  Maybe we won't even lose 10% of them, unless the BTC price goes back down to $50k or perhaps lower.  None the less, how does fewer miners affect how many transactions are processed?  The question of how many transactions for normies are being processed likely has to do with if there is any space left for them after the "higher paying" transactions get processed first.

And, I don't claim to know what might be the latests rush for blockspace that seemed to have started around Monday-ish (4-ish days ago).. and has been pretty steady since.
legendary
Activity: 4424
Merit: 4794
April 11, 2024, 12:11:36 PM
Now throw maybe a 10% capacity decrease because of the halving as some miners might shut down and it's going to get uglier.

the halving wont kill off the miners. the spot price has already and will look after miners
in short mining had no issues 6 months ago at 6.25btc for <$218.75k (btc was under $35k 6 months ago)
even if 1btc is still $70k next month.. 3.125btc will be $218.75k

miners were not screaming poverty 6 months ago where 1btc was under $35k/btc
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 6403
Blackjack.fun
April 11, 2024, 10:48:27 AM
And we're back in business..



Over 90sat/vb for next block, back to $10 per simple tx.
I suppose I don't have to mention the culprit, right?   Grin

Now throw maybe a 10% capacity decrease because of the halving as some miners might shut down and it's going to get uglier.
sr. member
Activity: 1666
Merit: 310
March 23, 2024, 10:12:09 AM
Yes it was the whole Runes launch by Rodarmor. He got bored with Ordinals and invented a new ordinals-like system... Seems like he's just trying to milk a cash cow by this point. I suspect this fad will be even more short-lived than Ordinals.

FFS... we can't have enough of these asset protocols Sad
BTC closely follows nature's laws.

If parasites exist in nature to suck blood out of big animals, then why shouldn't digital parasites exist in the BTC ecosystem?
copper member
Activity: 406
Merit: 22
bc1qvq66kccea2fdqft6kss2zyn8y32z8xyy9rzhp0
March 22, 2024, 01:59:18 PM
     
  • fastestFee: 12 sat/vB
  • halfHourFee: 12 sat/vB
  • hourFee: 12 sat/vB
  • economyFee: 8 sat/vB
  • minimumFee: 4 sat/vB
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 6089
bitcoindata.science
March 22, 2024, 01:50:57 PM
My domain is under heavy DDOS attack (near 1 million of attack per day). I had to increase cloudflare configurations to a more aggressive setup, to keep the website up. however, those configs from cloudflare have taken FeeBuddy down...

I will try to fix it later!





In a few hours or days FeeBuddy will be back plotting date every few hours!

Edit: Just made a test with him, manually. Let's see if he gets back automatically later on.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
March 22, 2024, 07:01:00 AM
Yes it was the whole Runes launch by Rodarmor. He got bored with Ordinals and invented a new ordinals-like system... Seems like he's just trying to milk a cash cow by this point. I suspect this fad will be even more short-lived than Ordinals.

FFS... we can't have enough of these asset protocols Sad
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 6403
Blackjack.fun
March 22, 2024, 06:54:22 AM
Yes it was the whole Runes launch by Rodarmor. He got bored with Ordinals and invented a new ordinals-like system... Seems like he's just trying to milk a cash cow by this point. I suspect this fad will be even more short-lived than Ordinals.

Oh, so the the one I mentioend before that took a whole block:


was a rune and not an ordinal...?
And despite being called runes, they...are , what?

https://twitter.com/LeonidasNFT/status/1764216092514213988
ord.io/63140674

And, I hope I'm getting this wrong but no way in hell is he planning to inscribe 112k of those things, right?

legendary
Activity: 2870
Merit: 7490
Crypto Swap Exchange
March 22, 2024, 05:31:55 AM
Um I realize I am very late to this but how tf did fastestfee go all the way up to 50+ sats/vb a few days ago? Huh
Probably some new ordinal drop or a BRC drop?
There's so many of these it's hard to keep track. It's like the shitcoin craze of 2013 or the ICO bubble of 2017.
Yes it was the whole Runes launch by Rodarmor. He got bored with Ordinals and invented a new ordinals-like system... Seems like he's just trying to milk a cash cow by this point. I suspect this fad will be even more short-lived than Ordinals.

Have anyone see it's technical detail[1]? While ordinals use witness data and UTXO, runes use UTXO and OP_RETURN which create somewhat less bloat. And while ordinals idea looks fresh at it's time, both ordinals and runes looks outdated as Bitcoin sidechain/L2 gaining popularity. So yeah, i hope Runes lose it's popularity quickly.

[1] https://rodarmor.com/blog/runes/
legendary
Activity: 3010
Merit: 8114
March 21, 2024, 09:37:44 PM
Um I realize I am very late to this but how tf did fastestfee go all the way up to 50+ sats/vb a few days ago? Huh
Probably some new ordinal drop or a BRC drop?
There's so many of these it's hard to keep track. It's like the shitcoin craze of 2013 or the ICO bubble of 2017.

Yes it was the whole Runes launch by Rodarmor. He got bored with Ordinals and invented a new ordinals-like system... Seems like he's just trying to milk a cash cow by this point. I suspect this fad will be even more short-lived than Ordinals.
legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1451
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
March 21, 2024, 06:02:20 PM
Um I realize I am very late to this but how tf did fastestfee go all the way up to 50+ sats/vb a few days ago? Huh
Probably some new ordinal drop or a BRC drop?
There's so many of these it's hard to keep track. It's like the shitcoin craze of 2013 or the ICO bubble of 2017.
copper member
Activity: 406
Merit: 22
bc1qvq66kccea2fdqft6kss2zyn8y32z8xyy9rzhp0
March 21, 2024, 05:59:58 PM
     
  • fastestFee: 24 sat/vB
  • halfHourFee: 23 sat/vB
  • hourFee: 22 sat/vB
  • economyFee: 12 sat/vB
  • minimumFee: 6 sat/vB
copper member
Activity: 406
Merit: 22
bc1qvq66kccea2fdqft6kss2zyn8y32z8xyy9rzhp0
March 21, 2024, 11:59:57 AM
     
  • fastestFee: 43 sat/vB
  • halfHourFee: 39 sat/vB
  • hourFee: 34 sat/vB
  • economyFee: 12 sat/vB
  • minimumFee: 6 sat/vB
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
March 21, 2024, 07:07:31 AM
Um I realize I am very late to this but how tf did fastestfee go all the way up to 50+ sats/vb a few days ago? Huh
copper member
Activity: 406
Merit: 22
bc1qvq66kccea2fdqft6kss2zyn8y32z8xyy9rzhp0
March 21, 2024, 05:59:58 AM
     
  • fastestFee: 27 sat/vB
  • halfHourFee: 25 sat/vB
  • hourFee: 22 sat/vB
  • economyFee: 6 sat/vB
  • minimumFee: 3 sat/vB
copper member
Activity: 406
Merit: 22
bc1qvq66kccea2fdqft6kss2zyn8y32z8xyy9rzhp0
March 20, 2024, 11:59:57 PM
     
  • fastestFee: 13 sat/vB
  • halfHourFee: 11 sat/vB
  • hourFee: 10 sat/vB
  • economyFee: 8 sat/vB
  • minimumFee: 4 sat/vB
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