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kpcian

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Quote from: uptown04 on January 28, 2018, 06:44:00 PM

personally i think that this merit system have complicated the system a bit, the logic after it is good I like it, as much there are quality posts the better would this forum be but we are gonna see how merit affects the quality of posts and will people be fair to give merits.

I agree with you on this point, merit system should be more clear and it also should be more specified. I think merit system must be dependent on the quality of post but I don't know how to measure it. So when people of this forum will know that the quality of post will carry a value regarding merit point then everybody will be alert and post quality will be more informative and constructive.
On the other hand, merit point should not be sold and this system must be regulated by the admin of this forum, otherwise, it will lose its quality for sure.

orka39

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Merit: 47

Quote from: yojodojo21 on January 26, 2018, 08:46:06 AM

I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

P.S.
OP is not asking attention, read and understand. Obedience is better than sacrifice.

How about helping eachother? I mean like we give our merit eachother? Its not good either in my opinion because it will give to anybody wheater they have not quality post.
I know every system has pros and cons, but this system has more pros than its cons.

Tyrantt

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Tracking merit sales can be hard and I'm trying to think of a way to track it down or prevent it, but I'm slowly getting to conclusion that it might not be possible at all.

Whoever want's to sell/buy, they can make a group on telegram or whatever and use different names and make a deal, it's simply too hard to prevent it.

The only thing that's coming to mind right now is like the upvote system. Like where people would upvote comments and if that one got ~5-10 upvotes, they'd receive a merit point, of course then sMerit would be removed.

This is the same situation as with illegal trades around the world, it's illegal but people will still try to do it somehow to get some more money, it's pretty normal.

uptown04

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personally i think that this merit system have complicated the system a bit, the logic after it is good I like it, as much there are quality posts the better would this forum be but we are gonna see how merit affects the quality of posts and will people be fair to give merits.

kryptqnick

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Quote from: MURONDI on January 26, 2018, 12:51:17 PM

Perhaps many buy and sell merit points in secret, I think it is very difficult to get merit points, most people will probably take a shortcut, maybe they have multiple accounts to send each other..

I agree, it is actually not that easy to track merit sells, especially if they are not made in big amounts and arranged somehow outside the forum or in local boards. However, I guess the system will work fine eventually. It is just that some improvements and explanations should be made.
Maybe it would be a good idea to set a limit of 5 merits one can give to one post, for example. At the same time, some encouraging actions should be made, because I have this feeling that most of people ignore the merits they can give to others and even when they agree with a person they don't merit him/her.

DU18

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Though merit is not for sell but some people will do this business anyhow.I saw in local board people are wanting merit for btc.So it's really hard to stop those activities We should be fare and give any members smerits for.high quality posts.

I also noticed that some people are talking about just merit on Meta section seeking DT members attention to get merits.

Oilacris

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Merit: 609

Quote from: yojodojo21 on January 26, 2018, 08:46:06 AM

I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

P.S.
OP is not asking attention, read and understand. Obedience is better than sacrifice.

You cant avoid on the situation where there are really people who do tend to sell their merits since they do able to see that this is a thing which is valuable now for people in able for their ranks to go higher and instances on selling it out is there but i would say it would be useless since there are lots of eyes which would really check if somethings wrong on the merits being exchange of or being putted. Negative trust would be expected on this between the sender and receiver specially when the merits being accredited to a post which is total garbage and doesnt really worth of on putting a merit.

ngavanngo22

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Yes, it true but there are a lot of high rank member in this forum still try to sell or buy Merit point to get more money

). I think we no need to worry about this case cause these guys will be founded out and tagged by DT member or moderator in here.

. Right at the first day when Merit point published, I saw a Hero Member wanna sell all his 200 Merit for 1m$. LOL.

demonist

newbie

Activity: 224

Merit: 0

About the benefits or harm of Merit to judge early. A couple of months, look at the statistics. But while it is possible to say that the newbies became more difficult, as many earlier raised their rank by spamming messages and reports. And now to me would be at least a Member will take months and maybe more (.
P/S hope that the forum will become cleaner and more informative.

1Referee

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Quote from: Bitinity on January 28, 2018, 06:04:20 AM

Lets just use it when we find something that useful for us or for the community, avoid any merits sales and keep being active like before when there was no merits.

It's impossible to prevent Merit sales from happening. This forum is the main hotspot for people to earn money online, and for that reason will do everything to rank up. Whatever system ends up in place to 'avoid' spam and everything related to it, people are creative enough to work around it. It's basically a catch up game for people, where at some point, catching up will be achieved one way or another. At least I so far have seen a positive change in how people write their posts, so I will start looking at newbies and other lower ranked accounts more closely to reward their efforts. The more we reward people for their efforts, the less people will try to game the system - at least, that's how I look at it.

Bitinity

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Quote from: betlord90 on January 27, 2018, 05:48:49 AM

Quote from: lyledark10 on January 26, 2018, 10:45:09 PM

Quote from: yojodojo21 on January 26, 2018, 08:46:06 AM

I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

P.S.
OP is not asking attention, read and understand. Obedience is better than sacrifice.

We don't need to buy merits. Let's just make our post very useful and meaningful so that other user well send us merit because our post is constructive, useful, and meaningful. Don't buy merits because selling merit is not prohibited.

Theirs no reason to buy those merits really since we can actually earn it by posting some good quality posts and helpful ones, But we cannot please anyone to act fair since as we can see on meta their are series of events that merit system has been abused and their are guys who willing to buy it but if they found out buying it they will earned bad stake for their actions.

Its true we can earn merits by quality and useful posts but some people may face the problem to make it easily. That's why some people trying to sell merit because they know there will be some people interested to buy it especially for those who want to rank up easier without worrying about how to make good quality posts. I'm no so surprised to see some people try to sell or buy merits for their own purpose because some people has been discussing about it since the first day when theymos implemented this feature. Lets just use it when we find something that useful for us or for the community, avoid any merits sales and keep being active like before when there was no merits.

Findingnemo

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Quote from: Vannie12 on January 27, 2018, 08:57:51 PM

Come on guys, problems will not occur at the first place if everyone here just followed the instructions, rules and other guidelines.
Merit system is a good thing, at least we know devs are still concern about good members of this forum.
If they are cheating then be it and suffer the consequences.
I think the new system will also help confirming possible farm accounts.

Merit is implemented for good purpose and not for sale but some people misuse this merit to rank up if you make a good and quality post you will definitely get merit in short time so post good and quality topics otherwise you will not get merit point .

olushakes

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Activity: 476

Merit: 254

Quote from: LTU_btc on January 26, 2018, 10:36:55 AM

Quote from: yojodojo21 on January 26, 2018, 08:46:06 AM

I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

P.S.
OP is not asking attention, read and understand. Obedience is better than sacrifice.

Saddly, but many people are already selling/buying Merit points, for example here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-have-26-merits-buy-it-if-you-want-2827197
On local boards there are much more Merit sellers. There was people who got 20 or even 50 Merit for a low quality posts, it's obvious abuse of Merit system. Both, buyer and seller has to be reported to DT members and they will give them red trust rating.

People like that are those that continually make the effort of people trying to keep the forum decent and make it more accommodating frustrated because of their actions and they are the same people that flood the entire forum with posts that are not relevant and spams which led to serious of issues. Those people should not be allowed in saner society and even a Senior member rank and bold enough to open a thread for that, its surprising.

tricker01

member

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Quote from: yojodojo21 on January 26, 2018, 08:46:06 AM

I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

P.S.
OP is not asking attention, read and understand. Obedience is better than sacrifice.

Well for me this new merit system will really help this forum to improve more. And the admin will screen those good poster that really deserve the promotion. Althought its quite challenging for us , but I think its for the better change. Because we can improve ourself on how we can provide a good quality and how we can contribute for the improvement of this forum.

mersal

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Quote from: Vannie12 on January 27, 2018, 08:57:51 PM

Come on guys, problems will not occur at the first place if everyone here just followed the instructions, rules and other guidelines.
Merit system is a good thing, at least we know devs are still concern about good members of this forum.
If they are cheating then be it and suffer the consequences.
I think the new system will also help confirming possible farm accounts.

This new merit implementation is a good one to reduce useless posts and it is definitely not for sale or purchase it is one of the bad thought , the reason for the implementation of Merit is for good purposes so you cannot misuse this .

canaveralnonie

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Quote from: BillCoin on January 28, 2018, 01:01:19 AM

That's what I am afraid of.
That people are going to abuse the system by trading/selling Merit.
The wholr point of Merit is to show how quality are your posts, and if people will start exchanging merit , it will be impossible to know whether your post quality is high or not.
Also, I think that everybody should be starting from 0 merit, and people with higher rank shouldn't be getting a higher score.

Starting from 0 merit is a good point, but it's already done. So it's gonna be complicated to update all merit. Just imagine how many post of hero or legendary rank made for such a several year till now. For me, its fair enough since they have a starting merit based on their rank. But just wondering, what if you rank up? Do your merit add some?

BillCoin

sr. member

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That's what I am afraid of.
That people are going to abuse the system by trading/selling Merit.
The wholr point of Merit is to show how quality are your posts, and if people will start exchanging merit , it will be impossible to know whether your post quality is high or not.
Also, I think that everybody should be starting from 0 merit, and people with higher rank shouldn't be getting a higher score.

canaveralnonie

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Quote from: Indrawan77 on January 28, 2018, 12:42:39 AM

Quote from: canaveralnonie on January 28, 2018, 12:24:25 AM

Quote from: yojodojo21 on January 26, 2018, 08:46:06 AM

I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

P.S.
OP is not asking attention, read and understand. Obedience is better than sacrifice.

It's a bad thing to buy merit for some reason, but it's possible since some of the signature campaign required a high/additional merit as possible ( to add some additional payment sounds like promotion what ever ) . But if you are bright and a good minded bitcoiner, it's easy to have it since you have sense in every thing you want to add on different threads. Just look for some interesting topic and join trading ideas with them.

It's absolutely bad things and against the forum rules to buy or selling merits, merits maybe will be yhe requirement to join campaign, but the campaign manager will also check the quality of the post, so although you got the high merit but when the manager check your post quality maybe you wont be accepted either, so you need to earn your merit in a correct manner

Do they have some action/punishment to those who caught doing that kind of bad stuff? Or maybe some warning instead. But I think, it's gonna be additional work for all moderators and staff for sure. Good luck

Indrawan77

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Quote from: canaveralnonie on January 28, 2018, 12:24:25 AM

Quote from: yojodojo21 on January 26, 2018, 08:46:06 AM

I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

P.S.
OP is not asking attention, read and understand. Obedience is better than sacrifice.

It's a bad thing to buy merit for some reason, but it's possible since some of the signature campaign required a high/additional merit as possible ( to add some additional payment sounds like promotion what ever ) . But if you are bright and a good minded bitcoiner, it's easy to have it since you have sense in every thing you want to add on different threads. Just look for some interesting topic and join trading ideas with them.

It's absolutely bad things and against the forum rules to buy or selling merits, merits maybe will be yhe requirement to join campaign, but the campaign manager will also check the quality of the post, so although you got the high merit but when the manager check your post quality maybe you wont be accepted either, so you need to earn your merit in a correct manner

canaveralnonie

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Activity: 518

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Quote from: yojodojo21 on January 26, 2018, 08:46:06 AM

I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

P.S.
OP is not asking attention, read and understand. Obedience is better than sacrifice.

It's a bad thing to buy merit for some reason, but it's possible since some of the signature campaign required a high/additional merit as possible ( to add some additional payment sounds like promotion what ever ) . But if you are bright and a good minded bitcoiner, it's easy to have it since you have sense in every thing you want to add on different threads. Just look for some interesting topic and join trading ideas with them.

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