Topic: Merit system is not working, failed! - page 4. (Read 2678 times)

5 merits for ranking up to Junior member is easy requirement, so I think your idea doesn't make sense.

There are two ways to get merits.
One legal way is getting them from writing constructive, high quality posts/ topics, try to help as many other users (mostly newcomers) as possible. This is legal approach, and with this one I really think that 5 merits is possible task (might be reached easily with real constructive users).
Second illegal approach is buying merits from others or exchanging them with friends, etc. In the approach 5 merits mean nothing, and need seconds to get them.

As a result of those two reasons, I think that Theymos should ban ability to wear signature for Junior Members.

I get your point but still too early to give a conclusion like that, Merit System implemented just a few months from now so don't expect to see instant results. I understand if you think that rankings of all the members here in this forum seems stagnant because I already think that way but can't you see? This system provides solution against shitposting and for me that's great. Instead of focusing to the bad side of this system, try to look what benefits it could bring to us. Also, don't feel agitated, just stay calm and strive hard to adapt this system.

I really think this merit system do not benefit the forum!

I'm not seeing less spam. I still see a bunch of crappy posts!

This only affect the new comers that get demotivated because they can’t rank up and see crappy post from legendary being merited.

And the new threads "submit here your posts for my evaluation". This is not the goal! People should give merit because the posts deserve, not because someone asks!
This kind of threads should be banned! If you want to share your sMerit give it to posts that you read and thought useful, not to the ones who come and ask for it.
And the people that open this threads are the ones who receive more Merit!!!!! In my opinion they are killing merit system.

I have been paying some attention, because I'm about to "not" rank up due to lack of merit, and in the topics that I read (most altcoins) I do not see merit to anyone...
The section where you see more merit is Meta! Is this the section with good cryptocurrency posts?? I think not!

I usually write good posts, but people do not care to give merit to others!
I need 150 merit points and I do not know where I will get them!

I think I am valuable to the community!
I write some posts on Steemit and usually place the links on the related topics.
I help people whenever I can and know how to.
I report SPAM and SCAMERS.
I share with the community the news, new good Airdrops, new crypto related projects.
I give me opinion in speculation threads.

And with all this I only got 2 merit points since the system is implemented!

When something is implemented or changed to the systematic form initially some issues will be arising. One such is the recent merit trading for the purpose of getting into signature campaign. Now, those users getting tagged will let the rest of the users understand the tragedy behind such activity.

I do not think that there is  a need of demerit option. We are making conclusion just in one month but the merit system is designed in a very efficient way. With time passing by the default merit points will dry up. Then all the merits will originate from merit sources and thus there will be negligible chances of merits getting abused. Adding a demerit option will cause a lot of conclusions with signature campaigns as well. Adding and then removing applicants based on current merits/ranks will become a headache for the campaign manager.

The merit system have not failed. I feel if you make a quality post that solves someone problem merit may be given to you. Just make sure you work hard and obey the forum rules.

I think that this is a test run so far. I really like this ranking system. There will be less spam and flooding on the forum. It will be much easier to find the information you need. But unfortunately, the beginning is not very successful. The system of awards will need to be reviewed. We need to wait for a while. I am confident that in the future everything will be ok.

Nobody is happy with the merit system, out of Legendaries, because now you need to work hard to earn the right to rank up.
But it was absolutely necessary, and now the forum is a better place.
With some improvement (I think that the circulating merits are too few) it will achieve the goal.

The merit system needs some improvements, and Iì'm pretty sure that there will be soon some modifications.
But it has already achieved some big results, because shitposting has drastically diminished, and there is no more sense in having tens of accounts.
So, it's a very good think, even if I know that to grow up will be very difficult.
But also more precious.

I also think that the merit system is not working as it was supposed to do. Merit system came to develop our knowledge about information linked with different crypto currency. But unfortunately there are some people who use to sell merit. They offer you 100 merit at .1 BTC or many. (This information may not be true as I heard it. But I suppose that merit is being sold or else some low post also got merited). So, I suppose the main objective of merit had not full filled.

I think so. I think we need more time, merit system is basically very good for the forum. I just wait for the result, for now we better to be quite and try to master this change. Too early judgement  for this new system. We should have patience. The system is still new and people need time to accepting and to use it.

I see newbies and Jr. Members wearing signatures at least here in the Meta. You can see the OP of this topic as reference. I guess theymos removed the ability to add links to the signature but not the whole signatures.

Signatures had already been disabled for Jr members. Signature campaigns like 777 coin has removed all such participants already.

It is too early to tell if the merit system has failed. But in my point of view, this merit system has improved the kind of post that we are seeing now but not all though. The main purpose of this, is to eliminate post that are not helpful to the forum. I try not to use low quality post because we have no criteria how to distinguish one. 

As mentioned here:

There has been holes in the new system. Is that why the numbers of members have increased lately? And by these possibilities I think it wouldn't solve the overall problems of this community. Some problems have been resolved but new problems have been emerged as well.

Well I commended the Merit System for doing a great job eliminating those few problems, hope that we can think of something that could solve this one too.

Yeah this will solve part of the problem, 5 Merit and no sMerit for the existing jr. because they will distribute the Merit to the other alts.
Probably de-merit option in the hands of the merit sources will also be a good solution, so they can give penalties to the ones abusing the system.
In addition, less work for the Mods and Admins

Merit system it is good idea, but now it could be reason for one more issue:
Bounty hunters not able to increase their rank due merit system, but how they can increase profits? Answer is simple - you can create more accounts of Jr. Members. I feel that it is happening right now, you don't need to wait Full Member rank any more - just create 3 accounts of Jr. Members.
What we can get in nearest future? - the huge number of Junior multi-accouts and number of spam will increase, because you can not manage 10 accounts and keep the quality of posting. So number of accounts will increase and quality will decrease.

I propose to disable signatures for Jr. Members or implement Merit system for Jr. ranks (5 Merits for example).

We need to wait my friend. Merit system are in adjustment mode. There are thousand of users in the forum. Judgement is very hard if only few are entitled doing random check on searching quality post and giving free merits. We can't do nothing about it. Much better lets obey and wait for our turn to shine.

It's true people don't give out their merits most likely for free. But that shouldn't be a major concern as the merit system is not concerned about how fast a user can get a new rank. It's concern is about a users quality input. But I would say that if the system was to check a users input by themselves, it could be more better than vesting that single assessment right in individuals. Because by assessing users inputs themselves, everyone will have a fair treatment.

I think as newbie we should not worry about it. As respect to the admin of this forum, they know much better ways for the improvement of everyone. Merits system is good idea to combat spamming and shitposters accounts. We just need to wait for enough time so we can see the results. Too much complaining is not good.