Merit system is not working, failed! - page 5.

Pearls Before Swine

sr. member

Activity: 1190

Merit: 306

Quote from: OriginTrain on February 15, 2018, 11:18:53 PM

You know what irks me was the plethora of legendary shitposters since I joined the forum. I agree the rank should be rare, but it would be great if everyone had to re-earn their merit and the shitposters weren't grandfathered in so easily.

And you're frustrated because...?
You're envious because...?
Also I'm not sure why youre complaining because you have more merit than many users of your rank. If it was an easy thing to earn merits, the system wouldn't have been worth implementing. We're only in the second month here, and all the newbies are getting impatient instead of improving their output.

OriginTrain

full member

Activity: 406

Merit: 174

Quote from: Vod on February 15, 2018, 11:09:35 PM

Quote from: OriginTrain on February 15, 2018, 10:55:45 PM

Seriously? That's an absolute joke given how many active users there are in this forum. It's like squeezing a dried dish towel for a drop of water when you need a bucket of it. Even people that make frequent good posts that receive +1 merit will spend years for their next rank up. There are exceptions yes, but it's incredibly rare and will remain incredibly rare unless the merit system is drastically changed.

Let it remain incredibly rare then.

What good is a title of "Legendary" if it's common?

You know what irks me was the plethora of legendary shitposters since I joined the forum. I agree the rank should be rare, but it would be great if everyone had to re-earn their merit and the shitposters weren't grandfathered in so easily.

Vod

legendary

Activity: 3668

Merit: 3010

Licking my boob since 1970

Quote from: OriginTrain on February 15, 2018, 10:55:45 PM

Seriously? That's an absolute joke given how many active users there are in this forum. It's like squeezing a dried dish towel for a drop of water when you need a bucket of it. Even people that make frequent good posts that receive +1 merit will spend years for their next rank up. There are exceptions yes, but it's incredibly rare and will remain incredibly rare unless the merit system is drastically changed.

Let it remain incredibly rare then.

What good is a title of "Legendary" if it's common?

OriginTrain

full member

Activity: 406

Merit: 174

Quote from: mnich on February 01, 2018, 07:38:05 AM

Quote from: padcoin on February 01, 2018, 07:29:45 AM

The merit system is not working, look the merit points of people on the forum, it does not move (even for the more relevant posts), the forum established a system which was suppose to penalize newcomers flooding the forum with useless post, but the forum penalize itself, good luck everybody, If you think people will give you merit points for free you are mistaken.

You aren't right. Look at this stats: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=recent

Almost every minute here in forum is some post rewarded with merit.

Seriously? That's an absolute joke given how many active users there are in this forum. It's like squeezing a dried dish towel for a drop of water when you need a bucket of it. Even people that make frequent good posts that receive +1 merit will spend years for their next rank up. There are exceptions yes, but it's incredibly rare and will remain incredibly rare unless the merit system is drastically changed.

FlightyPouch

sr. member

Activity: 1638

Merit: 300

Quote from: najmul33 on February 11, 2018, 12:29:41 PM

I'm really happy new merit system because now no one can spamming the forum.

Spamming and Flooding posts will not stop as long as there are bounty campaigns here, it is not that no once can spam now but it is reduced due to the requirements of having a merit to rank up.

Quote from: najmul33 on February 11, 2018, 12:29:41 PM

now peoples here in the forum to improve their post, but only a few members are got merit from other,

There is a lot of people here that are trying to make their "quality post" but still not being merited, it will take time for them to received a merit, just be patient.

Quote from: najmul33 on February 11, 2018, 12:29:41 PM

I think this system only allows to Moderator, who can give merit in the quality post when they are verified.

I am not a moderator but I do get some merits to my post since I am spending my time constructing them. Consider that.

Quote from: najmul33 on February 11, 2018, 12:29:41 PM

because I say someone gives merit in bounty post

Well, it's they're own merit to spend and not yours.

Tipstar

sr. member

Activity: 1932

Merit: 300

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It's doing the job. I've seen lesser spam post and flooding though it'll take time to get used to the meriting system.

zaq130

full member

Activity: 280

Merit: 128

Quote from: DarkStar_ on February 11, 2018, 04:50:36 PM

Quote from: sash1801 on February 11, 2018, 04:45:57 PM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on February 06, 2018, 07:38:25 PM

Quote from: ichsan ardi on February 06, 2018, 07:24:51 PM

well, that just a new system.. too fast if u judge merit failed. we just dont know what is a criteria a good comment as merit need, that the problem. we think our comment was good, but maybe its not count as good comment in merit system.

And what you wrote here is a good example of a shitty 3rd world post by someone trying to write in a language they don't really know. What's the purpose of you writing this? It contributes nothing, even if you wrote it perfectly--which you very much didn't. Stick to the local boards. You're never going to get merit points by writing such drivel. You're the whole reason the merit system was created, IMO.

Sorry, but what about those who do not speak the language and use an interpreter.
those topics where you can earn in English
I only this year began to try to understand crypto. I'm sorry that real newcomers are poorly rewarded. and multiverse, they know how everything is arranged, and it will be easier for them

There are local sections for those who do not speak English. Please don't go the the English sections and use Google Translate, as that makes pointless hard to understand posts. There are merit sources in local sections as well.

If you are a "real newcomer" as in someone here not just to make money, your rank shouldn't be much of a concern for you, and you'll get merits as you learn.

>There are merit sources in local sections as well.

There is no merit source in Japanese local section.
That is the reason many people are stop sharing their information in Japanese local section.

If it is possible, could you make someone in Japanese local section a merit source?

DarkStar_

legendary

Activity: 2772

Merit: 3284

Quote from: sash1801 on February 11, 2018, 04:45:57 PM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on February 06, 2018, 07:38:25 PM

Quote from: ichsan ardi on February 06, 2018, 07:24:51 PM

well, that just a new system.. too fast if u judge merit failed. we just dont know what is a criteria a good comment as merit need, that the problem. we think our comment was good, but maybe its not count as good comment in merit system.

And what you wrote here is a good example of a shitty 3rd world post by someone trying to write in a language they don't really know. What's the purpose of you writing this? It contributes nothing, even if you wrote it perfectly--which you very much didn't. Stick to the local boards. You're never going to get merit points by writing such drivel. You're the whole reason the merit system was created, IMO.

Sorry, but what about those who do not speak the language and use an interpreter.
those topics where you can earn in English
I only this year began to try to understand crypto. I'm sorry that real newcomers are poorly rewarded. and multiverse, they know how everything is arranged, and it will be easier for them

There are local sections for those who do not speak English. Please don't go the the English sections and use Google Translate, as that makes pointless hard to understand posts. There are merit sources in local sections as well.

If you are a "real newcomer" as in someone here not just to make money, your rank shouldn't be much of a concern for you, and you'll get merits as you learn.

sash1801

jr. member

Activity: 168

Merit: 3

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on February 06, 2018, 07:38:25 PM

Quote from: ichsan ardi on February 06, 2018, 07:24:51 PM

well, that just a new system.. too fast if u judge merit failed. we just dont know what is a criteria a good comment as merit need, that the problem. we think our comment was good, but maybe its not count as good comment in merit system.

And what you wrote here is a good example of a shitty 3rd world post by someone trying to write in a language they don't really know. What's the purpose of you writing this? It contributes nothing, even if you wrote it perfectly--which you very much didn't. Stick to the local boards. You're never going to get merit points by writing such drivel. You're the whole reason the merit system was created, IMO.

Sorry, but what about those who do not speak the language and use an interpreter.
those topics where you can earn in English
I only this year began to try to understand crypto. I'm sorry that real newcomers are poorly rewarded. and multiverse, they know how everything is arranged, and it will be easier for them

iconzi

member

Activity: 207

Merit: 13

Quote from: Jet Cash on February 09, 2018, 07:37:05 AM

Quote from: iconzi on February 09, 2018, 07:23:31 AM

Quote from: Risktaker31 on February 09, 2018, 06:36:26 AM

The merit system is in the experimental phase and I think dev and moderators are keeping an eye on it and looking for some exploit in this new system that they established. As I see its pretty biased on those who are a higher rank than those on the lower rank, the gap in the merit can give and the merit you can get is extremely high and it'll be harder to get merits than you wait for your activity.

I agree with you. Besides why do everyone needs merits for? Just share your thoughts, do productive replies. and why care about your Rank in Forum? is it all about business?

Merits aren't just about removing a barrier to promotion. They can help members to determine which of their posts are approved or wanted by other members. If a topic doesn't get any merits or responses, then you should probably drop thst topic imho.

I agree with you. But to open a topic, Merit is must? I am fairly new to the forum and still learning about everything here. Cheers!

najmul33

full member

Activity: 476

Merit: 100

I'm really happy new merit system because now no one can spamming the forum. now peoples here in the forum to improve their post, but only a few members are got merit from other,

I think this system only allows to Moderator, who can give merit in the quality post when they are verified. because I say someone gives merit in bounty post

diemquy057

newbie

Activity: 96

Merit: 0

In fact merit given for high quality, constructive posts, NOT FOR FREE. And merit system was launched with original targets are reducing spamming in the forum; and turn the forum back as a place for discussions about Bitcoin and Altcoins.
Consequently, you will get no merit if you won't keep trying and contribute to the forum.

cryptocurrenciesboom

member

Activity: 420

Merit: 12

The Pure Proof-of-Tansaction [POT]

Quote from: Vod on February 08, 2018, 10:31:51 PM

Quote from: Cryptodiscuss on February 08, 2018, 07:25:01 PM

Im so sick of people who got their merit for free, talking about how its perfect! There are a lot of us who got trown under a train just because we got here a week or a month later! But 99% of you who talk how its good and bla bla bla didnt have to post anything else but bounties and you got full bags of merit for free and now preach us about constructive posts!!!

Hey bozo, you want to talk about my FIVE years of constructive posts, helping build bitcoin and the community?

I deserve what I received. I'll be glad when the merit system finally causes these drains on the forum to go away.

That's why the merit system does not work! You are a legend, you deserve it, by your activity it is visible to all. However, you for your "constructive" post have already received 2 merits, which in principle you absolutely do not need, and I do not see any information in it honestly. The only thing that those who sent you the merits are your friends, or people expect that you will also praise them in return.

jerry29@

jr. member

Activity: 206

Merit: 6

Yes! It may fail at some stages. but we have to wait before making any conclusion.
I also think that Some posts are very good in the forum. I internally want to give them the merit point, but i don't have.
And some posts are like that they get bulk of merit, but i can't understand why they have these merit points.
We are talking about merit system everyday about it flaws, it means definitely need some revision.
I think owner of this forum also take a look on our posts.
So we have to stop criticizing it, and give them the solution for the modification.
I personally think that everybody should provide with the equal opportunity whether it is junior member or hero/legendary.
But who says there will be no criticising then, We will not happy, if the things goes tougher and tougher.
making quality posts everyday is not the cup of cake. So they have to judge then on other factors.
I hope this forum become lively once again,where we have other topics to discuss rather than this merit system.

Crytptohack

member

Activity: 126

Merit: 15

HodL!

I think the merit system can be a deterrent/obstacle for some of the newer members, especially if they have contributed solid posts and have taken the time to produce quality replies and have received 0 merit.
We would all like to become a full member to participate with the bounties for a chance to accumulate a few coins. (Who knows if they will be worth anything...)

I started here a little before the merit system and it was implemented right when I became a Jr member. I feel that I've made some solid posts, but with 0 merit, it appears that people are hesitant to give the first one to someone that is new???

If a full member or above has a few minutes to check out a few my previous posts I would be grateful to hear feedback. (decent, good, bad???)

iqlimasyadiqa

legendary

Activity: 1596

Merit: 1011

Quote from: Boybob on February 09, 2018, 10:32:05 AM

i can feel you its really hard for us new in this forum to get merit but i think this is gonna be good for the forum i think the idea of this merit system is to change its focus instead of activity. we know its really easy to have an activity there's too many topic that you can easily reply you can even create a few accounts then make them reply 1 per day in any topic then they will rank up easily its only gonna take a months tadda you have few accounts that is is the same rank..
i think merit system gonna prevent the multiple account per person . it will change the focus instead to one account to post a high quality stuff

That is the reason for the merit system that many say is a big step to make the Bitcoin forum even better. As you said that now we all already feel some major changes, one of which is the reduction of activity of spammers and also scammers. In fact everyone at this time will be very difficult to be able to have multiple accounts. Merit has limited some of the risky things that can happen, this is a very helpful thing and I think people who can contribute to this forum will be able to get the appropriate appreciation.

This is an option and I think merit system is the best solution right now, a solution will produce something much better than before. If we have an opinion maybe we can send a pm to the administrator and we discussed it together. The most important thing is our goal is to make things better than ever before. So do the best and we must follow all the rules and regulations that already exist.

Boybob

newbie

Activity: 2

Merit: 0

i can feel you its really hard for us new in this forum to get merit but i think this is gonna be good for the forum i think the idea of this merit system is to change its focus instead of activity. we know its really easy to have an activity there's too many topic that you can easily reply you can even create a few accounts then make them reply 1 per day in any topic then they will rank up easily its only gonna take a months tadda you have few accounts that is is the same rank..
i think merit system gonna prevent the multiple account per person . it will change the focus instead to one account to post a high quality stuff

Cnut237

legendary

Activity: 1904

Merit: 1277

Quote from: waqasniaz007 on February 09, 2018, 12:18:28 AM

I had 238 activities when merit system was imposed and i only needed to activities to become Sr.Member. It was my bad luck but i am trying hard to improve my post quality.

This is the kind of positive attitude that we need! We must all work hard to post helpful, informative and insightful content. It will benefit us all in the end, and we will all distribute and receive merit accordingly.

Yes there may be a few teething problems along the way, but merit is a good addition to the forum, and I think any issues will be ironed out as we progress.

sarmrakib

full member

Activity: 1292

Merit: 101

Vave.com

Quote from: goncalvopietro on February 01, 2018, 08:35:29 AM

This system should definitely change. Merit points must be given unlimited because nobody wants to give Merit in these conditions.

I don't think so. If there is unlimited merit then it will be use badly. And the forum post will be worthless. So its perfect way to make forum as a good platform. If you will have something to write quality then you will have merit points.

Jet Cash

legendary

Activity: 2814

Merit: 2472

https://JetCash.com

Quote from: iconzi on February 09, 2018, 07:23:31 AM

Quote from: Risktaker31 on February 09, 2018, 06:36:26 AM

The merit system is in the experimental phase and I think dev and moderators are keeping an eye on it and looking for some exploit in this new system that they established. As I see its pretty biased on those who are a higher rank than those on the lower rank, the gap in the merit can give and the merit you can get is extremely high and it'll be harder to get merits than you wait for your activity.

I agree with you. Besides why do everyone needs merits for? Just share your thoughts, do productive replies. and why care about your Rank in Forum? is it all about business?

Merits aren't just about removing a barrier to promotion. They can help members to determine which of their posts are approved or wanted by other members. If a topic doesn't get any merits or responses, then you should probably drop thst topic imho.

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