Topic: Merit System Suggestion Update (Read 1067 times)

That limit is already set at 50 per month.

The OP clearly stated that this is not a whining about the merit system, So that I like the fact that this is only a suggestion.
I personally like the merit system too its an effective way to stop those farmers, on the other side I can see that the OP is right about sMerit system being the problem here.
I see those reply that it is hard for the admins to distribute the bounty and if its automatically distributed it can also cause spam and that right.
I think the best way for this problem is to assign high rank trusted members in distributing merits, 1 or 2 person in every section can monitor the post easily it is to appraise all those high quality and helpful content and no one will be ignored wether its high rank or low rank. In this way we can reduce the post about being unfair of the merit distribution and it can motivate new members to be a good member in the community.
-less spammer
-less farmer
- increases the quality of the post of each member
-less problem about whining (im sure that only shitpeople will still cry)
-fair to all
-no headache for the admins 

Actually things like that can be seen very clearly, I'm sure the mod here has a special formula to crack down on such things. In addition, our active role to report to the administrator becomes a very good thing, it can reduce the work burden and the target of unfair people will be easier to know. We want to create a system that is comfortable for everyone, it can be done if there is support from everyone. we as users of forums and mod as people who have the authority to crack down on unfair people and commit fraud to increase their merit point.

I don't agree with your suggestion. Don't make my opinion too harsh or negative because we have our own opinions. 

First, see how many admins do we have in this forum and with this number of users and the number of posts everyday they will not gonna do it. They will not check every thread every day and see if there is a merit-eligible post in that thread.

Second, I like the sMerit system because we can share our merits to everyone and at the same time we help them to rank up too. Yes there might be some users who are abusing it but as far as I know, there are some users here hunting the merit abusers and the admins punish them thru temporary ban or permanent ban.

When I first see this merit system, to be honest I said "What the f*** is this?" and I read theymos' post about the merit and I said again that "It will be harder for me to rank up". Several weeks later since the merit system has been added, I saw the benefits of this thru the meta thread. Many users were banned because of shitposting. Many shitposters probably left the forum and we don't care about them, we are just users of this forum. There are some users who abuse merit system and given a negative trust.

For me, I don't think that merit system needs to be tweaked or changed. I like how it is now.

P.S. I hope threads regarding merit will be stopped in the next weeks of the next months because its flooding the Meta Section. 

You are missing a point, my friend. You should read this one.
More mass merit farming

I agree the fact that there are many cheaters, merit farmers, merit exchangers who always try to cheat the young merit system to increase their merit points illegally. However, they will be tagged, reported and  banned sooner or later as you can see in the topic I show you.
Massive merit farmer was found and over 200 accounts banned immediately. I think this response is good for the forum. 

I agree 100% with this and with your suggestion. The way merit system is set up today is so much open to cheating and creating a circle of friends that are going to merit themselves even for the silliest thing published. I agree that only mods and admins should give merit.

Yes i agree with your statement especially on negative side of merit system. Thousand or morethan a thousand user of bitcoin here on this forum and i think the admin cannot check all of the quality post by the user

I strongly agree with this suggestion, the point is justice of giving merit to members of appropriate forum. There are some beginners who are knowledgeable and make quality posts but no one at least thinks they are worth a merit. Not that I am against this merit system. but, please do not ignore the beginners in this forum. I prefer if merit is given directly by admin!

Though the merit system is  a problematic one for you, it has developed the entire forum. Many guys have improved their quality posts. The number of spam posts have been reduced. People are driving to contribute quality posts to get merits though they don't expect. Smerits do get over. The smerit is not enough for ranks until Sr.Member. Once it gets over, we need to have patience to get the smerits. This would bring name and fame to your account. Your reputation would seriously grow in the forum.

We need to make a thing that is useful and quality posts too, without it then we will not get anything. While there are currently some people who are easy to get merit I am quite unsure that they are fully contributed. But in conclusion I think merit point has made the forum better. There are significant improvements in terms of quality, but as you can say that many people feel disadvantaged, they are people who can not contribute but want things like get merit. It is an interesting thing to always discuss, yes they are not trying to improve what they do by contributing to this forum.

My suggestion for the Merit system would be a hardfork for the Merit. 1 Merit = 100 merit cents.

Why? Because then posts that are not worthy of receiving a whole merit can also be highlighted somewhat.

What would that mean? Anyone could contribute with just a small amount.
However, a summary would have to be made on each post because the "merited by xxx" would be much longer.


A second suggestion would be to limit the number of merit points a user can receive from a single user.
For example, each user may give a maximum of 10 merits to another user within a certain period of time (2-4 weeks).
This would at least slow down people with secondary accounts to push merits back and forth.

Well, this is very Natural Thread to me i do consider it 50/50 5o% for Complain and 50% for appreciation.
Yes, it is so very Difficult to Receive merits from other merit sources, especially if you have nothing to contribute to the forum or the post you make is not interesting, specifically not constructive and Quality, if OP would be going to search the whole Forum members, maybe you will know "NULLIUS" The Smart Guy Which Deserves a Lot of Smerits.

I would take any topic started off with a title in FULL BLOCK CAPITALS with smallest pinch of salt.

I am just wondering is there any statistics of how many members ranked up since introduction of merit system?
I also think people scared to give merits.
Quality of posts is unfortunately not always rewarded with merits (I do not speak about myself).
There are many Newbie, Jr. Member who post very good with hope to receive some merits, but very rare they get some.

If I am a lucky, I will rank up till end of the year  

Here comes again the word merit system is on the air.
Look folks, we are all under on theymos control.
Not even one knows what's next.
All that we have is not enough to solve the problem.
It is given one solution starts more problems but at the end its purpose will prevail.
I hope so and I don't care, I think so and I care is the best line on the air. So far, so good on another.

you cannot judge a topic based on how many paragraphs contain the topic or how long it is written. If the number of words becomes a benchmark of merit giving, it will not change anything. Giving merit should be based on the quality of the topics that forum members write or a post they create, be it a long, or short, solid and clear topic. While the topic provides new and useful information, other members will certainly not hesitate to give you merit, not to mention the moderators in each topic.

The idea is good and reasonable but my opinion is "every suggestion and comment for the merit system now can only be worthy to consider after one year or shorter than that. "
Why because we know that merit system is just new and what we can contribute effectively is to support it through our best action in many ways.
Remember that through smerit many farmers were caught, in other words smerit is also existing with great purpose.

I am agree with this only merits no smerits. Smerits is become confliction as I browse many topics in the forum. This merit system become huge problematic topic for low rank members.
But I hope it will have some good moderation in the Future.

I think my suggestion will answer on your concern.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30206870

I've got your point and I appreciate it.


The quality of the post doesn't weigh with its length, sometimes no matter how lengthy your post are but the content were indirectly at point it may time-wasting for your reader.

 

To be exact 10 smerits will generate 17,5 merits in total or in other words 1 smerit will generate 1,75 merits.
 
The fact that the smerits will run out in closed loop does not mean that this is not a problem.

I understand that there are not a lot of admins here but on other hand if we take in account the wast amounts of money which is generated here in this forum, i cant understand why there cant be more admins or sub-admin paid vacancies and i can imagine that wont be hard to get some extra income from forum in order to be able to afford more " sub-admin" vacancies.