Topic: Merit System Suggestion Update - page 3. (Read 1040 times)

This means admins should have bigger fee's just by checking every boards they handle to accommodate your suggestion mate. But since its only a month after the effect of the merit system, so far  many people are accepting the system. If spammers and shitposter will continue, well we should still be patient because admins here are looking solutions to improve the forum for a clean discussions and communication for every members.

Here is why it is is not needed:

1) First of all regarding some members abusing the merit system, this will not last long. Soon all the default merit points will be spent. Then we will have merit points originating from the merit sources  and  really believe that they will be neutral to all members.

2) If this work is assigned to admin and staff, this will overburden them with more work. I have seen members not being able to get replies for their account being hacked due to staff being busy. We need to reduce the work load on the staff and not increase it.

For new here it set limitation and dissappointment because it so hard to get merit they have many question in their mind how merit will get and what  if they think their post is good but other way its  not good to other thats why i think merit is just a big big big problem to newbie and junior you will stuck forever to your level

It's pretty much Black Mirror, guys.

The admin has lots of things to do that take so much time. Spending time on reading posts of millions of users will take him a lifetime. Perhaps he could give this task to trusted members who could do it on his behalf. But still they could not fully read all of people's posts.

I know there are many qualified posts that do not have merits, but I think the day will come when they get awarded. Patience is required. If you want to get merits, be active and make high quality posts or else you will be left unnoticed.

One month is enough to conclude for a case study.  I don't think so admin here doesn't know what's going on in the forum as the Merit System implemented. I believe they are already in the process of improving it.  

All of the Systems have always a loophole and prone for abuses. Good thing is that those abuses are already came to light.

People in here often forget that this is a forum and there is a community in here, and a forum is a place where people gather and engage, not for working and to earn money. I do feel earning money from this forum is a great things and most of us will agree, i cant deny it, but if your brain only thinking of earning money from this forum, then you treat the forum wrong.

Scared of not making enough merit to rank up because you have no friends here? then make friends ! Engage with others, reply other post, comment other post, share your point of view on some topics, make a new interesting topic, etc. Make yourself as a part of a community, not as a worker who needs a rank. I believe if you change your point of view, merits will follow. You are not getting merits up until now is because your passion is to earn money in this forum, not to be a contributor for a community of this forum.


This is kinda a bias word. You can say adding that system is going to make the job a bit harder? I can say that it will be impossible for an admin to do that with so many boards in here and admin doesnt talks in every language of this world. Plus, it would make us harder to get more merits, because with your system then the admin will be a source right? Imagine we only have 1 source with 1 point of view, you think it will give us more merits? Even with 57 sources and 57 brains that think differently and have a different point of view we are still in need of more sources. So, think again.

That is indeed pretty unfair. That portion of your disappointment boils down to merit abused and it should be fixed as soon as possible.

Negative side, it is not just too hard for the mods but it is completely more impossible for them to track good posts. And if ever that they are the ones who will be sending a merit. A months of promotion may lead to a year or two.


There is nothing to argue with the positive side that youve stated


For the additional notes, You have to remember that not all good posts needs to have a one hundred paragraphs and not all shitty posts consists of a single or two liner posts. That will simply defeats the value of those users who does not participate on any signature campaign programs. Who are actually posting straight to the point and more meaningful.

I like the fact that you identified the flaws in your own suggestions. Considering the admi-to-member ratio it will be such an arduous task for admis to go around the nooks and crannies of the forum meriting people's post. what's more it was quite visionary to make all forum members part of the decision making body through the merit system. If we will all be honest and impartial, the merit system will stand the test of time.

We just optimize the merit system, I agree that the current merit system already has a real benefit. Merit has made this forum much better and has a better chat quality. Different than before, now merit can reduce spammers that always exist in many forums, we just wait for other real action. Currently merit also used as a benchmark to follow the signature campaign so that everyone will eventually be motivated to provide quality posts.

I do believe we have had enough of these complaint threads. There already are many with the exact same questions, statements and answers.
Also, several of these replies and that of the OP prove they have not read the main theymos thread nor understand how Merit works.
Stop with the never ending loop of garbage posts please.


Once again:

I like your idea as the concept is based on fairness but unfortunately this will over load the mods with a lot of work and I think the current merit system is okay as it more of a [SMAS] Signature Managers against Spam model that extends to all forum members regardless of whether you a sig participant or not thats trying to promote quality posts and also make ranking up to be based on merit 😀

I respect the merit system and I didn't see there's a problem of that, we must respect and obey the rules if you want to deserve merit. Don't be pressure about the merit requirement to rank up because you still earned money in this forum. Be patient and wait for the updated merit system's rules and regulations then hopefully there's a changes about merit requirement.

The merit system is great and all and it is helping to improve the post quality of many people and reducing the spam in the forum, but the only probelm with the merit system is that it could be unfair to some poeple who are actually posting good quality posts, because from what i have witnessed since the  release of this system, is that poeple give merits to memebers who are popular on the forum not because of their high quality post.

No, it is not too hard to get merits, you need to give the system some time for people to get used and for merit to flow.

No, you can´t make merit automatic and definitely not by length for two reasons:

a) Shitpost are many times short, but that does not make long posts necessarily good (see here if you don´t understand this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_logic

b) people would spend sleepless nights trying to find out how to hack the system.

No, you can´t overload the admins even more, as you say, it is already hard enough.

No, the problem is the forum has users who write English words like the above that make no sense, and they do this because it earns them money.  Those users need to get off this forum and not even mention the merit system.  It baffles me that OP got merit for his post.

Come on we who are not "One of the boys" can see whats going on here and unless you sing from the correct book
then you will see few merits because some like myself get banned and others not made from the right stuff get
chased off.

A simple look the the activity to merit ratio tells the story, look at mine and note that the OP fears a ban too.

Yes I really agree with you, I also feel burdened with this system.
at the beginning of this system people crowded smerit to good post but lately I see it is rare people who give smerit.Ini there must be a way out and action to be fair, because I think it will be very troublesome for the beginners who really want to work.

I like the merit system, I saw people complaining over merit system all over this forum.Even I am a newbie and I know I have to work a lot to establish myself into this forum or get into a higher rank. But I am not afraid of merit system. Because this will bring more out of me.
Only the Quality is countable here for higher rank.

People can mutually agree to send merits to each other and i believe that's going to be a problem as well. But i believe for the sake of people spamming the forum i think the merit system should stand until a more efficient way comes along.