Merit System Suggestion Update - page 2.

BitcoinGuruOne

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Quote from: GDragon on March 09, 2018, 08:54:01 AM

I think it will be a good idea, My suggestion is maybe they can add assistant moderator in this forum which having a huge amount of merits that can distribute to all deserving. We also know that moderators are busy and maybe this is the answer to that issue. Assistant moderator will be a big help to lessen people's that abuse merit and it can enhance the efficiency of the whole forum. It will be a tool to balance the system I guest.

If you do not know yet, there is something like this: there are special members, called merit sources. There are merit sources which were chosen at the start of the merit system and there are those who were given this status after they gave 10 quality post which were not merited before. This should in theory help with merit distribution but this does not help with 2 problems in my view.
1) The merit abuse between familar members and moreover between alternative accounts.
2) Also this does not help to clear threads from shit posts ( i believe that there should be merits given for example 10 successfully reported low quality posts but this on other hand would put an additional strain on moderators)

guschin

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Quote from: GDragon on March 09, 2018, 08:54:01 AM

I think it will be a good idea, My suggestion is maybe they can add assistant moderator in this forum which having a huge amount of merits that can distribute to all deserving. We also know that moderators are busy and maybe this is the answer to that issue. Assistant moderator will be a big help to lessen people's that abuse merit and it can enhance efficiency of the whole forum. It will be a tool to balance the system I guest.

I like it the current way only as it ensures that members are involved in the betterment of the forum. However, I think that number of merits in circulation per month need to be increase a lot . It should be at least 10 times the current supply and this can be easily done by allocating more merits to each merit source per month. I was able to get some merits when the merit system was new and I think it was from the senior members who must have given default merit points. Now that most have spent those, there is shortage of merit points in comparison to that time.

brotherwood12

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nice suggest , and i just worried about "farming merit system " and i think it happens for someone and he sell his account , and it make this system "not on the way "
i love your opinion about automaticly merit system and hope it can happen

GDragon

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I think it will be a good idea, My suggestion is maybe they can add assistant moderator in this forum which having a huge amount of merits that can distribute to all deserving. We also know that moderators are busy and maybe this is the answer to that issue. Assistant moderator will be a big help to lessen people's that abuse merit and it can enhance efficiency of the whole forum. It will be a tool to balance the system I guest.

ACVinegar

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Quote from: chokomenia on March 06, 2018, 11:34:52 AM

Obviously I know the merit system will improve the quality of post in the community and I believe in the future more people will start getting merit for quality post because by then a lot of established member will be award with merit source in different sections of the forum. So we all need to be patient and wait for the merit system to normalize.

Actually that's the best thing we can do for now, to wait to complete the merits we needed to ranked up. Since some of them are not too much smart like "nullius" the Jr. Member who gained almost 600 merits due to good sharing of ideas and information. I hope i gained like them in the future, that's why I do my best to earned a lot of merits but I guess it is not enough.

Don't worry fellas at the right time we were achieved the exact merits we needed to ranked up, so just continue posting good quality.

BitcoinGuruOne

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Quote from: franky1 on March 03, 2018, 03:24:08 PM

but yes if you see users getting lots of merit from certain users and those users got merits back of similar amounts within a certain time, (fake appraisals) then there should be a way to have their merit reduced especially if the posts are boring spammy non contributing quality

Exactly my point . i recently stumbled upon a OLD ANN thread which was created a year ago and what i saw was completely ridiculous.

The OP had received 250 merits for old, worthless ann, it is forgotten and none goes there. There was several huge merit transactions 40,50,50,40 and several smaller ,unfortunately i lost it as soon as i find it again, i will edit in this post.

chokomenia

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Obviously I know the merit system will improve the quality of post in the community and I believe in the future more people will start getting merit for quality post because by then a lot of established member will be award with merit source in different sections of the forum. So we all need to be patient and wait for the merit system to normalize.

solovev

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Quote from: Daboy_Lyle on March 06, 2018, 04:55:36 AM

Sad to say but there are 1498183 members on this forum. Do you think they can manage it all? Administrators and staff are few but they are doing there best. Yes, there's a problem with this merit system but majority of the merit system helps the forum or the newbies to become a good posters. Like me I'm just new to this forum, I agree that ranking up isn't not easy like before the update of this forum because every rank requires many merits to rank up.

It would have been possible to handle 1498183 members if we knew that they are going to be fixed. Problem is a lot of members are joining here everyday and that number is increasing every month. If you go through the forum stats, there had been exponential rise in that number. To handle so many members, most of the forums do not have manual inspection. But here the admin has come with the solution as merit system. Best thing about merit system is that most of the posts are kind of checked or evaluated by other members thus reducing the work of senior members.

intoy_victor

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Yes merit system brings a problem but the majority of the effect of merit system is helpful. Why? Because newbies have become more appropriate in posting topics or replying on topics.

Quote from: Daboy_Lyle on March 06, 2018, 04:55:36 AM

Sad to say but there are 1498183 members on this forum. Do you think they can manage it all? Administrators and staff are few but they are doing there best. Yes, there's a problem with this merit system but majority of the merit system helps the forum or the newbies to become a good posters. Like me I'm just new to this forum, I agree that ranking up isn't not easy like before the update of this forum because every rank requires many merits to rank up.

Quote from: Sasuke102001 on March 06, 2018, 02:54:42 AM

I agree to your suggestion but it would make the admins work more difficult, all the admins of the forum can't go and check every post of all the people in this forum there are many msny users. All the admins definitely would also have their own work to do, that can't just sit here whole day checking peoples posts and rewarding them merits right?

There are millions of users on this forum and the Administrator and staff are only few, let's take an advantage if they can manage it all for they can't but they where doing there best to manage this forum.

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Quote from: mikfresh on March 05, 2018, 05:21:30 PM

Quote from: Pearls Before Swine on March 03, 2018, 01:28:56 PM

You got 4 merits, OP. That's a lot more than many members with your awful command of the english language have gotten, and assuming you didn't buy those, you should consider yourself very lucky. What are you complaining about?

In case you haven't noticed, suggestions from newbies are falling on deaf ears. Rightfully so.

Look at me, I haven't earned a merit yet, and I'm not about to complain, because I'm not here to rank up and spam the forum.

You're not complaining cause you are a Senior Member, and you take advantage of your position by participating in signature campaigns. You don't need any more merit, you have a high rank already. On the hand I understand OP statements, I am a rookie too and a non native speaker, just like OP seems to me (pardon if I'm wrong). And I strive to receive merit, but i'm not complaining, I just will wait and do my best as always. My posts are probably not interesting enough, I accept it.
As of the system proposed by OP... I don't think it's actually possible, admins have a life too, and I don't think they earn a paycheck for their role of tutorship they perfectly do already. This would be too much to handle, imagine looking for quality comments in a post with 50 or more comments?
I don't know what can be done to improve the system, if I'll come up with something I'll be glad to share my opinion in a more useful way.

Indeed, if already a good enough member level has been calm and I feel there will be no big problem if indeed this merit is done, but it may be different from members who are still far away level and eager to be improved, it is obviously undeniable that feeling difficulty it will hit him (who does not want his rankings to change and want to be better). although everything is to be faced because this is a new rule. want to be patient

Daboy_Lyle

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Sad to say but there are 1498183 members on this forum. Do you think they can manage it all? Administrators and staff are few but they are doing there best. Yes, there's a problem with this merit system but majority of the merit system helps the forum or the newbies to become a good posters. Like me I'm just new to this forum, I agree that ranking up isn't not easy like before the update of this forum because every rank requires many merits to rank up.

Quote from: Sasuke102001 on March 06, 2018, 02:54:42 AM

I agree to your suggestion but it would make the admins work more difficult, all the admins of the forum can't go and check every post of all the people in this forum there are many msny users. All the admins definitely would also have their own work to do, that can't just sit here whole day checking peoples posts and rewarding them merits right?

Sasuke102001

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I agree to your suggestion but it would make the admins work more difficult, all the admins of the forum can't go and check every post of all the people in this forum there are many msny users. All the admins definitely would also have their own work to do, that can't just sit here whole day checking peoples posts and rewarding them merits right?

Quickseller

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Quote from: 1993jochico on March 03, 2018, 01:09:49 PM

My suggestion
Why dont make it like this, No sMerit system only MERIT system and only admins can send merit to a post so that it will be fair for all and less the job of admin by checking someone send merits to another if its a farm account.
In this system no one can play the merits only the admins.

There are only two admins, and are hundreds of thousands of accounts that post every day. The sending of merit absolutely must be delegated, and there must be the ability of the community as a whole to sent merit to the rest of the community.

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What if people who has a lot of sMerit make another account and send merit to his/her own account to rank up for farming, newbies here like me get hard times to gain merits and it is not fair to newbies like me.

There is a limit to how much merit you can send with your sMerit, which is roughly double your sMerit if you are sending it back and fourth to yourself. So if you are farming merit by sending to yourself, you will eventually run out of sMerit unless you are (colluding with) a merit source, or you are otherwise making posts that others award merit for.

TMAN

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Quote from: TMAN on March 05, 2018, 11:51:03 PM

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Every single rule still got a problem .
Until now , i'm not delight with this merit system , too much vulnerable .

First of all , sell merits system to make money , rich get richer
Secondly , buyer need it enough to do bounty . So , no need to contribute quality post anymore .
Thirdly , too much post/comment that merit sources or mod/admin ,... can't check in a day . Consequently , they give up about using their time for writing quality post/comment .
Finally , after merit system was born , anyone who achieved a rank before , they obviously received merit points equal their rank .

I see unfair here .

Please post in your local section and learn how to communicate in English and come back in 6 months. Bounties, sig campaigns are a privilege not a right

My native language is not supported anymore , sir .

Then go and Learn how to communicate in English, until then read read read... you have two hopes of earning merit if you dont.. Bob Hope and No Hope...

EDIT - the user sent me this PM

Quote from: mightwalker on March 06, 2018, 06:25:20 AM

what do you mean when say :" Learn how to communicate in English " .

Can you make it clear Huh

I mean really!

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Quote from: mikfresh on March 05, 2018, 05:21:30 PM

You're not complaining cause you are a Senior Member, and you take advantage of your position by participating in signature campaigns. You don't need any more merit, you have a high rank already. On the hand I understand OP statements, I am a rookie too and a non native speaker, just like OP seems to me (pardon if I'm wrong). And I strive to receive merit, but i'm not complaining, I just will wait and do my best as always. My posts are probably not interesting enough, I accept it.
As of the system proposed by OP... I don't think it's actually possible, admins have a life too, and I don't think they earn a paycheck for their role of tutorship they perfectly do already. This would be too much to handle, imagine looking for quality comments in a post with 50 or more comments?
I don't know what can be done to improve the system, if I'll come up with something I'll be glad to share my opinion in a more useful way.

You like reading my mind, have exactly the same opinion about this whole topic. Nothing we can do, only do our best to improve the system, put more effort in writing quality posts and read others. So many of us just see the interesting topic and hurry on replying without bothering to read anything except the topic starter's post and maybe one or two below it. So many good posts could be lost between, which deserve to be recognized.

Saveplus

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Since the merit system was made its hard to rank up but following their rules even though its hard to have merits we need to make a quality post to get merit from others .We dont have a choice because this is their regulations ,all we have to do is to improve ourself in forum.Hopefully the admin would set another rules for merit to be easily get.

TMAN

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Every single rule still got a problem .
Until now , i'm not delight with this merit system , too much vulnerable .

First of all , sell merits system to make money , rich get richer
Secondly , buyer need it enough to do bounty . So , no need to contribute quality post anymore .
Thirdly , too much post/comment that merit sources or mod/admin ,... can't check in a day . Consequently , they give up about using their time for writing quality post/comment .
Finally , after merit system was born , anyone who achieved a rank before , they obviously received merit points equal their rank .

I see unfair here .

Please post in your local section and learn how to communicate in English and come back in 6 months. Bounties, sig campaigns are a privilege not a right

Mame

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Quote from: 1993jochico on March 03, 2018, 01:09:49 PM

My suggestion
Why dont make it like this, No sMerit system only MERIT system and only admins can send merit to a post so that it will be fair for all and less the job of admin by checking someone send merits to another if its a farm account.
In this system no one can play the merits only the admins.

I think it is good if only admin having unlimited smerit to be fair because as we can see some of the members who have lots of smerit they taking advantage to send it to their alt to rank up they do not review other post of other members to toss even single merit they have. Much better if only admin will gives merit to us it will gives more inspiration and it will be a motivation to continue contributing knowledgeable post to help the other members because admin recognize what you did.

Vannie12

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Well, if you are suggesting this in behalf of the noobs then I would consider you as a concerned user for fair distribution of the merit points.
Though what you stated are relatively true, it does look like it will be a additional workload for moderators which I can see will be a greater problem since there are only few of them.

I thin you should not worry much of yourself, if you wanted merits system to function smoothly, then continue doing quality posts and when you reach the rank that can disseminate merits too then review posts and merit those who deserve it.
That is one way of contributing too.

mikfresh

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Quote from: Pearls Before Swine on March 03, 2018, 01:28:56 PM

You got 4 merits, OP. That's a lot more than many members with your awful command of the english language have gotten, and assuming you didn't buy those, you should consider yourself very lucky. What are you complaining about?

In case you haven't noticed, suggestions from newbies are falling on deaf ears. Rightfully so.

Look at me, I haven't earned a merit yet, and I'm not about to complain, because I'm not here to rank up and spam the forum.

You're not complaining cause you are a Senior Member, and you take advantage of your position by participating in signature campaigns. You don't need any more merit, you have a high rank already. On the other hand I understand OP statements, I am a rookie too and a non native speaker, just like OP seems to me (pardon if I'm wrong). And I strive to receive merit, but i'm not complaining, I just will wait and do my best as always. My posts are probably not interesting enough, I accept it.
As of the system proposed by OP... I don't think it's actually possible, admins have a life too, and I don't think they earn a paycheck for their role of tutorship they perfectly do already. This would be too much to handle, imagine looking for quality comments in a post with 50 or more comments?
I don't know what can be done to improve the system, if I'll come up with something I'll be glad to share my opinion in a more useful way.

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