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Topic: Merits Tree - Monthly Results - page 6. (Read 9956 times)

legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 4711
**In BTC since 2013**
July 09, 2022, 07:07:27 AM
#27
To me, what is immediately clear with these trees is the number of merits that are "lost" being sent to users not circulating their received merits.

I will also try to improve the way of filtering, because in some cases, 50 merits may be given to active users, but they do not appear in the list.
They don't appear, because the file only captures the first 3, so the 4th place can be an active user who has also received 50 merits, for example.
I have to study the best way to filter the information, for him to readjust this situation.



Another option will be to ignore users who don't send merits. Do you think it makes sense for me to do this?
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 16328
Fully fledged Merit Cycler - Golden Feather 22-23
July 09, 2022, 05:44:39 AM
#26
To me, what is immediately clear with these trees is the number of merits that are "lost" being sent to users not circulating their received merits.
There are much more sMerits "lost" by Merit sources who don't empty their source completely (myself included in the past months). So if I'd send 50 sMerit to satoshi (which I'm not planning to do, but bear with me for the sake of argument), there's not a single sMerit lost from circulation. If I don't send them, they "expire" because they won't be replenished 30 days later.
From a Merit source's perspective, sMerit isn't scarce. So I can just as well Merit good posts from inactive users.

I reiterate the concept that everyone is free to find their best meriting strategy and I don't want to judge anything.

From my point of view, the first meriting criterion is the effort put into writing a post, hence a post from an active user is worth being merited. And a lot of Hal and Satoshi posts are extremely worth it in this sense.

The second criterion I take into account is the possibility that my sMerits become sMerits again down the "Merits tree".
In this case, I tend to give more merits I know will spend their sMerits.
This is just me.
I don't think sending merits to an inactive user is better, from an aggregate point of view, than letting my merit source sMerits expire.
For sure I am trying my best to exhaust my sMerits allocation every month, as a Merit source I think it is one of my "duties" toward the forum. Again, not using this as a measure of "worthiness".
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
July 09, 2022, 05:31:43 AM
#25
To me, what is immediately clear with these trees is the number of merits that are "lost" being sent to users not circulating their received merits.
There are much more sMerits "lost" by Merit sources who don't empty their source completely (myself included in the past months). So if I'd send 50 sMerit to satoshi (which I'm not planning to do, but bear with me for the sake of argument), there's not a single sMerit lost from circulation. If I don't send them, they "expire" because they won't be replenished 30 days later.
From a Merit source's perspective, sMerit isn't scarce. So I can just as well Merit good posts from inactive users.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 16328
Fully fledged Merit Cycler - Golden Feather 22-23
July 09, 2022, 05:09:32 AM
#24
To me, what is immediately clear with these trees is the number of merits that are "lost" being sent to users not circulating their received merits.
It happened to me in the past to merit bomb Hal or Satoshi, but it was more a "once in a while" occurrence, but as a merit source i "penalise" active users not redistributing merits I send to them.

Everyone is free to send merits to whoever she wants, but I think the evidence of these trees is striking.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 4711
**In BTC since 2013**
July 08, 2022, 01:27:50 AM
#23
It would be interesting to know whether the top 20 are all merit sources and how much they each sent in total (in the current month)!
I just checked number 20 nutildah and he did roughly 300. Since I only get around 300 merit (150 sMerit) in a month, there will be no way for me to reach the top 20 anytime soon unless I can double my merit gains to 600+/month. Tongue

He really gave a lot of merits, compared to those received. If it is not a source of merit, it may have many merits accumulated.  Roll Eyes

It will be noted, that he can also give a lot of merits before, but not enough to reach the top20 or had the same number of merits given as another who was in the top and no longer appeared.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 5834
not your keys, not your coins!
July 07, 2022, 09:05:57 PM
#22
It would be interesting to know whether the top 20 are all merit sources and how much they each sent in total (in the current month)!
I just checked number 20 nutildah and he did roughly 300. Since I only get around 300 merit (150 sMerit) in a month, there will be no way for me to reach the top 20 anytime soon unless I can double my merit gains to 600+/month. Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 4711
**In BTC since 2013**
July 05, 2022, 03:39:55 PM
#21
Merits Tree
June '22


Small Summary:
Starting this month, I will try to make a small summary of the merits tree.
It's the second time that @fillippone is in first place of who gave the most merits.
This month two users entered that had not yet appeared in the top20: @qwk @nutildah

Description:
FIRST USER > TOP THREE OF FIRST USER (NO. MERITS RECEIVED FROM PREVIOUS LEVEL) > TOP THREE OF SECOND USERS (NO. MERITS RECEIVED FROM PREVIOUS LEVEL)
List Order:
From the first user with the most merits given this month, to the number 20th user with the most merits given.



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► fillippone (14)
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 4711
**In BTC since 2013**
June 15, 2022, 06:23:01 PM
#20
Merits Tree
May '22


Description:
FIRST USER > TOP THREE OF FIRST USER (NO. MERITS RECEIVED FROM PREVIOUS LEVEL) > TOP THREE OF SECOND USERS (NO. MERITS RECEIVED FROM PREVIOUS LEVEL)
List Order:
From the first user with the most merits given this month, to the number 20th user with the most merits given.



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►N/A
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 4711
**In BTC since 2013**
May 12, 2022, 06:09:31 PM
#19
Merits Tree
April '22


Description:
FIRST USER > TOP THREE OF FIRST USER (NO. MERITS RECEIVED FROM PREVIOUS LEVEL) > TOP THREE OF SECOND USERS (NO. MERITS RECEIVED FROM PREVIOUS LEVEL)
List Order:
From the first user with the most merits given this month, to the number 20th user with the most merits given.



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►N/A
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 4711
**In BTC since 2013**
April 05, 2022, 06:27:41 PM
#18
I am in the merit tree, not as a tree but as a branch of the tree. I think the main tree is Slow death who gave me 8 merits at a spot. I believe that is the reason that I am here in the tree. Doesn Slow death (24) mean that Slow death sent 24 merits, Uchegod-21 recieved 8, Cookdata recieved 8 and Mr.right85 recieved 5? I know I sent Mr.right85 merits that ranked him upto full member, does it have anything to do with why he is next to me in the tree?

Only the twenty users who gave the most merits during that month are shown.


But I will be happy to introduce your tree. Wink
Here it is:

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► Zilon (7)
hero member
Activity: 1036
Merit: 625
BTC, a coin of today and tomorrow.
April 05, 2022, 05:27:04 PM
#17
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 16328
Fully fledged Merit Cycler - Golden Feather 22-23
April 05, 2022, 04:05:56 AM
#16

Your first Tx in march to @babo in march was on 2022-03-01 09:43:51.000, and your last on 2022-03-31 10:59:58.000. The last TX, which awarded 3 sMerits, was outside the 30 day window "down to the second" if we start counting on the first of March, but if we add all the sMerits sent in March, the 3 sMerits get added, totalling 53 sMerits sent to @babo during March 2022.


This makes sense. 31 calendar days for the merit tree, but 30 days “to the second” to be observed for the merit cap. Hence a little leeway is left open to surpass the 50 mark  on  31 days months.
legendary
Activity: 3696
Merit: 4343
The hacker spirit breaks any spell
April 05, 2022, 02:20:01 AM
#15

They didn't all fit in your tree.  Wink

this is me after i read this phrase

I had thought of even more powerful jokes, to make fun of Fillippone
but I gave up, I'm happy to ruin his merits record
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 10802
There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
April 05, 2022, 02:16:09 AM
#14
<…> I tought there were an hard cap to 50 merits per users over 30 days. Probably there is an explaination for this. If you notice it is the first time you see 50+ numbers.
There is a cap of 50, counting the number of sent sMerits down to the second within the 30 day window (so it’s really a 30 day/min/sec window).

Your first Tx in march to @babo in march was on 2022-03-01 09:43:51.000, and your last on 2022-03-31 10:59:58.000. The last TX, which awarded 3 sMerits, was outside the 30 day window "down to the second" if we start counting on the first of March, but if we add all the sMerits sent in March, the 3 sMerits get added, totalling 53 sMerits sent to @babo during March 2022.

See: https://public.tableau.com/shared/XHP4TQW5R?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

(note: TXs on my Dashboard dated 21/03/2022 09:44 indicate 3 sMerits per Tx, even though visually the Dashboard only shows one of the values - it doesn't copy all the field with repeated values when reading from left to right)
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 4711
**In BTC since 2013**
April 05, 2022, 02:00:51 AM
#13
I tought there were an hard cap to 50 merits per users over 30 days. Probably there is an explaination for this. If you notice it is the first time you see 50+ numbers.

Generally, I rarely saw above 50 of assigned merits.

I went to check, which sometimes could have been a mistake on my part, and counting manually you gave him like 17 times 3 merits at a time and one 2 merits.
Is it related to having given merits separately?
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 16328
Fully fledged Merit Cycler - Golden Feather 22-23
April 04, 2022, 11:26:11 PM
#12

2. I'm using LoyceV data, which was updated until 01-04-2022: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59748738

Ouch, you are right. And I am late for my monthly recap then!


3. You are the one who gave +50 merits to these users. Why? You are the one who knows why you have given these merits to these users.  Roll Eyes

I tought there were an hard cap to 50 merits per users over 30 days. Probably there is an explaination for this. If you notice it is the first time you see 50+ numbers.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 4711
**In BTC since 2013**
April 04, 2022, 06:45:25 PM
#11
Hey mate, a few questions for you:
  • I am pretty sure that I maxed more than those 3 users. How do you select which do appear on the tree?
  • In addition to that, which data dump are you using for this? If you are using LoyceV data, then March data still is not complete!
  • Last but not least, I am not sure how it is possible to merit more than 50 merits to a used per 30 days...

Hey,

1. Yes, you send merits to more users. But these three were the ones who received the most. Or, if others received the same number of merits, these were the first three to be listed, that's all. The criterion is the top 3, of those who received the most merits. If there are repeaters, the system chooses only 3.

2. I'm using LoyceV data, which was updated until 01-04-2022: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59748738

3. You are the one who gave +50 merits to these users. Why? You are the one who knows why you have given these merits to these users.  Roll Eyes You gave 50 merits to these users and others, such as:
  n0nce
 Plutosky
 duesoldi
 El duderino_

They didn't all fit in your tree.  Wink
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 16328
Fully fledged Merit Cycler - Golden Feather 22-23
April 04, 2022, 05:46:39 PM
#10
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 4711
**In BTC since 2013**
April 04, 2022, 02:59:56 PM
#9
Merits Tree
March '22


Description:
FIRST USER > TOP THREE OF FIRST USER (NO. MERITS RECEIVED FROM PREVIOUS LEVEL) > TOP THREE OF SECOND USERS (NO. MERITS RECEIVED FROM PREVIOUS LEVEL)
List Order:
From the first user with the most merits given this month, to the number 20th user with the most merits given.



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► fillippone (34)
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 4711
**In BTC since 2013**
March 12, 2022, 07:05:33 AM
#8
Do you have any software used to make this tree from loycev data? Or you just browse and copy paste those data manually?

That's lot of effort to do if doing this manually.
Indeed nice information shown. Thanks.

I take the LoyceV data and paste it into an Excel file that I developed for this purpose. Then, I define some filters and just change the user's name for it to appear the data referring to that user. And I even configured the format in BBCode, so that it is practically copy-paste.

So it's almost just copy-paswt, although it does involve some manual work. But it turns out to be relatively fast.

What took the longest was developing the Excel file. Which maybe takes almost a month to get the operational por.


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