Can you explain how your hash rate estimation differs from the Coinish.com calculator? I punched in some numbers for the KnC Jupiter and depending on delivery date and scarily enough, didn't even break even. I threw in the 10% fee to approximate hosting + pool fee:
http://imgur.com/p5YrFkY
I suspect the 1.3% difficulty increase per day may not be sustainable?
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Flipped Jally back to shipping.. it really looks like they are trying. I hope they keep it up.
Looks like KnCMiner is on top again after raising their estimated GH/s by 14%.
also please check this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2592834
ETA for bitfury asic is now in October.
Looks like KnCMiner is on top again after raising their estimated GH/s by 14%.
Thanks! I was just about to post about my article 
http://decentralizedhashing.com/2013/06/bitcoin-manufacturer-kncminer-finalizes-miners/
Table updated.
http://decentralizedhashing.com/2013/06/bitcoin-manufacturer-kncminer-finalizes-miners/
Table updated.
New tentative performance numbers from KnCMiner, just FYI.
Ah, looks like I need to go through everything on the list and then see if there are any other possible candidates.
Thanks Canary
edit: Almost done, I found a couple things on my first look through. Thanks to everyone helping me keep updated. It looks like we're on track.
Thanks Canary
edit: Almost done, I found a couple things on my first look through. Thanks to everyone helping me keep updated. It looks like we're on track.
Cleaned and alphabetized table and links here.
Please update. price for ASICMiner USB Eruptor Miner has been reduced to .99 btc So what your table seems to show is not many of the currently planned units are forecast to make profit or if so for a short period of time. There are many factors that could easily change those figures however it doesn't encourage someone to place any new orders with any of these guys. Unless the profit is not to come from actual mining but flipping pre-orders, group buy shares etc.
In any case thanks for researching and providing this data it does help in making decisions. If its not too late yet feels like it will be by the time I figure all this out
It looks like there are some people getting miners and maybe some chips at this point. As soon as I get back I'll start looking around again to see if I can put some more green on the chart. If Avalon starts delivering that would make a huge swath.In any case thanks for researching and providing this data it does help in making decisions. If its not too late yet feels like it will be by the time I figure all this out
Even ones that you think will have around 0 ROI may be worth buying. Especially since this is just for the first year. Some people really want to mine, and even if they only get as much bitcoin as they might from just buying them directly they'll have more fun with the computer.
I appreciate the effort, any way you could make a similar list for the DIY bring-your-own-chips developers based on their full assembly costs (minus chip cost)?
SebastianJu has a great list that shows this information very clearly. I actually was very close to making a separate list until I found his. It's in the same category as this one. (Custom Hardware) 
I appreciate the effort, any way you could make a similar list for the DIY bring-your-own-chips developers based on their full assembly costs (minus chip cost)?
So what your table seems to show is not many of the currently planned units are forecast to make profit or if so for a short period of time. There are many factors that could easily change those figures however it doesn't encourage someone to place any new orders with any of these guys. Unless the profit is not to come from actual mining but flipping pre-orders, group buy shares etc.
In any case thanks for researching and providing this data it does help in making decisions. If its not too late yet feels like it will be by the time I figure all this out
In any case thanks for researching and providing this data it does help in making decisions. If its not too late yet feels like it will be by the time I figure all this out
lol.. yeah thanks. I've had to change their info twice now because I had to revert to an old version of spreadsheet.
the Terrahash "4.5GH/sec" will do 90000MH/s (aka 90GH/s)
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wat
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wat
While I appreciate your work making this,
some of your calculations are just dumb.
Are you getting paid or something to put soo much dissinfo?
Wow, ok. I forgot to multiply chip cost by USD before adding it in.some of your calculations are just dumb.
Are you getting paid or something to put soo much dissinfo?
While I appreciate your work making this,
some of your calculations are just dumb.
Are you getting paid or something to put soo much dissinfo?
example:
sensei k64 18048MH/s for 3.09BTC (total nonsense as this is without chips)
real price is 3.09BTC for assembly and 64x0.079=5.056BTC for chips (best case)
3.09+5.056=8.146BTC
18048/8146=2.21Gh/s per BTC and not 5.848GH/s per BTC
rant off.
some of your calculations are just dumb.
Are you getting paid or something to put soo much dissinfo?
example:
sensei k64 18048MH/s for 3.09BTC (total nonsense as this is without chips)
real price is 3.09BTC for assembly and 64x0.079=5.056BTC for chips (best case)
3.09+5.056=8.146BTC
18048/8146=2.21Gh/s per BTC and not 5.848GH/s per BTC
rant off.
Thankfully someone noticed this because of obvious miscalculations in missing chips.
Sorry for going off on you andrewsg. I didn't eat right this morning, I think it had much more to do with that than anything you said.
No worries, I appreciate the effort that goes into this and only want to see it improve.
Speaking of which, erm, sensei.
While I appreciate your work making this,
some of your calculations are just dumb.
Are you getting paid or something to put soo much dissinfo?
example:
sensei k64 18048MH/s for 3.09BTC (total nonsense as this is without chips)
real price is 3.09BTC for assembly and 64x0.079=5.056BTC for chips (best case)
3.09+5.056=8.146BTC
18048/8146=2.21Gh/s per BTC and not 5.848GH/s per BTC
rant off.
some of your calculations are just dumb.
Are you getting paid or something to put soo much dissinfo?
example:
sensei k64 18048MH/s for 3.09BTC (total nonsense as this is without chips)
real price is 3.09BTC for assembly and 64x0.079=5.056BTC for chips (best case)
3.09+5.056=8.146BTC
18048/8146=2.21Gh/s per BTC and not 5.848GH/s per BTC
rant off.
Thankfully someone noticed this because of obvious miscalculations in missing chips.
Sorry for going off on you andrewsg. I didn't eat right this morning, I think it had much more to do with that than anything you said.
No worries, I appreciate the effort that goes into this and only want to see it improve.
Speaking of which, erm, sensei.
While I appreciate your work making this,
some of your calculations are just dumb.
Are you getting paid or something to put soo much dissinfo?
example:
sensei k64 18048MH/s for 3.09BTC (total nonsense as this is without chips)
real price is 3.09BTC for assembly and 64x0.079=5.056BTC for chips (best case)
3.09+5.056=8.146BTC
18048/8146=2.21Gh/s per BTC and not 5.848GH/s per BTC
rant off.
some of your calculations are just dumb.
Are you getting paid or something to put soo much dissinfo?
example:
sensei k64 18048MH/s for 3.09BTC (total nonsense as this is without chips)
real price is 3.09BTC for assembly and 64x0.079=5.056BTC for chips (best case)
3.09+5.056=8.146BTC
18048/8146=2.21Gh/s per BTC and not 5.848GH/s per BTC
rant off.
Hi,
So I see that sensei is charging for K16 pcb+assembly - Amount BTC per board ? He is going to pay you if send him your chips
So I see that sensei is charging for K16 pcb+assembly - Amount BTC per board ? He is going to pay you if send him your chips
Sorry for going off on you andrewsg. I didn't eat right this morning, I think it had much more to do with that than anything you said.
Terrahash has changed there prices to USD, maybe you should change from BTC to USD on the list too?
And a personal question, if you don't mind.
What miners have you invested in?
Unfortunately I took a year off after losing my wallet and not being able to get the GPU's I needed to update my farm. Otherwise I would have put money into Avalon and BFL. I am considering putting an order in with TerraHash when they open. I don't have an order in with KnCMiner, but I've considered it. Everything changes when chips start chipping or someone proves a product and can ramp up production. And a personal question, if you don't mind.
What miners have you invested in?
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