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March 23, 2018, 08:46:02 AM
well, the times for good profits, when a miner could earn 5-7$ per day from gtx 1080ti is long over
gladly I was able to ROI all may rigs, so I'm really OK with today's profits 1-1.5$  per card
will wait when profits will start to cone back again  ( 5- 6 month)

I get about 3.5-4 dollars per 1080 TI right now. That's not what it used to be but again it is a hell of a lot better than most.

Yeah, still 1080Ti is the best!
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Activity: 213
Merit: 101
March 23, 2018, 08:41:35 AM
well, the times for good profits, when a miner could earn 5-7$ per day from gtx 1080ti is long over
gladly I was able to ROI all may rigs, so I'm really OK with today's profits 1-1.5$  per card
will wait when profits will start to cone back again  ( 5- 6 month)
I get about 3.5-4 dollars per 1080 TI right now. That's not what it used to be but again it is a hell of a lot better than most.
Yeah, 1080ti have fallen heavily, but hope it rocks when the market recovers
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Merit: 15
March 23, 2018, 08:07:39 AM
The only thing that matters in mining is the time of selling your coins.. If you mine and keep your coins until ETH goes back to 1000$ you hit the bingo... You should NEVER watch what is the best coin to mine at current prices... (you should only if you are selling coins right away into $) This is the thing most miners are not capable to think about it.. Thats why every 3rd guy is crying about how shitty is to be a miner nowadays Smiley

nice!!! because i also laugh at people that mine shitty coins believing in their project, putting electricity costs on top with no instant profit, while they say: hey!! i'm getting a lot of (shitty) coins . If it goes up i will be rich!!!

Normally, that doesn't occur. Good luck mining alt coins. you´ll need it.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
March 23, 2018, 08:00:12 AM
Fortunately that I have Baikal Giants+, which makes about $4 now and it was much better ... Lucky buy
sr. member
Activity: 794
Merit: 272
March 23, 2018, 07:56:30 AM
well, the times for good profits, when a miner could earn 5-7$ per day from gtx 1080ti is long over
gladly I was able to ROI all may rigs, so I'm really OK with today's profits 1-1.5$  per card
will wait when profits will start to cone back again  ( 5- 6 month)

I get about 3.5-4 dollars per 1080 TI right now. That's not what it used to be but again it is a hell of a lot better than most.
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Merit: 24
March 23, 2018, 07:54:55 AM
The only thing that matters in mining is the time of selling your coins.. If you mine and keep your coins until ETH goes back to 1000$ you hit the bingo... You should NEVER watch what is the best coin to mine at current prices... (you should only if you are selling coins right away into $) This is the thing most miners are not capable to think about it.. Thats why every 3rd guy is crying about how shitty is to be a miner nowadays Smiley

I wake up and laugh at those guys every morning.  I've laughed at several.  Currently I'm enjoying a chuckle at the expense of dimpsk.  Grin Grin Grin
newbie
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March 23, 2018, 02:50:21 AM
out of curiosity, where do you "fish" those other more valuable coins that are not on whattomine.com ? Smiley

Mostly through conversation with other miners in telegram/discord groups, announcements section of the forum if you want to do research by you own.
sr. member
Activity: 362
Merit: 250
March 23, 2018, 02:49:35 AM
The only thing that matters in mining is the time of selling your coins.. If you mine and keep your coins until ETH goes back to 1000$ you hit the bingo... You should NEVER watch what is the best coin to mine at current prices... (you should only if you are selling coins right away into $) This is the thing most miners are not capable to think about it.. Thats why every 3rd guy is crying about how shitty is to be a miner nowadays Smiley
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Out of the box is where I live
March 23, 2018, 02:34:52 AM
out of curiosity, where do you "fish" those other more valuable coins that are not on whattomine.com ? Smiley
sr. member
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Merit: 250
March 23, 2018, 01:54:46 AM
well, the times for good profits, when a miner could earn 5-7$ per day from gtx 1080ti is long over
gladly I was able to ROI all may rigs, so I'm really OK with today's profits 1-1.5$  per card
will wait when profits will start to cone back again  ( 5- 6 month)
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
March 23, 2018, 01:20:44 AM
Excavating BTC now is not worthwhile. However, excavating some new POW projects has particularly high output in the early stages. It can be used as an investment to dig a little. If the late development is good, it will be profitable.
newbie
Activity: 112
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March 22, 2018, 11:41:17 PM
You trolls must always consider 30% - less profits than whattomine shows you, if it shows 30mhs on eth will give you after electricity is paid $0.70 per card, take another 30% from it which means $0.45 per card per day and paying $450 per rx 580 will give 1200 days roi, but imagine if your card is damaged, you lose it all, better buy coins at these prices, price of altcoins to buy are very good right now.

Yep, 2 years ROI on new naked GPU and free electricity is quite optimistic. In real life digits can be and would be worse. But it's the limit now. ROI could not be better then 2 years while some are talking about 1 year or even monthes.
sr. member
Activity: 794
Merit: 272
March 22, 2018, 09:17:36 PM
You trolls must always consider 30% - less profits than whattomine shows you, if it shows 30mhs on eth will give you after electricity is paid $0.70 per card, take another 30% from it which means $0.45 per card per day and paying $450 per rx 580 will give 1200 days roi, but imagine if your card is damaged, you lose it all, better buy coins at these prices, price of altcoins to buy are very good right now.

I agree if you are mining things that are listed on whattomine. However, I know of a few coins that are vastly more profitable than what is listed on whattomine.
sr. member
Activity: 794
Merit: 272
March 22, 2018, 09:14:14 PM
It's still worth it but in terms of buying new hardware right now it may be best to wait. It depends really on how much spare funds you can invest, another important aspect is if it will work out better just buying coins at the moment when the prices are relatively low.

It depends on what you are mining as well. There are some coins, not on whattomine, that are still 2-4 times more profitable that what is listed and known for a given GPU.

It is illusion. There no such profitable coins. In real life profitability will be worse for sure then  on  top  of whattomine for example.  I tried it not once.

It is no illusion... You just need to know where to look.  Wink
copper member
Activity: 166
Merit: 84
March 22, 2018, 08:46:39 PM
When GPU mining I have found that I typically yield 0.72 * WhattoMine, on most pools.  There have been some exceptions.  Bitcore pools yielded exactly what was predicted by WhattoMine, and Suprnova seems to yield something around 0.9.  But yes, I generally agree a 30% penalty is a realistic calculation for most pools.  Ahashpool was 0.7 across the board for all algorithms I tried.  Miningpoolhub was around 0.8.

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Xtreme Monster
March 22, 2018, 08:20:31 PM
Where are you coming up with the 30% discrepancy for whattomine.com?

Reality. Those pools are stealing that much profit and they take advantage cause solo mining is worthless for most, solo mining gives you more or equal than whattomine, never less.

The pool mafia has been going on for a long time, hope one day it will die. They can fool you trolls, experienced miners are never fooled by them.
newbie
Activity: 63
Merit: 0
March 22, 2018, 08:09:55 PM
You trolls must always consider 30% - less profits than whattomine shows you, if it shows 30mhs on eth will give you after electricity is paid $0.70 per card, take another 30% from it which means $0.45 per card per day and paying $450 per rx 580 will give 1200 days roi, but imagine if your card is damaged, you lose it all, better buy coins at these prices, price of altcoins to buy are very good right now.

Where are you coming up with the 30% discrepancy for whattomine.com?
copper member
Activity: 166
Merit: 84
March 22, 2018, 07:55:22 PM
Several people in the community (myself included) are working on open-platform FPGA miners (stock FPGA cards widely available + publicly released bitstreams with 2% fee).  The ROI right now is 15 to 90 days based on the card and the algorithm.  In my mind open platform FPGA mining will soon replace GPU's for altcoins, and the FPGA's are almost immune to forking.

Any links or references to what you're talking about? Unfortunately some of us don't live in basements or geek out all day so we may not easily understand what and how FPGAs work for mining. My guess is that if ROI is 15 to 90 days as you say, it won't ever be available to the public until that number rises. People are greedy and developers will want to keep profits to themselves first.

I know the ROI since I am developing for the boards myself, but someone else also posted they were yielding similar ROI's for their FPGA project.  My algorithms are not finished yet, but all the high end boards are available for purchase immediately.  The hardware is available, the software/bitstreams will be available relatively soon.  I considered just mining with it and keeping it secret, but giving it away and charging a 2% fee ultimately yields more money in the end, so everyone benefits.

If you want to understand the technical side, consider that each core in a GPU is a serial processor capable of all sorts of math, and each math function is on a different part of the core.  Since only one math function is done at a time, then technically 80% of the GPU is actually 'idle' (all functions that are not being used in that particular instant are idle).  An FPGA that is programmed for mining is utilized 100%, that is to say that no single part of the chip is ever idle, every part is always working.  So even though the clock speed of the FPGA is lower (300-600MHz) than a GPU, the hash rate is drastically higher.



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Xtreme Monster
March 22, 2018, 07:42:55 PM
You trolls must always consider 30% - less profits than whattomine shows you, if it shows 30mhs on eth will give you after electricity is paid $0.70 per card, take another 30% from it which means $0.45 per card per day and paying $450 per rx 580 will give 1200 days roi, but imagine if your card is damaged, you lose it all, better buy coins at these prices, price of altcoins to buy are very good right now.
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March 22, 2018, 07:25:43 PM
Several people in the community (myself included) are working on open-platform FPGA miners (stock FPGA cards widely available + publicly released bitstreams with 2% fee).  The ROI right now is 15 to 90 days based on the card and the algorithm.  In my mind open platform FPGA mining will soon replace GPU's for altcoins, and the FPGA's are almost immune to forking.

Any links or references to what you're talking about? Unfortunately some of us don't live in basements or geek out all day so we may not easily understand what and how FPGAs work for mining. My guess is that if ROI is 15 to 90 days as you say, it won't ever be available to the public until that number rises. People are greedy and developers will want to keep profits to themselves first.
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