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Quote from: coupable on July 03, 2022, 09:39:53 AM

These measures do not seem to me to be able to actually protect minors from engaging in gambling. The issue is primarily educational, if these minors are able to use their parents identities and also use money through electronic payment cards. The law will not be able to limit these practices, even partially.
The issue relates mainly to the scope of freedom granted by parents to their children.
In this case, the government can intensify awareness campaigns. This will be more effective in my opinion .

I highly agree the government should intensify awareness campaigns, conduct regular seminars at every education level, and tackle gambling and gambling addiction intensively. I also believe kids' environment plays a huge part in how they develop their view on gambling so parents and adults must always guide their younger relatives and friends on gambling issues.

Quote from: Gianluca95 on July 03, 2022, 10:18:26 AM

Well, law can not put his hand everywhere, in some case parents should help them to apply rules with child. The example that you've made wants that parent help son to gamble, and this isn't absolutely a good thing.

About that, I can say that Crypto industry gambling should do some efforts, considering that many casino doesn't ask KYC, you can have bitcoin easily today, and so, there are many risks about child that.

Crypto gambling industries should always follow government guidelines even though their options in preventing kids on their platform are very limited.

I think we have shared all the necessary ideas regarding this thread's topic. So I decided to lock the thread. Thank you for your participation.

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Quote from: coupable on July 03, 2022, 09:39:53 AM

These measures do not seem to me to be able to actually protect minors from engaging in gambling. The issue is primarily educational, if these minors are able to use their parents identities and also use money through electronic payment cards. The law will not be able to limit these practices, even partially.
The issue relates mainly to the scope of freedom granted by parents to their children.
In this case, the government can intensify awareness campaigns. This will be more effective in my opinion .

Well, law can not put his hand everywhere, in some case parents should help them to apply rules with child. The example that you've made wants that parent help son to gamble, and this isn't absolutely a good thing.

About that, I can say that Crypto industry gambling should do some efforts, considering that many casino doesn't ask KYC, you can have bitcoin easily today, and so, there are many risks about child that.

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Quote from: michellee on July 03, 2022, 06:33:39 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 01, 2022, 02:21:06 PM

In this case, these children who are not provided with proper supervision may encounter gambling at an earlier age than others. But I don't know how bad or good it can be - perhaps having received a negative experience, they will draw the right conclusion and avoid gambling. Fortunately, children now have a wide range of activities.

For those children, I think it might not be that bad but if they don't have a variety of activities, gambling can give a negative experience or desire to continue gambling. Moreover, if they reach adulthood, lack of parental supervision can make them fall deeper and in the end, children who grow up can become addicted to gambling. It is why parental supervision is really needed for the children so they do not do the wrong thing.

For some reason I think it sounds ominous Grin

Supervision is important, but I do not welcome excesses, for example, in Belgium and the Netherlands, the Genshin Impact game was not released at all, because according to local legislation, loot boxes are equated with gambling (or so heavily regulated that it was easier for the publisher to ignore these countries). As a result, all supervision comes down to the fact that people are forbidden something.

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These measures do not seem to me to be able to actually protect minors from engaging in gambling. The issue is primarily educational, if these minors are able to use their parents identities and also use money through electronic payment cards. The law will not be able to limit these practices, even partially.
The issue relates mainly to the scope of freedom granted by parents to their children.
In this case, the government can intensify awareness campaigns. This will be more effective in my opinion .

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They can simply use an advanced KYC verification process just like binance and other crypto exchanges where we have to enter an OTP on a paper and click a selfie with it.
How will the minor children be able to tackle this issue since the OTP changes frequently.
The OTP will expire by the time they do something to pass through this verification method.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 01, 2022, 02:21:06 PM

Quote from: michellee on July 01, 2022, 01:33:47 AM

I don't think parents need to scare their children, but still give the understanding that gambling is not good for them, especially when they grow up. Parents can show examples from the life around us and if parents can give understanding to their children, I think they will stay away from gambling and will not get involved in it. But unfortunately, today's parents, especially young parents, are too busy with their work and rarely talk or discuss with their children, making them lose the figure of a father or mother. And in the end, they tend to follow their friends and do not remember their parents' advice.

In this case, these children who are not provided with proper supervision may encounter gambling at an earlier age than others. But I don't know how bad or good it can be - perhaps having received a negative experience, they will draw the right conclusion and avoid gambling. Fortunately, children now have a wide range of activities.

For those children, I think it might not be that bad but if they don't have a variety of activities, gambling can give a negative experience or desire to continue gambling. Moreover, if they reach adulthood, lack of parental supervision can make them fall deeper and in the end, children who grow up can become addicted to gambling. It is why parental supervision is really needed for the children so they do not do the wrong thing.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on July 02, 2022, 02:48:32 PM

It's not just licensed casino that are accessible to minors but also non licensed casinos which those casinos does not require KYC from their gamblers before they can withdraw, deposit or play. All you need to do is own some crypto and deposit it on their casino. Some casinos did require KYC but only if your account's activity is very suspicious or you are going to withdraw huge amount of money from their casino.

With that, I think the only thing that I see that can be a solution is a parents supervision, there's nothing we can do about that. They can access different website anywhere and everywhere. Here in my country many minors are getting addicted to it, because their parents are busy enough to make money.

Yes only the parents are the one near the kids beside they have the most hours in contact and presence with their children. Besides it is always a parents responsibility to guide their children to the right path. So for gambling protection I think the most responsibility should be given to the parents.

Its our responsibility as guardians or parent of our kids on where guiding them on the right path even though you cant monitor them whole day but at least you had shared up and tell them about the
basic idea and awareness on what gambling could possibly give thats why it do really give that crucial role and not something to be ignored of.
You are the ones who would really be needing to guide off your children on the right path.It isnt really bad to gamble but everything should really be in control
and discipline since it do talks finances.

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They should do that which seems to be a successful process to drastically reduce minors from using gambling websites, but parents have a role in this too, I think they should monitor their kids internet usage which a lot of people find it as a invasion of their privacy but I disagree, they won't get away if they accessed something they shouldn't have, and if the parents know how to approach their kids to talk them out of it, we won't have a lot of minors accessing inappropriate websites.

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Quote from: molsewid on July 02, 2022, 04:40:55 PM

Quote from: nakamura12 on July 02, 2022, 02:48:32 PM

It's not just licensed casino that are accessible to minors but also non licensed casinos which those casinos does not require KYC from their gamblers before they can withdraw, deposit or play. All you need to do is own some crypto and deposit it on their casino. Some casinos did require KYC but only if your account's activity is very suspicious or you are going to withdraw huge amount of money from their casino.

With that, I think the only thing that I see that can be a solution is a parents supervision, there's nothing we can do about that. They can access different website anywhere and everywhere. Here in my country many minors are getting addicted to it, because their parents are busy enough to make money.

Yes only the parents are the one near the kids beside they have the most hours in contact and presence with their children. Besides it is always a parents responsibility to guide their children to the right path. So for gambling protection I think the most responsibility should be given to the parents.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on July 02, 2022, 02:48:32 PM

It's not just licensed casino that are accessible to minors but also non licensed casinos which those casinos does not require KYC from their gamblers before they can withdraw, deposit or play. All you need to do is own some crypto and deposit it on their casino. Some casinos did require KYC but only if your account's activity is very suspicious or you are going to withdraw huge amount of money from their casino.

With that, I think the only thing that I see that can be a solution is a parents supervision, there's nothing we can do about that. They can access different website anywhere and everywhere. Here in my country many minors are getting addicted to it, because their parents are busy enough to make money.

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Maybe it will depend on what kind of detection to prove that they are exactly the parents or the children. In this case, as you said that many youngers are getting into gambling sites, using their parents identity, or even gambling on the Non-KYC platforms. And in this case, gambling platforms may not able to detect whether their users are children or not.
So far, actually, the one that can protect is ourself itself and also our parents themselves. If we are a gambler, we must know what kind of gambler we are. We must also be able to manage and control our gambling activities, including how much money we spend on gambling.
And if this related tominor or children, it is actually how the parents pay attention on their children itself. I know that it may not be able to watch our kids 24 hours daily. Butat least, we must know what is doing by our kids, what n history and also their phones or computer devices. We must check it regularly.

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if my minor won a big some of money while gambling, i would be against ahaha

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Quote from: Silberman on July 01, 2022, 04:09:12 PM

Exactly, governments and private companies are trying to solve this with regulations and technology exclusively, and while they could be part of the solution it is impossible they can solve the issue, so how to solve it? With good parenting of course, if parents take the time to talk with their children about the dangers of early gambling then they can easily discourage them to engage in the activity, and the best part is that this is way cheaper and it does not need for us to lose even more privacy in the process.

Parenting is the root of the issue on this case and should be the main concern of authorities instead of invasion of privacy. And when parents aren't educating and caring their children accordingly, there are already efficient non-invasive mechanisms to identify it and punish the parents, that is through school's members, psychologists and social workers. Moreover, when parents suspect their children are gambling, they will cut any income these kids have, if not because they care for their health, it will be because they don't want the children losing money which comes from their pockets and that must be used for essential purposes.

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It's not just licensed casino that are accessible to minors but also non licensed casinos which those casinos does not require KYC from their gamblers before they can withdraw, deposit or play. All you need to do is own some crypto and deposit it on their casino. Some casinos did require KYC but only if your account's activity is very suspicious or you are going to withdraw huge amount of money from their casino.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 01, 2022, 03:36:05 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 01, 2022, 02:21:06 PM

In this case, these children who are not provided with proper supervision may encounter gambling at an earlier age than others. But I don't know how bad or good it can be - perhaps having received a negative experience, they will draw the right conclusion and avoid gambling. Fortunately, children now have a wide range of activities.

Indeed, there are many other activities that can make them busy unless they really attached themselves into gambling, but it make sense that parents should give good advice beforehand in terms of these activities, gambling is not something that they can easily let go once they've got addicted, the worse things are coming if they are not being guided correctly.

Parents are the first hand protections to avoid those young minors to get engaged in their early days of life into gambling.

By the way, the danger of gambling lies in wait for teenagers even in ordinary games. For example, I think a lot of people have heard of the brutal loot box system in Diablo Immortal, where it's estimated that it would cost half a million dollars to fully level a character. Is this not madness? My daughter plays Genshin Impact, and there the loot box system also develops a gambling addiction in children.

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With so many providers for advertising like AdSense you mention, this can provide revenue for the casino or website that advertises to be directed to that casino. If it can get clicks from visitors and visitors play in the casino, that means the casino can earn revenue. But indeed children in this era are smarter than their parents so they can use the internet well, even without parental guidance. This is a dilemma for parents.

That's the purpose of Adsense and the same goes for any other advertising technique. But the problem is that it won't filter and it won't know how old the visitors are.
It is the reason why it is very possible for a teen to land and pay a visit to a casino because of these Adsense and its algorithm depending on the conversation they have and browsing history.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 28, 2022, 12:52:17 PM

Parents with minors should either stop gambling or keep their devices out of the reach of their kids. This to me is the best protection minors can get from gambling. Also they have a role to play in talking to their kids about the inherent dangers of gambling addiction. That is responsible parenting. Where a parent has failed in this role then this technology which I have doubts about can come into play. I'd like to see the statistics of how effective this technology is in six(6) months.

The issue is that technology like this is useless to protect kids from early gambling, after all even if the technology was 100% effective and no minor could gamble at any casino around the world, what can stop a minor from buying a pack of playing cards and begin to play poker, blackjack, baccarat or any other gambling game played with those cards and make some bets among them? There is no way to protect minors from that and as such all of those technological measures are a waste of time against someone which is completely determined to gamble.

There's a lot of ways and methods on which someone could able to deal up with gambling no matter how strict those prohibitions are thats why i do see that the most effective would really be totally

starting with parenting on which on this area will really be that recommendable on doing so since it will open the eyes or awareness of your children on early times on whats gambling and whats the possible things that could happen specially when you are already on that addiction mode and if they do find out to be that awful situations then its just common sense that they would avoid it out.

Its true that on the technology that we do have today then getting of it 100% is impossible.If you wanted to gamble then there is hundreds of ways on doing it.

Exactly, governments and private companies are trying to solve this with regulations and technology exclusively, and while they could be part of the solution it is impossible they can solve the issue, so how to solve it? With good parenting of course, if parents take the time to talk with their children about the dangers of early gambling then they can easily discourage them to engage in the activity, and the best part is that this is way cheaper and it does not need for us to lose even more privacy in the process.

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Parents can manage their children at a certain age. But it is not only due to the environment of the parents, the scope is of course much wider. If your kids are going out or hanging out, it's only a matter of time before they become associated with gambling. Then it is up to the DNA whether someone is sensitive to it. you can educate a child as much as you want, if he wants to gamble then he can't be stopped. And you don't like checking a child on his bank account. You can now also easily get bitcoins at a minor age unfortunately.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 01, 2022, 03:36:05 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 01, 2022, 02:21:06 PM

Quote from: michellee on July 01, 2022, 01:33:47 AM

I don't think parents need to scare their children, but still give the understanding that gambling is not good for them, especially when they grow up. Parents can show examples from the life around us and if parents can give understanding to their children, I think they will stay away from gambling and will not get involved in it. But unfortunately, today's parents, especially young parents, are too busy with their work and rarely talk or discuss with their children, making them lose the figure of a father or mother. And in the end, they tend to follow their friends and do not remember their parents' advice.

In this case, these children who are not provided with proper supervision may encounter gambling at an earlier age than others. But I don't know how bad or good it can be - perhaps having received a negative experience, they will draw the right conclusion and avoid gambling. Fortunately, children now have a wide range of activities.

Indeed, there are many other activities that can make them busy unless they really attached themselves into gambling, but it make sense that parents should give good advice beforehand in terms of these activities, gambling is not something that they can easily let go once they've got addicted, the worse things are coming if they are not being guided correctly.

Parents are the first hand protections to avoid those young minors to get engaged in their early days of life into gambling.

Parenting is a great major factor or role which do really need for it to be applied into their children because everything on this world could be potentially be engaged whether its a good one or bad one.Gambling isnt actually bad as long you do have the control but we know that young minds or to those who dont have experience doesnt able to control emotions and doesnt really have much in terms of finances thats why
it would really result into unfortunate events or happenings on the time that they had made themselves to be addicted. Minors are really that prone to these things not only limited to gambling but on other things
well on which it could really greatly affect them on the future if they wont get a good hold or control of it thats why parenting and guidance would be the key on making these youngster able to
avoid such condition but of course there are other things as well.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 01, 2022, 02:21:06 PM

Quote from: michellee on July 01, 2022, 01:33:47 AM

I don't think parents need to scare their children, but still give the understanding that gambling is not good for them, especially when they grow up. Parents can show examples from the life around us and if parents can give understanding to their children, I think they will stay away from gambling and will not get involved in it. But unfortunately, today's parents, especially young parents, are too busy with their work and rarely talk or discuss with their children, making them lose the figure of a father or mother. And in the end, they tend to follow their friends and do not remember their parents' advice.

In this case, these children who are not provided with proper supervision may encounter gambling at an earlier age than others. But I don't know how bad or good it can be - perhaps having received a negative experience, they will draw the right conclusion and avoid gambling. Fortunately, children now have a wide range of activities.

Indeed, there are many other activities that can make them busy unless they really attached themselves into gambling, but it make sense that parents should give good advice beforehand in terms of these activities, gambling is not something that they can easily let go once they've got addicted, the worse things are coming if they are not being guided correctly.

Parents are the first hand protections to avoid those young minors to get engaged in their early days of life into gambling.

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