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Quote from: Boristhecat on June 19, 2022, 09:24:25 AM

In fact, a warning label is quite enough. Why should casinos invent sophisticated KYC? They can still be bypassed one way or another.

Maybe the KYC that is required for protection is not complete because KYC verification can be improved with live face verification (selfie) such as the KYC process on Binance and on other exchanges. Strict KYC process will minimize fake user accounts because it will be difficult to pass the steps without real identity and face verification.

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Parents should be involved in the upbringing of children and they should ensure that children do not do what is forbidden/harmful, and not outside organizations. In general, I noticed from all these measures that supposedly protect children there is almost no benefit, and there is a lot of harm.

However, the involvement of parents in monitoring children's activities must be prioritized because in the era of technology that allows children to access adult activities because it is easy to break into access to adult search categories on search engines, I think the mobile or desktop device used must activate synchronization to an email address to save everything from browser activity.

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Quote from: Masplanc on June 19, 2022, 08:09:45 AM

Many casino are aware that minors do play bet with their company but they don't really care because what they need is money. When you login into there site they will only tell you gambling is for 18+, no strict verification to access users. It will be good for casino to make verification requirements strict to control the rate which minors play gamble.

In fact, a warning label is quite enough. Why should casinos invent sophisticated KYC? They can still be bypassed one way or another. Parents should be involved in the upbringing of children and they should ensure that children do not do what is forbidden/harmful, and not outside organizations. In general, I noticed from all these measures that supposedly protect children there is almost no benefit, and there is a lot of harm.

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Quote from: Masplanc on June 19, 2022, 08:09:45 AM

Many casino are aware that minors do play bet with their company but they don't really care because what they need is money. When you login into there site they will only tell you gambling is for 18+, no strict verification to access users. It will be good for casino to make verification requirements strict to control the rate which minors play gamble.

KYC has pros and cons, some gamblers agree with it but the majority of gamblers definitely don't want that. the impact of gambling sites that do not require KYC is a minor that will definitely play on the site. the times are getting more sophisticated, in my city, there are still many minors who are already playing gambling with a capital of hundreds of bucks, besides using their parents' identities, the minors must also use their parents' money to play gambling.

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Quote from: Masplanc on June 19, 2022, 08:09:45 AM

Many casino are aware that minors do play bet with their company but they don't really care because what they need is money. When you login into there site they will only tell you gambling is for 18+, no strict verification to access users. It will be good for casino to make verification requirements strict to control the rate which minors play gamble.

Actually, so far, I have not heard of many cases of discovery for children's gambling activities. But I'm sure it actually exists. The rise of promotions carried out on social media can certainly attract new registrants and maybe children. We don't blame gambling sites, but nowadays many artists offer sites to add money. This gambling site is like sloot, there is no filter on social media.
Indeed, some credible gambling sites have filters through KYC so the possibility of children joining is quite difficult. But for unregistered sites we and the government can't control it. The best control is the supervision of their family.

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Many casino are aware that minors do play bet with their company but they don't really care because what they need is money. When you login into there site they will only tell you gambling is for 18+, no strict verification to access users. It will be good for casino to make verification requirements strict to control the rate which minors play gamble.

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Quote from: decodx on June 18, 2022, 12:31:52 PM

Children are getting their hands on smartphone apps before they have gotten their first tooth. Kids will always have access to the internet, but what they don’t always know is how to use the internet safely. As parents, we must arm our children with the knowledge and skills necessary to stay safe online, but before doing so, we need to do our part by keeping an eye on our children online and remaining vigilant.

By being constantly on the lookout for signs of danger, we can help ensure that our children grow up feeling safe and secure, not scared and constantly wary of the world they live in. We can start by being aware of the warning signs and steps we should take if we have reason to believe our child has come into contact with inappropriate content online. It is our duty to keep our children safe. Don't trust anyone to do it for you.

I think sometimes we as parents miss something that happens to our children when they use the internet and can't always control what they do on the internet, the safest thing is when parents can provide restrictions on accessing gambling or adult content on several platforms so that even though the child is searching on the internet, it is still safe because it cannot access sites that are not allowed. some iOS devices have implemented such a system so that the internet world will be safer when children use the device you have.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on June 18, 2022, 10:16:12 AM

In my opinion, the right thing is that parents are more assertive and always supervise and also limit their children who are still underage when accessing the internet using smartphones and others, considering the rise of online gambling and technology that continues to develop making things easier.

That's easier said than done, unless you're a parent by yourself. Parenting is not that simple especially if your family have 24 hours internet access. With that said, you're living an above average life where almost everyone in the house has smartphone and laptop. Stricted internet sites is just so simple to access too for an above average kids. With that kind of life, parents are busy making money to make their kids live a good life. And this kind of family where kids act on their own and simply tries everything what can be done in the internet.

Ofc, even in the lower categories do something like this too, even just living an average life or even below where most poor guys act like betting their life for gambling.

The only thing that is possible is to avoid the kids getting influenced by the adults, where gambling cannot be seen in the premise and do other things instead.

Indeed, with the technology that we have today, it is too difficult to learn what your kids are browsing over the net. Also, if I may add, you can also instill the concept of how to take care of their money or financials. I know, it is too early for these kids to learn their financial aspect of life. But you can already introduce the basic things about money, how you earn your money, how can they save money. Because if you are open to them with such discussions, maybe, they will learn how to value their funds.

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To some extent this will make a positive response, due to the usage of biometrics. In what all way we keep them away from gambling, if they want they'll make a way and use it. This is how the present generation, because they're well aware of the technology and the ways. In other words, they knew better than us. Minor protection is a must, because if the kid deviates at his childhood then it is hard for him to concentrate on other things of life.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on June 18, 2022, 10:16:12 AM

In my opinion, the right thing is that parents are more assertive and always supervise and also limit their children who are still underage when accessing the internet using smartphones and others, considering the rise of online gambling and technology that continues to develop making things easier.

That's easier said than done, unless you're a parent by yourself. Parenting is not that simple especially if your family have 24 hours internet access. With that said, you're living an above average life where almost everyone in the house has smartphone and laptop. Stricted internet sites is just so simple to access too for an above average kids. With that kind of life, parents are busy making money to make their kids live a good life. And this kind of family where kids act on their own and simply tries everything what can be done in the internet.

Ofc, even in the lower categories do something like this too, even just living an average life or even below where most poor guys act like betting their life for gambling.

The only thing that is possible is to avoid the kids getting influenced by the adults, where gambling cannot be seen in the premise and do other things instead.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on June 09, 2022, 01:27:54 AM

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But I still wonder if this kind of technology is effective enough for those minors who use their parent's access accounts to gambling sites. Will this be able to detect such action? Will this kind of technology can trully protect minors and prevent them to access gambling sites?

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Like any regulation imposed, there is no guaranteed possibility that it will totally wipe out minors who can access gambling websites but it can definitely lessen the number with the introduction of such technology. In comparison, before you enter any porn websites (which is also considered illegal for minors), only some terms and agreements stating that you must be 18 years old to access is required to press in order to proceed with the website.

Again, with this kind of introduction, any kind of help that caters to online gambling addiction (especially when minors are involved) are always welcomed. Though this may not completely avoid minors from entering this kind of addiction, expect that numbers and traffic would be lessened from now on.

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Children are getting their hands on smartphone apps before they have gotten their first tooth. Kids will always have access to the internet, but what they don’t always know is how to use the internet safely. As parents, we must arm our children with the knowledge and skills necessary to stay safe online, but before doing so, we need to do our part by keeping an eye on our children online and remaining vigilant.

By being constantly on the lookout for signs of danger, we can help ensure that our children grow up feeling safe and secure, not scared and constantly wary of the world they live in. We can start by being aware of the warning signs and steps we should take if we have reason to believe our child has come into contact with inappropriate content online. It is our duty to keep our children safe. Don't trust anyone to do it for you.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on June 18, 2022, 10:16:12 AM

In my opinion, the right thing is that parents are more assertive and always supervise and also limit their children who are still underage when accessing the internet using smartphones and others, considering the rise of online gambling and technology that continues to develop making things easier.
and if we blame the government, I think the government and some people or groups have made efforts to block online gambling sites.
and the problem is that because of the unregulated online internet, as well as the freedom, there are millions if not billions of IP addresses in this world, and it is impossible to block them all by the government.
so the most important role is for parents or the whole family to control each other and remind each other and also advise that online gambling is not good and dangerous.

It's part of parenting on which it is really that needed for you to guide your children on the right path of things but same as you said that because of technology development where it is really that unavoidable for something to be seen even on unintentional kind of manner that's why it would really be that sensible that you would really be making your children to be supervised and be aware and letting them know and realized on what's the cons of gambling.We parents aren't really that perfect to monitor our child 24/7 which it is really that we do need those kind of steps at least.

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In my opinion, the right thing is that parents are more assertive and always supervise and also limit their children who are still underage when accessing the internet using smartphones and others, considering the rise of online gambling and technology that continues to develop making things easier.
and if we blame the government, I think the government and some people or groups have made efforts to block online gambling sites.
and the problem is that because of the unregulated online internet, as well as the freedom, there are millions if not billions of IP addresses in this world, and it is impossible to block them all by the government.
so the most important role is for parents or the whole family to control each other and remind each other and also advise that online gambling is not good and dangerous.

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The issue of minors being involved in gambling is not really a news. It's been existing long time ago and until now, it isn't fully solved yet because the reasons stem to many factors. And some of these factors are beyond the control of the authorities such as disciplining the child, giving the right counsel, and good guidance of parents.

A lot of ways are actually made to save the lives of the youth. Of course, the government wants to preserve their innocence and let them have peaceful life where gamble could take away, most especially they are still in their young stage and phase in life. Unfortunately, there are still so many countermeasures that could be done to bypass most of the imposed methods to protect the minors. This involves identity theft which is the usage of a card that's not really theirs, stealing their guardians card information, and asking other people such as friends to help them bypass the security.

As we know, technology is evolving and so are the ways to infiltrate systems. KYC could be a good band aid solution, but the problem must be addressed from its roots.

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Quote from: worle1bm on June 14, 2022, 01:13:55 AM

Although the step to restrict minor gamblers is good but still they have lot of ways to submit fake identity and keep playing but as we have seen gambling is too risky and can lead to some other issues which is bad for teenagers as they develop more problems at young age.There should be certain more strict implications to stop them from gambling and avoid problems in their personal life.

The internet is a scary place, you wouldn't know until you know the intensity of the impact it can do on minors, that's why it is advisable not to allow them to use the internet except when they have a college assignment. You have seen that KYC is sometimes requested from casino but this is very cheap to buy from anyone, there are plenty of ways people buy KYC online to bye-pass any restriction, the agency really have a big job to do because I feel that a child that is below 18+ will gamble anytime they like, only with parents this fight can be successfull.

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I don't think that with technology we will able to protect the minors from gambling who really want to do it. When I remember how it was when I was a kid, we couldn't be stopped by any age limitations. My friends and I invested so much time to circumvent technology that it became a game by itself. Who ever was able to find the first exploit or crack to access the 18+ content was the king in school. For a casino this is a big problem, because a few kids will gamble no matter what. Even with most kids not engaging in gambling below the age of 18, they know it's illegal and will follow the law, the casino needs to protect the minor. On the other side are the gamblers who don't want to share all their private information only to show that they are really 18. I think it's also the kids parents fault who gamble because they should supervise their kids. If the parents have no idea what the kids are doing online then it's hard to only play the parents. The best is to be open with our children and try and make them understand that gambling is risky and we can lose money with it.

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I can tell from all replies that we have different standpoints regarding who is responsible for Minor who are exposed to gambling. I can say that parents have huge responsibility since education always starts from home. We can also blame technology for this since, with smartphones and the internet, children that have access to it has a limitless boundary for exploration. And lastly, we can also put the blame to the casino since they do not do their due diligence in verifying whether documents are sent by a minor if it is actually theirs or not.

With the emerging problem, technologies for minor protection are researched, created, and developed but I do not think that it is enough to solve the issue. If we talk about Minor protection, Casinos, technology, and parents should stand hand in hand in protecting minors from accessing gambling sites.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on June 17, 2022, 02:46:44 AM

This is the main issue. If a child is smart and cunning enough to be able to use cards that belong to his parents he's also be able to use VPN and hide his age. You'd need all gambling sites to run video verification like the KYC done by banks and they'd still probably try to cheat with face changing software or fake IDs because there's no risk. Worst case scenario a casino bans them and they will try to make an account elsewhere.
Good effort by Germany but it will probably make everyone's lives there harder with more restrictions and teenagers will still find a way around it.

What cards? I.d or credit/debit? But he didn't say stole but it was the money given by the parents. Stealing is a different case but it is bad if the kid is like this. The problem is now going to be two, not only one. He can bypass country restrictions with the help of a vpn but it didn't have the ability to bypass the signup process and if the site requires a kyc the only way to change their age is to use a fake i.d but there are some that steal their parents i.d and use it.

The risk is the money can get stuck inside the gambling site if they require a kyc upon withdrawals and you can't successfully do it but if you haven't deposited anything yet then there's no risk with it.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 09, 2022, 05:43:19 AM

well let's imagine that a 16 year old kid in Germany takes his money (money that his parents gave him) buys cryptocurrencies and then opens an account at an online casino, uses a VPN and makes a deposit and starts playing. my question:

How will this child be discovered?

Would this Incode Technologies system find out that the least has an account at casino Z and is using cryptocurrencies to make deposits and play?

I would say the following:

Nowadays children already have access to smarphones and computers very early, what parents need to do is pay more attention to the child, provide civic and moral education to children, this is the only solution. when parents are negligent then children will get involved early in gambling, drinking, alcohol, robberies, murders, pornography and many other harmful things

This is the main issue. If a child is smart and cunning enough to be able to use cards that belong to his parents he's also be able to use VPN and hide his age. You'd need all gambling sites to run video verification like the KYC done by banks and they'd still probably try to cheat with face changing software or fake IDs because there's no risk. Worst case scenario a casino bans them and they will try to make an account elsewhere.
Good effort by Germany but it will probably make everyone's lives there harder with more restrictions and teenagers will still find a way around it.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 09, 2022, 05:43:19 AM

well let's imagine that a 16 year old kid in Germany takes his money (money that his parents gave him) buys cryptocurrencies and then opens an account at an online casino, uses a VPN and makes a deposit and starts playing. my question:

How will this child be discovered?

Would this Incode Technologies system find out that the least has an account at casino Z and is using cryptocurrencies to make deposits and play?

I would say the following:

Nowadays children already have access to smarphones and computers very early, what parents need to do is pay more attention to the child, provide civic and moral education to children, this is the only solution. when parents are negligent then children will get involved early in gambling, drinking, alcohol, robberies, murders, pornography and many other harmful things

I think I agree with this idea wholeheartedly. When I was kid which is back in early 2000s, I didn't know much of technology as my country had limited amount of internet coverage and phones were not smart but yet dumb. In 2022 kids grow up with smartphones which are literally computers and speedlight internet. Just a little bit of courage and intellect will make kids solve any, literally any issues or blockings on internet. It is obvious.

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