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legendary
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June 17, 2022, 12:53:47 AM
#96
Still, the parent's assistance and guidance is the most ideal thing to do to prevent minors from early gambling but again if the minors is already enlightened about the activities of it they think it is just normal. That's the reason too why some of the gambling platforms would like to make a KYC because of the abuse of the players at the same time limiting the minors to make a game and i guess having acceptance with the agreement is not enough for terms of condition policy for minors.

That's right, those of us who like privacy don't like KYC very much, but we have to recognise that when it comes to preventing minors from gambling or people from cheating with multiple accounts, it is effective, although never 100%.

But I still wonder if this kind of technology is effective enough for those minors who use their parent's access accounts to gambling sites.  Will this be able to detect such action?  Will this kind of technology can trully protect minors and prevent them to access gambling sites?  

When you put mechanisms in place, there is always a way to bypass them, the point is that the more mechanisms you implement, the harder it is to bypass them. I believe that with this, underage gambling will be greatly reduced, if not completely eliminated.
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June 17, 2022, 12:42:14 AM
#95
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Proper guidance is the key even we parents are busy with our jobs..
^ That is right, I totally disagree with blaming casinos for minors who gamble there because they are minors, it is on parents' responsibility not to engage in gambling with their young child. Proper guidance should always be there even how busy you are in your work and don't blame gambling casinos because they allow minor age because even though they will prohibit minor age there is still a way that they can gamble through fake identity.
However, for extra protection for minors, it is better for the country that takes an action like this, it will surely have a benefit the future for young generations.

Still, the parent's assistance and guidance is the most ideal thing to do to prevent minors from early gambling but again if the minors is already enlightened about the activities of it they think it is just normal. That's the reason too why some of the gambling platforms would like to make a KYC because of the abuse of the players at the same time limiting the minors to make a game and i guess having acceptance with the agreement is not enough for terms of condition policy for minors.
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June 16, 2022, 02:22:26 AM
#94
Although the step to restrict minor gamblers is good but still they have lot of ways to submit fake identity and keep playing but as we have seen gambling is too risky and can lead to some other issues which is bad for teenagers as they develop more problems at young age.There should be certain more strict implications to stop them from gambling and avoid problems in their personal life.
From the beginning I understand that gambling is not meant for young adults who are jobless and you are student this month for rich people what have a potential business and the Gamble as a result of play in order to keep up listening but children of nowadays misunderstood gambling as method off making money so these has put male adult child it's your problem by stealing the money that is not belong to them to play gamble. So before we can restrict it for children not to participate and Gamble it will take a lot of time and years.
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June 16, 2022, 02:10:35 AM
#93
The priority of parents is to look after the child and monitor any suspicious activity.  in my country the same thing is applied, I think this is the first prevention that parents should do, as for what you say the problem of whether the technology is effective or not depends on how you manage it.  there will be trails and errors and that's for sure, in the future innovation will definitely be more useful for us, especially parents
With the supervision of parents for their children, they will not try to do things they should not be done at their age. If it is successfully done, then it does not require any technology from parents because they will be able to discuss with their children well and understand that playing gambling can pose a risk of losing money. But it would be even better if there was technology that would detect if a child visited a gambling site to play gambling so that they would be immediately banned from continuing.
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June 15, 2022, 07:59:14 PM
#92
~snip~
Proper guidance is the key even we parents are busy with our jobs..
^ That is right, I totally disagree with blaming casinos for minors who gamble there because they are minors, it is on parents' responsibility not to engage in gambling with their young child. Proper guidance should always be there even how busy you are in your work and don't blame gambling casinos because they allow minor age because even though they will prohibit minor age there is still a way that they can gamble through fake identity.
However, for extra protection for minors, it is better for the country that takes an action like this, it will surely have a benefit the future for young generations.
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June 15, 2022, 07:44:10 PM
#91

 I can attest that its also effective since we are using it too in our company every time there is a need for fast verification. However, even if that technology is very advanced and can eventually pinpoint if you are faking your identity or not, that does not guarantee that it can never be scammed by brilliant minds of minors. Technology should also know that. So for me, its really hard to control the minors these days not to gamble, unless if the parents will take the first step to protect their teens not to gamble.

At the home, the emphasis should not be on restrictions but on education about gambling, we have a saying that the more you restrict the more they will go for it because of curiosity, so parents should expose their children to gambling as a way to educate them but not to tempt them to gamble, children will listen if those telling them are their parents and about the truth of the subject.

That will be a big challenge because we really need to be careful what to feed in our children's minds, there's a time for that and it's important to know when is the time to teach them about these things so that they won't go for that path with curiosity and we know that mostly it won't end well if they're not guided properly. Exposing them to a gambling environment may give them an opposite impact instead of educating them, it's still better to educate them without exposing them in that environment and introduce them to some hobbies that is quite different.
Proper guidance is the key even we parents are busy with our jobs or business then we should at least consider on having some time on explaining things to our children and kids and not something turns out to be that
irresponsible because that would surely be giving out big effects into your children when they become big and mature. Its good that they would be aware on how things works
because there's no other things which couldnt really be done first by rather its on parenting where awareness comes first and if you do fail on this one then
expect on what would be the probable things to happen.
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June 15, 2022, 03:59:12 PM
#90

 I can attest that its also effective since we are using it too in our company every time there is a need for fast verification. However, even if that technology is very advanced and can eventually pinpoint if you are faking your identity or not, that does not guarantee that it can never be scammed by brilliant minds of minors. Technology should also know that. So for me, its really hard to control the minors these days not to gamble, unless if the parents will take the first step to protect their teens not to gamble.

At the home, the emphasis should not be on restrictions but on education about gambling, we have a saying that the more you restrict the more they will go for it because of curiosity, so parents should expose their children to gambling as a way to educate them but not to tempt them to gamble, children will listen if those telling them are their parents and about the truth of the subject.

That will be a big challenge because we really need to be careful what to feed in our children's minds, there's a time for that and it's important to know when is the time to teach them about these things so that they won't go for that path with curiosity and we know that mostly it won't end well if they're not guided properly. Exposing them to a gambling environment may give them an opposite impact instead of educating them, it's still better to educate them without exposing them in that environment and introduce them to some hobbies that is quite different.
legendary
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June 15, 2022, 10:53:11 AM
#89
The priority of parents is to look after the child and monitor any suspicious activity.  in my country the same thing is applied, I think this is the first prevention that parents should do, as for what you say the problem of whether the technology is effective or not depends on how you manage it.  there will be trails and errors and that's for sure, in the future innovation will definitely be more useful for us, especially parents
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June 14, 2022, 04:11:44 AM
#88
Not the parents, not the government, but I think the gambling site operator itself should be strict with the KYC process. In most usual cases, KYC should require selfie verification. I wonder how these kids now will be able to breach that verification.

Often times it is the parent's negligence that leads their children to access and play on an online gambling site.  Working parents can find online gambling as means of their relaxation, they will play at night after work and forget to log out of their account when they stop playing the worst they use the PC that can be accessed by anyone in the family.  Children, when using the same PC can accidentally discover that gambling site and start playing with their parent's accounts.  That is one of the hows of these kids playing on an online gambling site.

That scenario could happen, and that's totally an irresponsible act of a certain parent. I find it more convenient gambling using mobile than the computer and it's more safe from the children getting exposure from any gambling website when you're playing on your laptop or desktop.
But of course, the gambling owner must have their fair share of responsibility for keeping away the minors from playing on their website.
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June 14, 2022, 03:42:30 AM
#87
Although the step to restrict minor gamblers is good but still they have lot of ways to submit fake identity and keep playing but as we have seen gambling is too risky and can lead to some other issues which is bad for teenagers as they develop more problems at young age.There should be certain more strict implications to stop them from gambling and avoid problems in their personal life.
I think so because with the easy access to the internet, which is available everywhere and the ease of verification by small gamblers or minors, they will be able to skip the verification easily. I guess it's because they can figure out how to bypass the existing verification process by reading related articles. But if there are family members who can always remind them of the dangers of gambling and can keep an eye on minors while connected to the internet, that thing can be avoided and they will not try to fake verification or submit fake identities.
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June 14, 2022, 02:13:55 AM
#86
Although the step to restrict minor gamblers is good but still they have lot of ways to submit fake identity and keep playing but as we have seen gambling is too risky and can lead to some other issues which is bad for teenagers as they develop more problems at young age.There should be certain more strict implications to stop them from gambling and avoid problems in their personal life.
sr. member
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June 14, 2022, 01:30:39 AM
#85
This had been the main issue in online gambling.  Minors had been flocking to the online Casino site without any restrictions.  They can blatantly access gambling sites with their parents' cards, fake their identities and so on.  Germany does tackle this issue seriously and recently German Commission for the Protection of Minor in the Media (KJM). had a deal with Incode Technologies, a US-based specialist in biometric identity for the age verification solution.[1]  
The German government is very inclined that it will help greatly in protecting minors because of its advanced technology.

Well first of all i definitely agree, that minors should not be able to gamble online. The reason for that is pretty simple: Minors are just not fully developed yet, physically but also mentally. Therefore i think it is safe to say that in general minors are way more prone to becoming addicted to online gambling than adults. Of course there are always exceptions too. I have not read to much about the system that Incode Technologies is using so i am not really sure what kind of method they are using in order to verify the age of users, but i am pretty sure that this kind of method could also be cheated again because i think there is no 100% bullet proof method to do online verification.
In the end the parents need to look after their child and what they are doing.
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June 14, 2022, 12:58:37 AM
#84

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Incode Technologies, a US-based specialist in biometric identity, has its age verification solution approved by the German Commission for the Protection of Minor in the Media (KJM).

‘Legal Certainty’ to Providers
The age verification solution provided by Incode Technologies verifies users against data from their ID cards, comparing their image on the card with a real-time selfie.

The technology facilitates the age verification process by providing guidelines to ensure the optimum scan of the ID card and photo of the user and once complete, the service performs tests to confirm authenticity and issues a score.


But I still wonder if this kind of technology is effective enough for those minors who use their parent's access accounts to gambling sites.  Will this be able to detect such action?  Will this kind of technology can trully protect minors and prevent them to access gambling sites?  


[1] https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/incodes-age-verification-approved-for-protecting-minors-in-germany/
Hoping that my country will add this also because there are so much happening now in my city that Minor is even involving in crimes just to gain amount for gambling .

so if this protection will be conducted to young generation  so they cannot abuse the parents or even their oldies details to gamble and become addicted .
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June 14, 2022, 12:42:11 AM
#83
If it is useful to reduce the number of minors who are used to gambling, I think it can be tried to be done. If the results are good, I think they can continue it or add something else as support. Such technology may be new and not yet fully implemented but over time, I think that technology will also develop. So, for the time being, the technology can be tried to be applied first while the government can evaluate it later to see how it turns out.
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June 13, 2022, 11:00:59 AM
#82
Not the parents, not the government, but I think the gambling site operator itself should be strict with the KYC process. In most usual cases, KYC should require selfie verification. I wonder how these kids now will be able to breach that verification.

Often times it is the parent's negligence that leads their children to access and play on an online gambling site.  Working parents can find online gambling as means of their relaxation, they will play at night after work and forget to log out of their account when they stop playing the worst they use the PC that can be accessed by anyone in the family.  Children, when using the same PC can accidentally discover that gambling site and start playing with their parent's accounts.  That is one of the hows of these kids playing on an online gambling site.
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June 12, 2022, 09:16:47 PM
#81
...But I still wonder if this kind of technology is effective enough for those minors who use their parent's access accounts to gambling sites.  Will this be able to detect such action?   
You have to be in the tech industry or at least try their service if you really want to know the answer. I'm giving the company the benefit of the doubt in determining the authenticity of documents provided through the KYC process and cross-checking with selfies. It's probably over the top for Germany to hire a third party to do all these but it's all good if they are efficient and effective.

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Will this kind of technology can trully protect minors and prevent them to access gambling sites?
Just site access? Not completely. Maybe yes if we're talking about depositing and playing.
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June 12, 2022, 07:53:23 PM
#80
Parenting would really be having a great role on making your children able to avoid those things but we know that not all children would be that obedient nor do follow everytime on what their parent tells them.
For government actions about blocking it then this is a very common step that they would really be making even though it might not really that 100% effective but at least they could lessen out
with those minor involvement with gambling which is something not really a bad move or action that they had made at least.The rest of these things would be talking about
on some parenting which would really differ on each parents on how they would really be doing or handling it.

Parents can't avoid the possibility of their children encountering gambling in the future. That thing can't be avoided and it's all about that kid's preference if they want to try it or not. Even those kids don't know the risks of gambling, it's not that automatically, they will try it. Not all children like to gamble and that's a fact.

Gambling is everywhere. Even just by walking in the streets, these children might encounter any related stuff to gambling.

Not the parents, not the government, but I think the gambling site operator itself should be strict with the KYC process. In most usual cases, KYC should require selfie verification. I wonder how these kids now will be able to breach that verification.
hero member
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June 12, 2022, 05:54:42 PM
#79

 I can attest that its also effective since we are using it too in our company every time there is a need for fast verification. However, even if that technology is very advanced and can eventually pinpoint if you are faking your identity or not, that does not guarantee that it can never be scammed by brilliant minds of minors. Technology should also know that. So for me, its really hard to control the minors these days not to gamble, unless if the parents will take the first step to protect their teens not to gamble.

At the home, the emphasis should not be on restrictions but on education about gambling, we have a saying that the more you restrict the more they will go for it because of curiosity, so parents should expose their children to gambling as a way to educate them but not to tempt them to gamble, children will listen if those telling them are their parents and about the truth of the subject.
Parenting would really be having a great role on making your children able to avoid those things but we know that not all children would be that obedient nor do follow everytime on what their parent tells them.
For government actions about blocking it then this is a very common step that they would really be making even though it might not really that 100% effective but at least they could lessen out
with those minor involvement with gambling which is something not really a bad move or action that they had made at least.The rest of these things would be talking about
on some parenting which would really differ on each parents on how they would really be doing or handling it.
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June 12, 2022, 05:53:02 PM
#78
facial recognition is really the best policy to reduce minors from gambling

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By far it is best but all have weaknesses. The best protection is education from an early age. How does a child know what is ok and what is not. I think if parents notice this all will go well. Relying on the system of service providers and the government will not be effective enough to displace underage users. They have to work together so as to create mutually beneficial circumstances.
education from an early age I think is not very effective because I was personally given education about gambling at an early age (at the age of 11 years) by my parents and teachers but I still play gambling even almost addicted

Today's children have a very high curiosity (about gambling, sex and drugs) and that's really worrying Cry

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June 12, 2022, 05:46:23 PM
#77

 I can attest that its also effective since we are using it too in our company every time there is a need for fast verification. However, even if that technology is very advanced and can eventually pinpoint if you are faking your identity or not, that does not guarantee that it can never be scammed by brilliant minds of minors. Technology should also know that. So for me, its really hard to control the minors these days not to gamble, unless if the parents will take the first step to protect their teens not to gamble.

At the home, the emphasis should not be on restrictions but on education about gambling, we have a saying that the more you restrict the more they will go for it because of curiosity, so parents should expose their children to gambling as a way to educate them but not to tempt them to gamble, children will listen if those telling them are their parents and about the truth of the subject.

Most of the time, restrictions will give these minors a rebellious mood.
So yes, it is better to educate them and be open for discussions about this topic.
Because the more you restrict them, the more they have the nosiness to try the game.
If the parents will set a good example, the kids will have the notion that they need to follow also their parents.
Bottomline, it is how you instill discipline and good disposition in life to these young minds.
In time, they will understand the significance of what your are conveying to them.
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