Minor trust score algorithm change - page 4.

TECSHARE

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Quote from: theymos on May 20, 2015, 04:07:42 PM

In situations like TECSHARE's, you can (if you trust TECSHARE and disagree with Vod) post an additional positive rating responding to whatever Vod said. This will counteract Vod's negative rating.

So in effect, what you are saying is that the trust system is no longer about who trades and who is trusted with what, rather it is now about a popularity contest, and who you can convince to join your own circlejerk club. Can you explain to me why I deserve to be excluded from the entire default trust tree over one rating while Vod can negative rate me (and lots of others) without repercussion negating my entire trust over the fact that he doesn't like what I have to say about him? Every time you "improve" the trust system it becomes more and more arbitrary and able to be manipulated from the top.

PenguinFire

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Good changes staff.

I feel it is a little easier to understand now for newer users.

Muhammed Zakir

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Thank you, theymos! It looks good now.

Quote from: guitarplinker on May 20, 2015, 09:14:53 PM

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I also agree with what others said a few pages back though, it doesn't seem right for users with a single positive feedback to have a +10 score after a year of doing nothing, I definitely think it creates a sense of false trust, at least if people don't go and check out the user's actual ratings.

I also agree. Something should be done about this.

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Quote from: guitarplinker on May 20, 2015, 09:14:53 PM

I'm liking this new trust system, seems to give older scammers a red tag like they deserve. I noticed this on the 'creativex' account, the guy who ran the bASIC-MINING scam now has red trust, and before he didn't.

I also agree with what others said a few pages back though, it doesn't seem right for users with a single positive feedback to have a +10 score after a year of doing nothing, I definitely think it creates a sense of false trust, at least if people don't go and check out the user's actual ratings.

I believe a +10 trust score will eventually even out and not be as much compared to other trust scores. Since the new system basically makes older trust ratings add more value to your trust score. A member with a single trust rating can get a +10 score from that rating alone but nothing more. I do like the new system more, it makes more sense to me and I believe it is easier for others to understand as well. The old algorithm was honestly a pretty big mystery to me that I didn't bother looking into too much.

guitarplinker

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I'm liking this new trust system, seems to give older scammers a red tag like they deserve. I noticed this on the 'creativex' account, the guy who ran the bASIC-MINING scam now has red trust, and before he didn't.

I also agree with what others said a few pages back though, it doesn't seem right for users with a single positive feedback to have a +10 score after a year of doing nothing, I definitely think it creates a sense of false trust, at least if people don't go and check out the user's actual ratings.

Vod

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Quote from: dogie on May 20, 2015, 08:11:33 PM

Brand new trust ratings are worth 1 point, rising to 10 after 10 months have passed.

So old trust is worth more than new trust . I like it.

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Quote from: gampher on May 20, 2015, 08:00:51 PM

Can i ask a clear explanation on what does the 'month' do or its effect? I cant understand it clearly

Brand new trust ratings are worth 1 point, rising to 10 after 10 months have passed.

gampher

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Can i ask a clear explanation on what does the 'month' do or its effect? I cant understand it clearly

Vod

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Quote from: Tomatocage on May 20, 2015, 06:52:08 PM

Quote from: Vod on May 20, 2015, 06:49:44 PM

After a quick perusal of your trust, I challenge that statement.

I stand corrected. Geez man, people getting platinum mad with your ratings.

Most of them are abandoned, throw away accounts.

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My trust network has me at a trust rating of -9999... Huh

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Quote from: dogie on May 20, 2015, 06:58:15 PM

Quote from: Tomatocage on May 20, 2015, 06:52:08 PM

Quote from: Vod on May 20, 2015, 06:49:44 PM

After a quick perusal of your trust, I challenge that statement.

I stand corrected. Geez man, people getting platinum mad with your ratings.

I still have way more. Or maybe Bick does, will be close. [BFL "competition"]

Psh, all I got is stupid BA, I need to start outing more scammers.

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Quote from: Tomatocage on May 20, 2015, 06:52:08 PM

Quote from: Vod on May 20, 2015, 06:49:44 PM

After a quick perusal of your trust, I challenge that statement.

I stand corrected. Geez man, people getting platinum mad with your ratings.

I still have way more. Or maybe Bick does, will be close. [BFL "competition"]

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Quote from: Vod on May 20, 2015, 06:49:44 PM

After a quick perusal of your trust, I challenge that statement.

I stand corrected. Geez man, people getting platinum mad with your ratings.

Vod

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Quote from: Tomatocage on May 20, 2015, 06:37:16 PM

I don't get it. I probably have more negative trust than anybody else on this forum, but my second # is still 0. Are the trust ratings still weighted (sorry if this has already been answered since I didn't actually read the entire thread).

After a quick perusal of your trust, I challenge that statement.

Tomatocage

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Ah, ok. Thanks for the explanation

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Quote from: master-P on May 20, 2015, 06:39:35 PM

Quote from: Tomatocage on May 20, 2015, 06:37:16 PM

I don't get it. I probably have more negative trust than anybody else on this forum, but my second # is still 0. Are the trust ratings still weighted (sorry if this has already been answered since I didn't actually read the entire thread).

It only counts users from default trust, no? All the negatives you have are in the untrusted list, as far as I can see at least.

It only counts users from people within your trust network.

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Quote from: Tomatocage on May 20, 2015, 06:37:16 PM

I don't get it. I probably have more negative trust than anybody else on this forum, but my second # is still 0. Are the trust ratings still weighted (sorry if this has already been answered since I didn't actually read the entire thread).

It only counts users from default trust, no? All the negatives you have are in the untrusted list, as far as I can see at least.

Tomatocage

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I don't get it. I probably have more negative trust than anybody else on this forum, but my second # is still 0. Are the trust ratings still weighted (sorry if this has already been answered since I didn't actually read the entire thread).

marcotheminer

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It does seem like the green points are too easy to obtain (easy to seem trusted) with this algorithm.

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Quote from: Mitchell on May 20, 2015, 04:41:10 PM

At least darkgreen should be hard to obtain. Getting 15 points is pretty easy with this algorithm.

Exactly. Even though my trust list has just 1 person included (that being you), it has jumped with the new changed.
I'm already: 15: -0 / +2
Although others won't see it that way I guess.

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