Topic: MMA Info and Predictions - Bellator, KSW, PFL, ONE... - page 23. (Read 15261 times)

in less than 2 weeks the next ksw event will take place in poland.
the main fight this time will be between the two polish cage fighters Adrian Bartosiński (4-0-0) and Artur Szczepaniak (2-0-0) - both will fight for the welterweight title.
among the planned 10 duels will find two fights with female cast.

Did you also notice, that after people are released from UFC (but they are still active fighters), their career flies down ? Like UFC drinks all the juiced from them. I have never seen any (at least cant remember quickly) anyone who used to be good in UFC, and continued to be good in other promotion (of course if we talk about fighting decent opponent, not newbies or opponents with deep negative records).

Since PFL is more flexible with their contracts, UFC now walks hand to hand with WWE, do you think we gonna see more flexibility from MMA promotions? Like UFC allowing their fighters to compete somewhere else or even do other sport ? For example when a fighter has active UFC contract, he isnt allowed to participate in grapping tournaments, play football on more than amateur level and etc. Sort of a NHL clubs allow their player to participate in IIHC or Olympic games when their team isnt playing.

It looks like this is the breakdown now..

"WWE and UFC, which is owned by Endeavor, are merging to form a $21 billion "global live sports and entertainment company." With the transaction, UFC was valued at $12.1 billion, and WWE had a valuation of $9.3 billion.

"Together, we will be a $21-plus billion live sports and entertainment powerhouse with a collective fanbase of more than a billion people and an exciting growth opportunity," WWE executive chairman Vince McMahon said. "The new company will be well positioned to maximize the value of our combined media rights, enhance sponsorship monetization, develop new forms of content and pursue other strategic mergers and acquisitions to further bolster our strong stable of brands.

Endeavor will have a 51 percent controlling interest, with the remaining 49 percent spread across WWE's shareholders

After retiring from his positions as WWE chairman, CEO and head of creative in July 2022, McMahon returned to the company in January 2023 as part of the board of directors, which fueled rumors of a potential sale".

There's a good bit more of that info here- https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10061347-vince-mcmahon-agrees-to-sell-wwe-to-endeavor-to-form-21b-live-sports-brand-with-ufc#:~:text=After%20roughly%2070%20years%20of,Endeavor%20Group%20Holdings%20on%20Monday.

I like how PFL is handling business, they give more freedom and tournaments competition is great.
Contracts in UFC can also be flexible but only for Conor McGregor, for everyone ekes it is restricted area   
Anthony Pettis didnt have the very good results in PFL, since he came from UFC he lost four fights and won only one in PFL, so he had to try something different.
His younger brother Segio Pettis is doing much better in Bellator, after moving away from UFC he made four wins and his next fight should be against Patricio Pitbull.

Imho they cant retire (mentally), because they cant change their life style. They have been going to gym to train for tens years. Cant let go their past life. A lot of people say that UFC is greedy and their contracts are close to slavery. A new fighter gets 10+10 for a fight and a 3 fight contract. Fighters like Aldo, Stephens, Pettis, Belfort probably were getting 100-200k for a fight. If we subtract taxes, team expenses and etc, I would not say they were living like kings.

Why they go to boxing? Not because they could earn there more (only few professional boxers earn millions, probably less than 50, while there are thousands of them), but because a man must work/earn.  How can it be if you are 35 and you retire. What should they do? Sit on couch or do gardening? Imho they have switched profession.


He is still in PFL roster. Havent found that he is a free agent again. PFL contracts turns to be more flexible than UFC

MMA is taxing to your body and age will catch up to combine all the techniques while boxing is sweet science, no kicks, no wrestling and for an experience MMA fighter, it is much less taxing for their body and overall they are all competitors and earn their living sacrificing their body and hence some of the fighters are returning even after well past their fighting days.

Are they merging or the company that purchased UFC (Endeavor ) is purchasing WWE but they will be in the background and things will continue like usual. Vince will carry on with the creative role

Really late reply here, but that's correct..good old Sacred Heart Griffin.  It's the local catholic high school.  I didn't like the religious aspect of it necessarily, but we hands down had the hottest girls in the city..so I loved it

& Yeah exactly..he was on that Ultimate Fighter show where he earned his reputation and ticket to the UFC.  When he fought Kimbo, Kimbo was pretty much done with his career.  RIP Kimbo


Yeah I'll never forget that Kimbo Slice fight.  You're also right, the problem with Matt now a days is his Age.  We are both getting up there in age and I know for me anyhow, I wake up typically sore as hell..just being an old fart now lol.

Matt was def a jovial person. 


Some big news today with the UFC merging with WWE.  WWE (formerly WWF) was awesome back in the day, of course now that I'm older I've outgrown it a bit, but they just don't have the wrestlers like they once did..so this is probably a good thing for both the UFC and WWE.

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I really think that is a brilliant find and sharing it is a good thing actually curious enough I think MMA fighters tend to still want to fight to find their way in boxing because they know that there is no wrestling or grappling needed just pure striking and that said, Anthony Pettis, Vitor Belfor, and Jose Aldo is all good strikers in the MMA, so a little training with boxing is just needed by them to be good on this even though Pettis has 8 submissions win his KO wins is remarkable, so I think it is a good find but surely their opponent


I think they really stop fighting with their MMA career but, they want to fight badly and they know that they can still progress with boxing if not in the MMA then at least a couple of fights with boxing, or maybe accepting Jake Paul or some retired boxer to face them on an Exhibition match-up or they can even make it as a professional fight, it is up to them, or maybe they need cash and seeing MMA fighters making a big amount in boxing that they decided they will try because they themselves had already had a name in the MMA sports so they can sure gain many viewers


It is a good thing to have a nice warm-up before the big fight in the UFC, well for me both fights will be great, and the recent fight with Larissa Pacheco between the dominant Kayla Harrison it was really a great fight to watch,

No, I totally missed this event and I never heard any news about that.
I was thinking Anthony Pettis is still under contract with PFL, but maybe they are allowing lose roles and boxing fights
For Joes Aldo I heard that he was interested in boxing and he was always good at that, but my boxing favorites are heavyweights like Fury.

Nice warmup for big UFC event his weekend.
I am not that much interested in main event but I really want to watch Bruno Cappelozza vs Matheus Scheffel.
I think Ante Delija is still on poster you posted but he withdrew his participation from this event and Denis Goltsov is his replacement.

It's funny that someone from the UFC goes to Boxing instead of retiring, I wonder why these guys who make a lot of money and keep getting hurt for years still want to keep fighting, they even created exhibition fights to keep fighting even when they're done. they are old, UFC guys learn various martial arts and as in the UFC they throw punches so it is very easy to get used to Boxing, although in Boxing they will spend many hours using only their arms but from what I see not even that is not a barrier that will make them give up

there will come a time when we will see fights between fighters who are already very old and who were legends in the past and the title of the fights will be: "fights of legends". I do not doubt that this will happen, because we are walking in a path where fighters are no longer able to retire, could it be that fighters do not earn enough money to guarantee a good retirement? Why do I keep asking myself why they retire from the UFC but go into Boxing or exhibition fights, but don't retire from Boxing?

in some cases they stop fighting for a while and when you think they are going to retire they start fighting again, why does that happen? Could it be that the money they earn in the UFC isn't good enough for them to retire? What is the lowest salary paid in the UFC?

Anyone watched Gamebred Boxing 4 April 1 ? This topic might not be appropriate place to post, but most of the card was filled by formed MMA/UFC fighters

Anthony Pettis def. Roy Jones Jr
Vitor Belfort def. Ronaldo Souza
Jose Aldo vs. Jeremy Stephens (check out background guy cap )

What can I say - when person retires from MMA, he moves to boxing. Turns out that if person has lost its prime form in MMA, he is still good for boxing. And it is funny that formed MMA guy now fight under boxing rules. I think it hard for them to resist to throw a low kick or try to take down, when they have been doing it against their opponents for ages

Here are an upcoming match this coming Friday, well, it is kind of not that striking but here it is,

PFL 2: 2023 Regular Season

Friday 04.07.2023 at 06:30 PM ET
Venue: The Theater at Virgin Hotels
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States



MAIN EVENT

Larissa Pacheco VS Julia Budd

CO-MAIN EVENT

Bruno Cappelozza VS Matheus Scheffel

MAIN CARD

Denis Goltsov VS Yorgan De Castro
Renan Ferreira VS Rizvan Kuniev

PRELIMINARY CARD

Olena Kolesnyk VS Aspen Ladd
Biaggio Ali Walsh VS Isaiah Figueroa
Martina Jindrová VS Amber Leibrock
Marcelo Nunes VS Maurice Greene
Michał Andryszak VS Patrick Brady
Amanda Leve VS Karolina Sobek
Marina Mokhnatkina VS Yoko Higashi

All information was from TAPOLOGY

It was a fight card for the underdogs where we saw many heavy favorites loosing their fights and one with controversies in judging, Joey Davis was the heavy favorite and he dominated the fight taking Jeff Creighton to ground and controlling majority of the time and Jeff was able to land some strikes while on the ground and when the decision came, they adjudged Jeff Creighton the winner for landing some strikes in the final minutes of the third round .

Rakim Cleveland another heavy underdog won against Christian Edwards and his hype train is over as he completely gassed out in the third round and presented his head and got chocked out  .

I don't think people want to have quantity instead of quality and it's better to have less broadcast with better fighters.
UFC can't buy everything they want, like PFL and Bellator and I don't think it would be good for anyone to have only one big promotion, that is more centralization than needed.

Weight ins finsihed for Bellator 293 and one fight is canceled between Rustam Khabilov and Jaleel Willis because of issues on Khabilov’s side.
All other fighters are good with weight and we can watch them tomorrow in octagon.
Reminder that Bellator prelims are free and posted on their youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKNf5wm8rng

UFC are buying in bulk all MMA-related promotions, events and video to air them on their UFC Fight pass. I dont think this is related to language, viewers, popularity or numbers of fans. UFC only needs two guys fighting video to stream it 24/7 on TV. Their weekly or bi-weekly event is just like 4-6 hours of broadcast time and they need something to fill other 150+ hours of fighting weekly Fans ask for more new fights. So they buy in bulk, they pay cheap.

^ I was thinking of how Dana ripped those fighters which they speak on the youtube video with masks and voices altered. Three is no one really speaking out loud against Dana with details of how they were ripped. We can only see them wanting to stay away from UFC, I guess they are afraid of Dana's lawyer.

Don't you think UFC is paying those MMA-related channels low because it is based on how many subscribers and where their viewers are from?
I'm not really familiar with this but it must be cool to be paid by doing live and then just talking about how the fights are, there are several of these channels every weekend doing live just agreeing Bisping and Rogan.

For example you can search on YouTube for "Hardcore Fighting Championship". It is totally on Russian, but turn on subs (but doubt that it will help much). It is sort of a talk show, where fighter throw lots of poop on each other + a fight after. The idea of all that is that a man must answers for his words.

I would say that this is 65% of drama and 35% of fighting. So much drama, because fighters fight after the show (lol). The script is usually like this: Fighter A calls fighter B, lets say a gay (and for Dagestani and people around that region that is like uber insultingly). Fighter A beats Fighter B. Fighter B gets really upset with that (being called a gay and lost) and with his friends catch Fighter A unexpectedly on the street and beats him. Beats him so hard, that Fighter A gets into hospital. Friends of Fighter A find Fighter B and his friends, and beat them in return. Or call for a fight in HFC.

This is a circulation of broken noses, chins and injuries Endless drama. Other Russian combat related channels catch that hype and makes thousands of vids about that.

Promotion earns on views, ads, copyright and etc.

This is like a milking cow for UFC. That promotion has trashtalk, drama, fights. Perfect mix. And offered very low payment for owners right for that. So answering to "Do you mean they exposed how greedy UFC is through thier channel? " - they do not expose, but that is an example how UFC wants (as usually) pay low for huge demanded content.

I'm interested to know which youtube channel that is. Do you mean they exposed how greedy UFC is through thier channel?  
They don't just exploit the fighters but also other promotions. Dana is quite a guy for this but seems to have gained the loyalty of some fighters still such as Bisping and Colby.

So this PFL video is just one time and yet not available in my country, they must have excluded.

This is not always the case, but they broadcasted this event live because it was first in Europe.
I know ONE FC did something similar with their events, and Bealltor is broadcasting for free only prelims, main card must be purchased.
UFC will never upload full events on youtube for free, but they sometimes upload good fights between top fighters.

Yeah they are, I am mean Dana is greedy, but it's business and they are just trying to earn more, but they share very little with fighters.

I like how PFL upload their up-to-date fights on YouTube and arent against their video to appear on other video hosting. Not like UFC, that throw strikes on video fragments that are longer than 1minute or upload old fights as a promo to a new fight.

In Russia, bare knuckle fights are extremely popular. They have promotions with 2kk+ subscribers on YouTube. Fighters earn same amount (10+10k) per fight as newbie UFC fighters does. The value of this promotion is calculated in probably tens of millions US dollars. Recently I have watched an interview with on of these promotions president. He has said that they had an offer from UFC. They offered to buy his promotion for 100k and pay 20k for each event which they will air on UFC Fight Pass. When that promotion earns around 50k just from YouTube views... This shows how greedy UFC is.