Topic: MMA Info and Predictions - Bellator, KSW, PFL, ONE... - page 27. (Read 15282 times)

A lot of promotions wants to sign Ngannou, but we see no action from Ngannou so far. That is strange imho. The bird is now free, but it does not fly away, just stepped out of the cage and wait. Why do you think Ngannou hasnt signed anything yet? Because he still wants to fight in UFC and waits for a a new offer? When he was in UFC, he talked a lot how he wanted to go boxing against Fury and other big names. To me it looked like his boxing fights are almost organized, and UFC was the only thing that pause him. Now he is a free agent for a month, havent fought for a year. And still hasnt signed anything. The clock is ticking.

We have new twist with Francis Ngannou, everyone wants a piece of him now!
Heavyweight boxer Deontay Wilder, some of you may remember him for losing from Tyson Fury, just said that he wants to have two fights with Nagnnou, in boxing and in MMA!
Deontey Wilder could beat Ngannou in boxing fight, but I am sure we would lose very fast in any real MMA fight against, but that is not all.
Kickboxing promotion Glory said they are also talking with Ngannou about potential deal, and UFC MMA fighter Ciryl Gane praised Ngannou for standing up and winning a war against UFC!
I am not sure how will Dana feel about Gane words, but who cares about that gremlin.

I believe that all of us dont know all the truth and all those background games. Bader is comparing two different things. Payments in UFC while being average or close to top fighter, and payments when he is a champion.

Simple math. If he claims he is earning 8-9 times more in Bellator. Last fight he has earned 150k. 150/8 = almost 20k, an average amount UFC fighter gets for fights+win under his contract.

I've checked several sources. Searched for UFC lightheavyweight champ, Jamahal Hill, numbers:

https://www.mediareferee.com/jamahal-hill-2022-net-worth/
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mma/news/glover-teixeira-vs-jamahal-hill-purse-salaries-how-much-money-ufc-283/wwjakw1kpnlvawpeqo19vjet
https://www.sportspayouts.com/ufc/jamahal-hill-career-earnings/

Long story short, he has earned for 110-210k for his last fight against Texeira. We can suppose he would get same payment for his title defence. So Bader as champ of Bellator earn not much less than if he would  be UFC champ. Definitely not 8-9 times more.

There are only 2 fights which we can bet, Marquez vs Hylton and Abraham vs Graham.

I think this can be an easy money grab by just bet on the underdog, Hylton and Graham aren't really that bad, they're still not have a lot experience. There's only 2 days left before the fight will happen, I don't expect there's will be an odds swing or the odds change a lot. Betting for few dollars seems not really hurt for me.

Sorry but you don't know the whole truth.
There are many other fighters who said the same thing and one of them is ex UFC champion and current Bellator champion Cris Cyborg.

PFL Challenger Series Week 3 is starting in few days with four fights, and we have all big guys in heavyweight and light heavyweight category.
Danilo Marques is ex UFC fighter so it's going to be interesting to see him in first PFL fight against Ras Hylton.
I found this PFL event on Betnomi if anyone is interested to place some bets.


http://pflmma.com/

Bader is not telling everything correctly. It is not about he is getting paid many times more in Bellator than in UFC, it is about his ranking. He has got 150k for a fight against Fedor, 150k for a fight against Corey Anderson (that is what I've found in quick search in wiki). I guess a title fight is paid 100-150k in Bellator. But, Bader was never a champion in UFC. He was an average in the division. He probably got 10-30k per fight. That is where "8 or 9 times better" came from. If he was a UFC champ, that would be a completely different story.

Fedor winning $100k only for this fight and I think Bader won $150k for the same fight.
Bader confirmed that he was paid 8 or 9 times better in Bellator than he was paid in UFC, and other fighters confirmed that.
So no, UFC is not paying their fighters better, except Connor McGreggor that is allowed to do everything, do boxing, have it's own sponsor, break stuff.
Other fighters are not allowed to do that, and most of the many in UFC is kept by Dana and his frens.
https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/2/6/23588238/ryan-bader-scoffs-at-disclosed-bellator-290-pay-says-he-makes-8-9-times-more-than-he-did-in-ufc

Fedor only got $100k is unbelievable. Seem worse than UFC pay. UFC AFAIKA, one can get $250,000 a fight.
But why do they prefer to be with Bellator I guess they just don't want to be under Dana anymore. Several fighters before Ngannou expressed their dissatisfaction with thier contract negotiation.

I think with Bellator, the fighters are free to promote stuff on thier shirt/trunk which they can make money from it.

Cant agree that Fedor is leaving "world of money". First - money never interested him much. Second - wikipedia says he got only 100k bucks for that fight (Bador got 150k). Cant say that these are biggest money I've seen in MMA. I think close to top UFC fighters get similar payment for a fight. I am speaking about top3-top6 fighters of any weight class.  I think for a fighter of his class, popularity, fame, he must have been paid more. But we have what we have. As to Bader - I think he is having bigger and easier money than he had in UFC.

They are brave enough to leave the world of money to pursue their dream to be the strongest and are glad it pays out well for both of them. They don't really need Dana's influence they can make their own names with their talent and since they know there are lots of disadvantages to being in the UFC and they quickly act against it until they get out of it, the other fighters should really consider doing the right thing for themselves if they don't want to be shackled in the UFC with Dana getting more money from them than they getting money as they put their health in the lines when fighting inside the Octagon.

There's One fight night event 7 in the upcoming next 4 days, it's a rematch between Lineker vs Andrade, the first fight was end for no contest because Andrade accidentally striking Lineker's groin. But if we see the fight Lineker is dominating the fight, so Andrade need to prove if he is already learn from the first fight. Although there's a huge difference about the experience between Lineker and Andrade, Lineker have fight for 45 matches while Andrade only 11 matches.



ONE Fight Night 7 Quick Card:

Linda Darrow  vs.  Victória Souza 115 lbs
Uali Kurzhev  vs.  Tommy Langaker 170 lbs
Adrian Mattheis  vs.  Zelangzhaxi 125 lbs
John Lineker  vs.  F. de Andrade 145 lbs
T. PK Saenchai  vs.  Jamal Yusupov 155 lbs
Martin Nguyen  vs.  Shamil Gasanov 155 lbs
Danielle Kelly  vs.  Ayaka Miura 119 lbs
Eko Roni Saputra  vs.  Danny Kingad 135 lbs
S. Fairtex  vs.  ChengLong Zhang 145 lbs
Andrei Stoica  vs.  Francesco Xhaja 265 lbs

Source: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/94524-one-on-prime-video-7

Ryan Bader isnt a kid either, that can drink whole night, unload whole truck of heavy stuff, take 2h sleep and go to gym next day fresh and recovered. We would better find out why Ryan Bader turned from Light Heavyweight into a guy who was just 1 kg lighter than Fedor. Such extra weight can be obtained either by stupidly eating more, or by supplements. I know that at Bellator, they dont check fighters as detailed as UFC does. So maybe that was the trick why we see ryan so quick lately. I can also agree with Fedor being old for this sport, and on Ryans backround, he looked double old and slow.

I thought the same, but Bader was better and after the fight Fedor was happiest I ever saw him
He is a true legend and one of the best heavyweight fighters ever, and Dana White putting shit stickers on him now means nothing.
I am really starting to avoid listening to all the shit coming out from his mouth, but it's not easy, first Ngannou, now Fedor, who is next?
Every champion that left UFC is not talking with Dana, people should ask why is this happening?

At 1st I think that Fedor Emelianenko could have had a good fight with Ryan Dark Bader but seeing Fedor Emelianenko stepping inside the octagon I have said to myself why he is still fighting, he is not the Fedor Emelianenko back in 2021 fight with Timothy Johnson was really epic and he is a different fighter back then I guess 1 year not showing himself inside the ring have some effects on him aswell and combining it with his age, surely Ringrust plus Age definitely take a toll on Fedor Emelianenko,

Magomedov doesn't have the strength in pushing Henry Corrales into takedowns and the guy was way bigger than Akhmed Magomedov you can surely see the strength and height advantage so Akhmed Magomedov would surely think very frustrated not getting Corrales in his takedowns, this surely stop his tracks in getting those takedowns, and begin in the standup which is not really helpful because Henry Corrales is one step ahead of Akhmed Magomedov,


Didn't you see their age difference it was 10 years, and surely enough Ryan Bader is one big dude to tackle even though he is a Light Heavyweight back then he gained weight to make himself look bigger, I really think there is nothing to do with the size but the performance you can see that Ryan Bader is too fast and too accurate while Fedor is just too old, he wobbles every time Bader landed a strike, those punches of Fedor is not the same Ryan Bader could easily read them and just like you have said Ryan Bader is once a Light Heavyweight so he got the speed, well, it is just Fedor Emelianenko was now to slow and too old to handle those speed,

Wont it be better to end career with a victory or have an exhibition fight? Instead of challenging current champion and get face smashed? Perhaps his plan was to win, get heavy weight belt and retire as a champion. Imho Fedor Emelianenko has chosen wrong opponent to put a dot and end his career. If we look on Fedors opponents, then it is obvious, that he has a high win rate against huge and heavy opponents, and low win rate against smaller but quick opponents or formed light heavy weight (Dan Henderson, Ryan Bader - they were all light heavy weights). Fedors trick was speed of a light weight and power of a heavy weight. With that he has beaten everyone in his past. But as soon as he faced someone whos speed matches his, he has lost. Lost to Werdum - Werdum has a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and it helped him to win. Lost to Silva - Silva was better, more lucky, more prepared. Lost to Mitrione - Fedor got old. Lost to Bader - even more old and Bader is a former light heavy weight.

Yup, I thought Fedor had somewhat of a chance before the event.  Lol.  Like Lewis I feel like they're just out there to fight and treating it more like a job and as a way to earn money now rather than going out there for the glory and the W then somehow getting a title shot.  I guess it comes with age.

Henry Corrales on the other hand, schooled Magomedov and showed him what's what.  I think the line was something over 3 to 1.  Bellator events used to have most of the favorites winning.  Now it looks like the books aren't as sharp as they used to.  Could be good to start paying more attention to it.

Well, Fedor Emelianenko has surely used his time well in doing many things in his career not only with MMA but with some we surely are surprised to know about him, but in those years pass his strength is surely depleted and at some point, he will need to stop one career at a time that he can not hold anymore, and MMA fighting is the 1st one to go, surely Fedor Emelianenko was a great fighter for most audiences calling his name while he is going in the octagon, but that was his prime days because right now that prime days can not be replay again, this is the sad truth about getting old, but we will surely remember those years when he is winning inside the octagon, surely hs fans will miss that,


At some point, Fedor Emelianenko and his fans will surely remember at some point when Emelianenko was fighting his winning moments and his prime, there is no shame in losing this actually Fedor Emelianenko needs to be proud at that age he fights Dark Bader at some point in his life was he can not balance when landing a punch because that is what I see from him, we all know he will surely throw punches out of nowhere and at some point without any relatively any technical meaning to it, that way of fighting is not suit to his age now if he wants to win a belt in his age he needs to get advise from Glover Teixeira,

Fedor was at some point the greatest during his prime. This is the first MMA fighter that made me interested in the sport, people are shouting his name in every corner. But yep there is always an end to everything. It does look like he easily got out of balance and then the whole round is just on the ground. Even if you are capable of outsmarting an opponent, age prevents it physically.

It's like a ritual ceremony just when he announced his retirement. The names surrounding him are the few that I remember.

Like someone has expected other outcome from Fedor Emelianenko vs Ryan Bader fight. That is a naturel outcome of a fight between an old fighter against much younger. Age takes its all. You cant expect to be the same at 30 years and at 45 years. No matter how hard you work, no matter if you die in the gym, the age will be your only opponent against a younger and hungry fighter. Fedor must have ended his fighting career when he has changed his path from sport to politics. Wikipedia says that he is now a deputy, a coach and active professional fighter. A person cant be good at everything. Either choose something one, or be satisfied with average results.

in one week the oktagon #39 event will take place in munich/germany.
then the lightweight champion 'black panther' Losene Keita, who is still undefeated after his fight against the best slovak stand-up champion Milan Paleš, returns to the cage.
making his debut at oktagon is elite fighter Niklas Stolze, who has been fighting in the ufc champions league for the last 2 years.
the main welterweight fight will be contested by the crowd favorite 'the kelt* Christian Jungwirth and the brazilian Neves Denilson De Oliveira.