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Quote from: TheNineClub on January 30, 2022, 03:21:56 AM

You know what, Benson is an OG. What a fighter, such a legacy and still going strong. My hats off to him.

Yup, he still has it. I meant the hair that keeps distracting him. He should have braided it whenever he fights.
Amazing how he roll thru when he was about to get slammed but he goes with it landed on top. I still have him in mind to be one of the greatest back in 2010 where most matches are obviously unfair when it comes to sizes and weight. He suddenly disappears in UFC though.

Quote from: tokeweed on January 30, 2022, 10:15:17 AM

^ Lost one parlay but won the other one and the bet on Bader. All the fighters that won in the main card were underdogs. Lol. The books were way off in the main event, the co main and with Homasi vs Willis. And it really looked like the read about Bader’s wrestling being the thing that gives him the advantage was spot on. Gotta thank somebody for that one. Grin

Bader got a little tired at the end of the fifth tho.

Overall it was good. Lots of finishes and some good underdog wins. I hope Bellator match makers keep doing it.

Lots of finishes which is more exciting than in UFC. UD is just overrated.

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^ Lost one parlay but won the other one and the bet on Bader. All the fighters that won in the main card were underdogs. Lol. The books were way off in the main event, the co main and with Homasi vs Willis. And it really looked like the read about Bader’s wrestling being the thing that gives him the advantage was spot on. Gotta thank somebody for that one. Grin

Bader got a little tired at the end of the fifth tho.

Overall it was good. Lots of finishes and some good underdog wins. I hope Bellator match makers keep doing it.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on January 29, 2022, 04:46:00 PM

I was so wrong about Tyron Spong. Not only he is a complete zero in wrestling, but even slow bellyboy Kharitonov outstriked him. Spong ate just every jab Kharitonow has thrown. Just every single punch. I thought that he would show speed and work as number one in the ring, but Kharitonov simply dominated him…

Yeah, that kinda did surprise me. I mean, I had a hunch that Kharitonov would dominate on the ground, but to do this on the feet? I mean, I could chalk up that to Spong being super axious over the possibility of a takedown and therefore opened to shots...maybe. Strange.

Anyway, here are the full Bellator results

You know what, Benson is an OG. What a fighter, such a legacy and still going strong. My hats off to him.

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I was so wrong about Tyron Spong. Not only he is a complete zero in wrestling, but even slow bellyboy Kharitonov outstriked him. Spong ate just every jab Kharitonow has thrown. Just every single punch. I thought that he would show speed and work as number one in the ring, but Kharitonov simply dominated him…

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Here are the weigh in results for Bellator’s event that starts in around 10 hours or so. From a betting perspective, I’m not really sure what I’m looking at. Lol. I haven’t made my bets yet as Stake seems to have some connectivity issues but I would go for Bader in the main event as a live underdog at 2.78. Parlay Mamedov - Willis at 1.73 and Rosta - Gonzales - Mikhailov at 1.79. Lines are from FJ but Stake sometimes gives slightly better lines, but not by much.

The event should be good. Enjoy! Wink

Bellator 273: Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiSHETRtK-A

Champ Ryan Bader (232.2) vs interim champ Valentin Moldavsky (234.4)
Benson Henderson (155.8 ) vs Islam Mamedov (155.6)
Henry Corrales (145.8 ) vs Aiden Lee (145.8 )
Sabah Homasi (170.8 ) vs Jaleel Willis (170.2)
Enrique Barzola (136) vs Darrion Caldwell (135.8 )
Saad Awad (156) vs Chris Gonzalez (155.6)
Duane Johnson (185.6) vs Dalton Rosta (184.6)
Nikita Mikhailov (135.6) vs Blaine Shutt (134)
Lucas Brennan (145.4) vs Benjamin Lugo (146)
Weber Almeida (145.2) vs Fabricio Franco (151.2)*
Sullivan Cauley (205.8 ) vs Ben Parrish (205.2)

* Missed weight, bout cancelled.

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I just signed up on Eagle FC website so I will be able to watch all their events for FREE including this one that is starting in few hours Eagle FC 44 Kharitonov vs.Spong.
They say it's free, no contracts and no gimmicks.
Khabib warned UFC and Bellator to treat their fighters better or EFC will take them, he hired a lot famous UFC faces as commentators, so you can see Pre-Fight Show with Khabib, Kamaru Usman, Henry Cejudo and Chael Sonnen on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb3WgOXBVU8

https://eaglefc.com/

Register, set your reminder and enjoy some great MMA fights soon for free.
I couldn't find EFC fights for betting on any crypto sports betting website, but this could change soon.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on January 25, 2022, 05:48:46 AM

I remember Tyrone Spong from K1. If he will show the same striking speed in mma, then he has good chances against Kharitonov. Kharitonov is experienced, but his prime form was during Pride, Dream and Strikeforce, that is about 10 years ago. If Spong avoids ground game and submissions, he will win. Check out his 14-0 boxing and 107-7 kickboxing record. His wins were mostly by knockout, and on the other hand we have Sergey who hasnt fought a top fighter last years.

In the fight against Cheick Kongo, Sergey surrendered in less than 1 second after being trapped in a read-naked choke. He did not even try to get out. If he had wins by submission in the past, than I wound not count it as a huge advantage in his next fight.

Kongo had more than 30 fights behind him before he fought Kharitonov and a bunch of those were top-tier fighters at that point. Congo also started as a standup fighter but after such a huge background in MMA at the point of fighting Kharitonov, he is sure to have become a more than decent grappler. So him catching Kharitonov in a sub is not out of this planet. But comparing that to better chances Spong could have against Kharitonov just doesn't add up on paper. Again, this is fighting and anything can happen, but the Kongo comparison is not really applicable.

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Quote from: notblox1 on January 26, 2022, 02:35:24 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on January 26, 2022, 05:14:47 AM

Kharitonov 3 last fights were not against top opponents.

Cheick Kongo is top level fighter, ex UFC and he won 31 fights, that is impressive record.
Kharitonov was active, he did some boxing and he is bigger man so I don't see how he can lose this fight so easy.
Training at the gym with sparring partners for more than two years is not enough for this level of MMA.

Quote from: tokeweed on January 26, 2022, 10:01:58 AM

No UFC this weekend so we’re forced to watch the b league, which I really don’t mind. I just wanna see these guys throw leather. Bellator 273 is in the menu.

No UFC but we have other alternatives, don't forget EagleFC by Khabib team is starting in two days and ONE Championship is starting tomorrow.
Main event and some other fights are with kickboxing style, and we have more fighters from Europe this time.
Best part of this is that you can watch ONE Championship event Live and FREE on youtube in high resolution.

https://www.onefc.com/

I’ll watch any b or c league esp if there’s no UFC. Gotta get my MMA fix. Lol.

Anyway, went thru the Bellator card and asked around, didn’t watch any tape or looked at the stats, just from asking for info from people I respect... Bader is a live underdog due to the wrestling advantage. And even though Bader’s chin isn’t really that good anymore, Moldavsky doesn’t really have the KO power for a heavy weight. And for the rest the favorites should most likely win. But if you’re gonna do parlays, buyer beware... There’s always a pie shitter in every card.

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Quote from: notblox1 on January 26, 2022, 02:35:24 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on January 26, 2022, 05:14:47 AM

Kharitonov 3 last fights were not against top opponents.

Cheick Kongo is top level fighter, ex UFC and he won 31 fights, that is impressive record.
Kharitonov was active, he did some boxing and he is bigger man so I don't see how he can lose this fight so easy.
Training at the gym with sparring partners for more than two years is not enough for this level of MMA.

Kongo is a top fighter, no doubt. But Kharitonov has lost to him. Tapped almost immediately, not even trying to get out.
You know we Russian say "The bigger the closet, the more noise it makes when falling", meaning size dont matter. Ok, I got your point. So who do you think will win? I predict Spong to win in the first part of the fight, end of first round probably.

Dont forget about Gabriel Checco vs. Rashad Evans fight. Rashad is a former UFC champ. This fight will have something to look at also. So dont miss it at least in replay.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on January 26, 2022, 05:14:47 AM

Kharitonov 3 last fights were not against top opponents.

Cheick Kongo is top level fighter, ex UFC and he won 31 fights, that is impressive record.
Kharitonov was active, he did some boxing and he is bigger man so I don't see how he can lose this fight so easy.
Training at the gym with sparring partners for more than two years is not enough for this level of MMA.

Quote from: tokeweed on January 26, 2022, 10:01:58 AM

No UFC this weekend so we’re forced to watch the b league, which I really don’t mind. I just wanna see these guys throw leather. Bellator 273 is in the menu.

No UFC but we have other alternatives, don't forget EagleFC by Khabib team is starting in two days and ONE Championship is starting tomorrow.
Main event and some other fights are with kickboxing style, and we have more fighters from Europe this time.
Best part of this is that you can watch ONE Championship event Live and FREE on youtube in high resolution.

https://www.onefc.com/

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No UFC this weekend so we’re forced to watch the b league, which I really don’t mind. I just wanna see these guys throw leather. Bellator 273 is in the menu.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/85140-bellator-273-bader-vs-moldavsky

I really don’t know most of these guys except Bader and Benson Henderson but from what I’ve noticed in Bellator, the bouts are usually a mismatch. The favorite really is the favorite which makes these matches very parlayable. But there will be one pie shitter in there or two.

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When watching UFC pre fights preparations recently, I remember seeing Spong in the gym. He wasnt active since 2019, but I am sure he had sparings with some good opponents. Kharitonov 3 last fights were not against top opponents. One was a former strongman with 21-14 record, other was never considered as a good fighter (I would say average), third fight he has lost. I would not count these 3 fights as a huge advantage.

Both fighters are strikers. I predict the whole fight to be in stance. Kharitonov was never famous for his speed, even in prime. And now he became bigger (how ever Spong has gained also). I think that Kharitonov will mostly throw single heavy punches, maybe a series of 1-2, some rare low kicks. While Spong will do more series on different body levels until one punch connects and the fight will end with a TKO.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on January 25, 2022, 05:48:46 AM

I remember Tyrone Spong from K1. If he will show the same striking speed in mma, then he has good chances against Kharitonov. Kharitonov is experienced, but his prime form was during Pride, Dream and Strikeforce, that is about 10 years ago. If Spong avoids ground game and submissions, he will win. Check out his 14-0 boxing and 107-7 kickboxing record. His wins were mostly by knockout, and on the other hand we have Sergey who hasnt fought a top fighter last years.

This is true what you say but Spongs is not that much younger than Kharitonov and he has zero experience in MMA fighting.
One more thing that I saw is that he was not having any professional fight since 2019 and Kharitonov had 3 fights in 2020 and 3 in 2021.
Age difference is five years, Kharitonov is 41, Spong is 36, andf Kharitonov has reach and weight advantage.
I don't see any real reason for making Spong such a big favorite, for me this will be very close fight.

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I remember Tyrone Spong from K1. If he will show the same striking speed in mma, then he has good chances against Kharitonov. Kharitonov is experienced, but his prime form was during Pride, Dream and Strikeforce, that is about 10 years ago. If Spong avoids ground game and submissions, he will win. Check out his 14-0 boxing and 107-7 kickboxing record. His wins were mostly by knockout, and on the other hand we have Sergey who hasnt fought a top fighter last years.

In the fight against Cheick Kongo, Sergey surrendered in less than 1 second after being trapped in a read-naked choke. He did not even try to get out. If he had wins by submission in the past, than I wound not count it as a huge advantage in his next fight.

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Quote from: notblox1 on January 24, 2022, 10:13:47 PM

Quote from: TheNineClub on January 22, 2022, 06:40:08 AM

Pfuuu, this is gonna be a tough one for Spong. It's always the same issue with stand-up fighters that transition to MMA, how will they make up for grappling and warding of submissions from ground-based fighters. Kharitonov has a solid number of submissions in his career and has had a ton of fights under his belt, so if he makes a smart decision and tries to take it to the ground as soon as possible, it could be bad night for Spong. It's still fighting and anything can happen, but the odds are not in favor of Spong.

Spong is a newcomer with only two fights in pro MMA, and he is facing veteran Kharitonov with 33 wins behind him, so it's not going to be easy for him.
Before coming to MMA he was doing great in boxing in kickboxing and he is noe training in Sanford MMA, Florida, so he won't gave up easy and maybe he wins like odds suggest.
He is a big favorite by bookmakers, that is why I think there is a value betting on Kharitonov to win.

Yeah, I'm with you on that. It's hard for me to think Spong
can come out of this a winner. I made that mistake with Gokhan Saki. Sure, Saki won his first match, but he was given a striker with far less experience. Kharitonov is another beast. Maybe he should have had a couple more fights before jumping up rank, but I don't know what those fights would be.

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Quote from: TheNineClub on January 22, 2022, 06:40:08 AM

Pfuuu, this is gonna be a tough one for Spong. It's always the same issue with stand-up fighters that transition to MMA, how will they make up for grappling and warding of submissions from ground-based fighters. Kharitonov has a solid number of submissions in his career and has had a ton of fights under his belt, so if he makes a smart decision and tries to take it to the ground as soon as possible, it could be bad night for Spong. It's still fighting and anything can happen, but the odds are not in favor of Spong.

Spong is a newcomer with only two fights in pro MMA, and he is facing veteran Kharitonov with 33 wins behind him, so it's not going to be easy for him.
Before coming to MMA he was doing great in boxing in kickboxing and he is noe training in Sanford MMA, Florida, so he won't gave up easy and maybe he wins like odds suggest.
He is a big favorite by bookmakers, that is why I think there is a value betting on Kharitonov to win.

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Quote from: notblox1 on January 20, 2022, 06:01:39 PM

Good news for anyone who is following what Khabib Nurmagomedov is doing with his Eagle FC MMA promotion!
You can watch next event EFC 44 Kharitonov vs. Spong LIVE and FREE on FLX, so maybe it's good thing to register on their website early.
Fight card is looking very interesting with great co-main fight Rashad Evans vs Gabriel Checco.
There are some unknown fighters and I am sure Dana White scouts will be following this event for potential new UFC fighters.

Sign up to watch EFC44 for FREE:
https://goflx.com/

Pfuuu, this is gonna be a tough one for Spong. It's always the same issue with stand-up fighters that transition to MMA, how will they make up for grappling and warding of submissions from ground-based fighters. Kharitonov has a solid number of submissions in his career and has had a ton of fights under his belt, so if he makes a smart decision and tries to take it to the ground as soon as possible, it could be bad night for Spong. It's still fighting and anything can happen, but the odds are not in favor of Spong.

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Good news for anyone who is following what Khabib Nurmagomedov is doing with his Eagle FC MMA promotion!
You can watch next event EFC 44 Kharitonov vs. Spong LIVE and FREE on FLX, so maybe it's good thing to register on their website early.
Fight card is looking very interesting with great co-main fight Rashad Evans vs Gabriel Checco.
There are some unknown fighters and I am sure Dana White scouts will be following this event for potential new UFC fighters.

Sign up to watch EFC44 for FREE:
https://goflx.com/

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Quote from: notblox1 on January 11, 2022, 06:38:08 PM

First Invicta MMA event in 2022 is starting tomorrow with main event FC 45 and main event rematch Alesha Zappitella (9-2) vs Jessica Delboni (11-3) for atomweight category title.
Weight-ins are completed and fights are confirmed, and Delboni is big favorite to win if we look at odds, but she lost the first fight against Zappitella with split decision.
Invicta is only female only MMA competition, and many talents go from Invicta directly to top competitions later like UFC and Bellator.

https://invictafc.com/

Invicta was, for the longest time, the supplier of fighters for UFC, but at times the quality did not match up with the level expected by UFC. I would like to see more avenues for women athletes where they can fight and still have a chance of fighting in the UFC. Some of the European fighters and ones coming from Asia are having a different path to UFC, and it's great to see that diversification. I think that brings the quality up a bit. Maybe some more avenues open in the US as well.

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First Invicta MMA event in 2022 is starting tomorrow with main event FC 45 and main event rematch Alesha Zappitella (9-2) vs Jessica Delboni (11-3) for atomweight category title.
Weight-ins are completed and fights are confirmed, and Delboni is big favorite to win if we look at odds, but she lost the first fight against Zappitella with split decision.
Invicta is only female only MMA competition, and many talents go from Invicta directly to top competitions later like UFC and Bellator.

https://invictafc.com/

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