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First off, no one accused everyone of cheating. If you would read the ann thread and the comment, I have specifically posted for one case the person who has almost 2 identical names and posts almost directly after. We appreciate what advice you give on how to improve the experience. When you create something of value and you have people try to abuse that for their own good and most of them just go to the exchange and dump it immediately, it can temporarily destroy the value of the coin. We work hard on this project and yes, we offered a free handout because we wanted to do something special for the community. Did we have to? Not at all. Do you think it was good marketing? No, not really. I would have rather put this in bounties for active members and people who actually read the posts and comments and care about the project. We made the decision and we will live with the consequences.

Instead of taking time to just defend your side, I ask you to look at it from another point of view. We have a whole community to look out for. If you saw our all of activity and how most people feel about LOL besides people who complained they didn't get airdrops on BTCTalk, you might see things differently. I have asked you to look from another point of view, as I have done so with your point of view. You have brought up some good points and this is a learning experience. I thank you for sharing.




PS: We are working on many other things actually related to the project. We are not looking to waste MORE time trying to prove if people are who they say they are. There are obvious things from the back-end that are red flags. It's that simple, it is not the devs job to see if everyone checks out. We are not private investigators. We are people who honor our word and are willing to do what we said to follow our guidelines. We give people the chance to follow through and come to Discord and chat with us personally, since we are most active there. If that's too much hassle for FREE coins, then we honor your freedom to refuse. If you would only open your eyes to a bigger picture, you would be able to see where we are coming from. And if you ask me to see from your perspective, I have and I do. Trust me I'm a user on BTCTalk as well. If I found out that I didn't receive airdrops because I had multiple accounts or they were suspicious, I would pm them if I was serious enough and join discord if I really wanted the coins. If I knew I tried to abuse the system and they caught me, I wouldn't keep trying to be honest. But that's not my style anyways. All you see is BitcoinTalk FUD on the last threads and think that speaks for the entire project? No - these are a minor few people who have tried to abuse the system for free LOL. You don't see all the happy people comment on here about receiving their airdrops because they are satisfied. Maybe we should ask them to come here and share their stories, too.

Have a nice day

Dev = Guy connected to NAUT, BE AWARE !

waiting airdrop LOAN OR  LEASE [LOL] Total Coin Supply: 7,280,000 coins 

I missed the airdrop by like half a day so I think I have a pretty neutral approach on this, with no coins at present.

An airdrop is a freebie, the rules can be whatever you want and if you have to amend them at any time that is 100% fair game. I do have to say the fact the airdrop ended so fast confuses me as to the actual point of the airdrop. But hey, however they want to run the airdrop is still fair game; it is not something you provided a service in exchange for, but a handout.

For a bounty, when you change things after the fact with no warning or otherwise shortchange people, that is when you have to call the integrity of the entire project into question. Even if the service or advertisement you provide is entirely trivial, that is an actual agreed upon exchange and needs to be honored. That is NOT what happened here (obviously), so I think talking about this being on the permanent record or anything... literally who cares? I get you probably put a minute or two effort into it; if you cannot put in another minute or two to finish the process I fail to understand how it turned into a problem suddenly.

I understand your concern and that's what makes a good community if you sent a p.m. before we cut it off I can honor it if I said somewhere everybody is a scammer I didn't mean it that way I said I thought that there were scammers cheating the system so I need real people to step up and come contact me if you want your air drop, I easily could have put in the Google form fill this out PM me and then come to Discord but I cut that part out assuming everything would run smooth and there wouldn't be scammers if you like I could reopen the airdrop and make it crazy to even apply we could have you fill out the Google form leave a comment p.m. me email me Discord me and then text a specific number or code you got for an airdrop if you rather we come out with everything that we might have to do in case of a scam straight from the beginning I figured we would try to make it as easy as possible to start with unfortunately some people have abused the system and now there's an extra step if that's a problem for you I'm sorry this projects not for you

I got my airdrop and I'm holding on to it because I visited the Discord to learn more of this project. I'm not in it for handouts.

IMHO= the coin and or this project is not bad, im not saying it is good either! the idea behind this is actually something i do for many other projects. RPI"Raspberry PI"  compile the coin , build personalized Operating systems based on their coin or almost anything else needed for the RPI, so this project did intrigue me for that reason. there are a handful of others that do the very same as me and they are cutthroat in as they leave little or no room for being late to a project and grabbing a bounty. but to call everyone a cheater with absolutely no proof is certain not from a person with any business savvy know=how. and putting on his garb and saying we "MUST" do this or do that ? well truth will be in time of the destiny of this project!

It is just me or the project is overcomplicated for a reason?

COLD HARD TRUTH

I'm beginning why they called this project "LOL"  It's nothing but a joke.

Could you imagine Elon Musk calling his investors crying children who make everything harder (even if they do).  

This is basic public relations stuff right here.  I guess this stuff happens early in the cycle of a new technology.  Very entertaining to watch.



  

accusing people on a hunch and without any plausible proof "those PM are what you asked for and prove absolutely nothing" is a public forum is a really bad idea! if you would get accused of something would you not deserve either the proof or some kind of rebuttal??
i find it hard to believe that a person launching his coin using a free and open forum for the launch inviting people to join his project is so obsessed that they are out to get him!
you made the ANN
you made the rules
you made the accusations of everyone cheating
your coin is by far the game changer of everyone's lives, and trying to take people away from where they already are and for  a while you were ok with also, is ludicrous. a year from now look back and say well i coulda, shoulda , but didnt

I completely agree it's you coin and you can do as it with you wish.  However I'm not complaining for a coin.  I'm letting people know what was done here.  In fact I will send your coin back to you if you send me any.  I'm no longer interested as coins that gain a reputation like this have a short shelf life.

As for choices.  It's my choice to let potential investors know this was not a proper airdrop.  It's my choice to let them know you changed the rules at the end, which leads to many other questions about your project.  It's my choice to let potential investors know you accused your community of being cheaters with nothing but your intuition and your superman senses.  It's my choice to to show them there are much cleaner coins out there that did a proper airdrop with audit trails.

Most of the time the ones screaming cheater are the cheaters themselves.  Just because you put disclaimers doesn't make it right and it doesn't make it a proper airdrop.  If we want those type of rules we may as well keep using fiat and letting big brother tell us what to do.  

I see your also changing direction on only discussing this on discord.  Your going back on your word concerning this and we are still on the same thread page.  If your project is strong enough to stand on its own then why are coming back here to respond when you said you were not doing that?

How can investors trust you when you repeatedly go back on what you say?

Is there anything we can trust from this project?

I also don't appreciate people telling me the way I choose to run my business is unprofessional I choose and say you have to come to Discord to get something free from me you must do it what's really unprofessional is this entire form and how everyone is out to get everybody else and if they don't get what they want at said moment they start to complain and whine, if you came at me like an adult and understand my position I would be way way way more likely to give you an airdrop and probably a substantial one if you actually tried to help out instead of make everything harder

We're sorry you feel this way as being a hero member you have a lot of pole in the community maybe you should get with some of the other team members of this form and have them figure out a way to stop people from mass-producing accounts we're sad you have such a bad attitude about this and we realize you probably have never created your own cryptocurrency or run a similar business or type of feature this is okay we realize people are upset I am willing to honor anyone who submitted an airdrop before we stopped them you just need to come talk to me it is almost impossible to go through the hundreds and hundreds of fake account pages that were sent to me look at this screenshot this is not just one page there are hundreds someone has created thousands of accounts that are fake yes I can't hundred percent prove this but look what this looks like it's pretty obvious
https://i.imgur.com/LH5FcCX.png
https://i.imgur.com/LH5FcCX.png

You are one funny person we understand there's no way to aesthetic a who you are over Discord but if you talk to me on Discord and tell me who you are on bitcointalk then I will check to see if you sent a p.m. before we cut off the air drop dates you make me laugh.... coming to Discord helps me realize you are a one person and not having a thousand accounts as I check who your bitcointalk account is

Is there a particular reason you didn't read what I asked you to do which is come chat with me in Discord take a look at this screenshot we have hundreds of pages just like this if you notice everyone's account name is basically a first and last name with 0 posts and they're spread apart between 1 to 2 minutes of requesting airdrop we are a busy developer team once we saw hundreds of pages of something like this there's no point in wasting time people ruined it for you so you have to take an extra step and come talk to me

https://i.imgur.com/LH5FcCX.png

You need to understand it is our choice to give out OUR currency. I plain as day said come chat with me in discord and i will go through the hundreds of pms to see if you are in there. As you probably cannot imagine what this is like or how we can tell there is scammers. Take a look at this screen shot. We have tons and tons of pages of requestes from what looks like someone who created a ton of account. If you have been following us from the beginning you would know we put disclaimers and rules that we could change at any moment it is unfortunate that scammers and people trying to cheat the system ruin it for others that's why I said come talk with me in Discord if it's such a big deal you didn't get an airdrop I will gladly send you a few coins that you have wasted more time arguing to try to get them they are actually worth


https://i.imgur.com/LH5FcCX.png


If you don't realize it you're complaining you didn't get something for free that's not a way to get that something for free come talk to me like a real adult and quit assuming everything is a scam that we're doing

Is there a particular reason, I don`t get my airdrop? I filled out the application and PMed sensill 4-5 days ago and then asked to see why I didn`t recieve it couple days ago on this topic and now I also PMed you guys with the screenshots too. Yet, I still don`t have my airdrop yet. Can someone please tell me what is going on?

personally, i think it is a bad move to make people go to discord just for the airdrop!  = you made an ANN here and advertised here, the people know your project from this forum and if you make them leave this forum it is like spitting in the FREE plate you feed from!
i know for a fact that there will be many that do not go to discord just like i wont ! only for principle of things! i dont have the coins now... so i wont miss anything if they dont come later!  the only one to suffer is this project from over zealous Devs with a contorted outlook on things =the coin


px   calling people cheaters is offensive... provide the proof of people cheating now needs to be public!
provide your method of discovery and  those names that fall in your method if that method is a valid means!

I apologize I went loco by mistake. 

BUT

The question still remains.

How many people did they actually send to?
How many people did they not send to?

Do we have any information at all other than a cheaters claim and a bunch of non payments?

HOW ARE THEY PROVING WHO IS USING MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS?  This is a privacy issue now.  If they really are catching people with multiple id's, for real catching not jut making assumptions, we need to see some proof of that because from my eyes they are claiming people are cheating but they have no idea.

Saying the names are close and that people applied for an airdrop during the same approximate time is no proof at all.

If I'm one of the bot double posters did a juljon19 sign up?  Right after juljon18?

Once again I apologize for wrongly thinking the one post was directed at me.