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Topic: Monero (XMR) Speculation thread - page 5. (Read 50274 times)

legendary
Activity: 3010
Merit: 8114
August 18, 2014, 02:48:52 PM
Congratulations to Monero for overtaking DRK and achieving #1 anonymous cryptocurrency status today. May there be many milestones to come!

I'm confused. DRK is reported at 391K on bitcoinwisdom. XMR is reported at 310K. DRK has 4.5m coins which is more than XMR, so it also much be higher on market cap.


Mintcoin has more coins than monero and darkcoin put together, yet its market cap is small. Number of coins has nothing to do with market cap.
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
August 18, 2014, 02:46:02 PM
Congratulations to Monero for overtaking DRK and achieving #1 anonymous cryptocurrency status today. May there be many milestones to come!

I'm confused. DRK is reported at 391K on bitcoinwisdom. XMR is reported at 310K. DRK has 4.5m coins which is more than XMR, so it also much be higher on market cap.

By what measure do you think XMR has overtaken DRK (besides potential -- we all agree on that certainly).

legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1004
August 18, 2014, 02:40:07 PM
Congratulations to Monero for overtaking DRK and achieving #1 anonymous cryptocurrency status today. May there be many milestones to come!
donator
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1036
August 18, 2014, 11:19:56 AM
Historically anything below 0.003 is a buy, because prices never stayed below for significant amount of time.

After Monero hit the exchange, its volume-weighted average has been below 0.003 for exactly 12 days. (Out of 92.)
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1001
getmonero.org
August 18, 2014, 10:41:28 AM
I'm starting to think this is a great time to buy some Monero. The long term prospects are very good as this is certainly the best of the Cryptonote coins. The question is, is today the day or does it have farther to fall?

Put some orders a bit below 0.003 and maybe they will be filled especially now with bitcoin/altcoin crashing...
hero member
Activity: 538
Merit: 500
August 18, 2014, 10:39:06 AM
I'm starting to think this is a great time to buy some Monero. The long term prospects are very good as this is certainly the best of the Cryptonote coins. The question is, is today the day or does it have farther to fall?

Historically anything below 0.003 is a buy, because prices never stayed below for significant amount of time. I'll give you a free tip: there is a falling trendline that has not been breached and price has bounced lower every time it touched. It will work like that until it won't.
full member
Activity: 222
Merit: 102
August 18, 2014, 10:21:58 AM
I'm starting to think this is a great time to buy some Monero. The long term prospects are very good as this is certainly the best of the Cryptonote coins. The question is, is today the day or does it have farther to fall?
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
August 18, 2014, 09:28:09 AM
BTC is again recovered. Of course you can throw in figures such as $200, $300, talk is cheap. But BTC is not going there. Last year same thing - the lowest bottom was seen long before the final capitulation.

If you check the situation of Monero at the exchange of your choice, there is not much to buy at these levels. Perhaps people are realizing that double hammering an unrelated coin to Bitcoin is not the road to riches.
If only the rest of us had castles to retreat to when we're proven wrong.

I buy or sell on my own decisions.  Of course, there is some influence from others, as building up your decisions can not and should not be a one-mans-world. I get very careful and doubtful when reading from investors that have no castle to retreat to and are highly invested.
I don't know rpielita, but a castle to retreat to is a tiny plus in acknowledgement ;-)
donator
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1036
August 18, 2014, 09:16:56 AM
Was there any specific reason for the recent Monero downturn in price? I know all alts are dropping but it seems that Monero got hit extra hard.

Actually it got hit less than most alts. But still it is funny that Bitcoin worries are either positive, neutral or negative to Monero. If they are negative, then it makes sense that BTC:XMR rate stays constant. If they are either neutral or positive, Monero should gain.

Now its getting hammered. LOL.
full member
Activity: 222
Merit: 102
August 18, 2014, 09:14:08 AM
Was there any specific reason for the recent Monero downturn in price? I know all alts are dropping but it seems that Monero got hit extra hard.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 500
August 18, 2014, 09:13:38 AM
BTC is again recovered. Of course you can throw in figures such as $200, $300, talk is cheap. But BTC is not going there. Last year same thing - the lowest bottom was seen long before the final capitulation.

If you check the situation of Monero at the exchange of your choice, there is not much to buy at these levels. Perhaps people are realizing that double hammering an unrelated coin to Bitcoin is not the road to riches.
If only the rest of us had castles to retreat to when we're proven wrong.
donator
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1036
August 18, 2014, 09:11:31 AM
BTC is again recovered. Of course you can throw in figures such as $200, $300, talk is cheap. But BTC is not going there. Last year same thing - the lowest bottom was seen long before the final capitulation.

If you check the situation of Monero at the exchange of your choice, there is not much to buy at these levels. Perhaps people are realizing that double hammering an unrelated coin to Bitcoin is not the road to riches.
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
August 18, 2014, 09:05:23 AM
too bad monerochain is not working, crazy days right now(would call it black monday), but i know what to do anyway.
watching de diff graph would just give me some more confidence  Grin

Hash rate and difficulty did not changed much in last 4 weeks time. Next price raise, will push difficulty to 1.5 billion in few days time.

Unfortunately the BTC dumps are a killer right now
legendary
Activity: 2730
Merit: 1288
August 18, 2014, 09:02:55 AM
too bad monerochain is not working, crazy days right now(would call it black monday), but i know what to do anyway.
watching de diff graph would just give me some more confidence  Grin

Hash rate and difficulty did not changed much in last 4 weeks time. Next price raise, will push difficulty to 1.5 billion in few days time.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1030
Sine secretum non libertas
August 17, 2014, 11:55:15 PM
I sold my Monero a few weeks ago.
please convey my heartfelt condolences to your family.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1030
Sine secretum non libertas
August 17, 2014, 11:51:36 PM
Zerocash is better than Monero at any rate.

in the sense that imaginary vapourware has an edge over a real working currency with actual value, yes.

it is especially good (zerocash) if you know the accumulator seed so that you can mint infinite currency, since its blinding protocol means no one will even know it happened until their coins skid to zero.  that will certainly make the name apt.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
eidoo wallet
August 17, 2014, 07:47:57 PM
From what I've read, Zerocash will Only allow anonymous transactions, there will be no regular sending.

There is also trust involved in setting up Zerocash, you have to trust that the devs won't keep the key that will allow them to doublespend anytime they want, without anyone knowing.

Those two points make Zerocash a No-No for me. It makes no sense to use a coin that involves trust , that's why Satoshi made Bitcoin in the first place. Bitcoin may have it's 51% mining issue, but there are measures in place to stop such a threat if it happens, but Zerocash's trust issue is far scarier, the devs would be able to doublespend at any time whether they have 50% 1%, or 0% of hash power, and you will Never know that they have done so.

But Monero is not truly anonymous, merely pseudo-anonymous. Doesn't that bother you?

How the fuck is this legendarys' posts in any way Monero speculation? And for what it's worth, he's clearly picking a fight. Another goddamn hero.


I'm not picking a fight. In fact, Monero is the only altcoin I have any stake in at all at the moment. I sold all my peercoin and litecoin months ago at the peak (whcih was mostly luck). I'm merely trying to poke people so I can find out whether there are more and better arguments now for Monero to "win". If people would convince me better I might increase my stake in Monero (current prices while low are still substantially higher than when i bought the Monero I currently own).

Don't pay too much attention to the user roles on this forum. The names are much like the titles used in business mostly self-glorifying. Legendary simply means my activity is above a certain number (the same goes for hero members). If anything, that shows I have too much time on my hands.

...Ok you should ask yourself a question, what are the Real needs to having a coin like Bitcoin and Monero around? Well the answer is clear, you don't have to rely on a central force to issue coins, you are as important as the next person, and in regards to Monero, you get the simplicity of a currency(no gimmicks attached) and the privacy of a fiat with all the added bonus of not having to rely on banks, or sending fees( like paypal), etc etc

The next question you should ask yourself is, Why choose coins like Bitcoin and Monero, over coins like NXT/Ethereum etc? That answer is also clear, the purpose of cryptocurrencies is just that, to be a currency, NXT and Ethereum are more like applications or companies in the case of Ethereum, not currencies. The dollar has one purpose, to be traded/kept as a unit of wealth. The only things a Currency truly needs is to have some anonymity/privacy and to have monetary value, both of which Bitcoin has, but which Monero has expanded upon since Bitcoin only offers psuedop-anonymity, while with Monero you can be completely anonymous(good for citizens who value privacy as well as private companies etc) and Monero also offers regular sending(good for public corporations and people that dont care about privacy)

kbm
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
August 17, 2014, 07:35:19 PM
Its already from #59 to number #43 and it will continue to rise since monerochain will update more recent blocks. It will be back to where it was when monerochain.org syncs...
Let's just sit and wait, ok? You can forecast any place in top, but only time will show were you right or wrong. And if there will be no changes or no growing, i will be able to say that you are scam.

You're a new level of stupid.

They are not guessing the marketcap of Monero, that is already known, they are wondering how long until Monerochain.info is fully updated and that data is fed into coinmarketcap.
You call me a stupid but the facts show us another things. First of all, after 7 hours of sitting and waiting the XMR becomes cheaper (-8.07 %  whine 7 hours ago it was -5%).

But you said that you need a day before XMR will be hight as clouds in the toplist? Ok, i'm waiting.

Are you really trying to insult someone who has nothing to do with coinmarketcap.com .. and using obviously incorrect data to say that the market cap is in actuality based on 351,544 coins .. when in reality there's 2.843 million coins in existence? Are you autistic?

The market cap of Monero right now is 2,843,000 * .0029701 = 8444 BTC = $4,225,797 USD. It is approximately #13 when compared to the list at coinmarketcap. This is ~ 3-4 notches higher than bytecoin. #13 out of 454 currencies they serve is 'pretty high in the clouds'. Maybe you see it up there Wink ?
newbie
Activity: 47
Merit: 0
August 17, 2014, 07:30:34 PM
As traders and trodlers know, sometimes the handling of Monero seems to be a bit special for exchanges and users. Forgotten payment-id, blockchain not syncronized etc. are every-day-events, as I know, because most of my own trading is with Moneros.

Then you need support and find that there are large differences in the quality of support. This has motivated me to open a thread "quality comparison of the exchanges' support":

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/quality-comparison-of-the-exchanges-support-743446

I want to invite all of you to report your experiences with the support of whatever exchange you are using, as a helpful support for other users and - hopefully - inspiration for the exchanges to improve their support.
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
August 17, 2014, 07:09:29 PM
Its already from #59 to number #43 and it will continue to rise since monerochain will update more recent blocks. It will be back to where it was when monerochain.org syncs...
Let's just sit and wait, ok? You can forecast any place in top, but only time will show were you right or wrong. And if there will be no changes or no growing, i will be able to say that you are scam.

You're a new level of stupid.

They are not guessing the marketcap of Monero, that is already known, they are wondering how long until Monerochain.info is fully updated and that data is fed into coinmarketcap.
You call me a stupid but the facts show us another things. First of all, after 7 hours of sitting and waiting the XMR becomes cheaper (-8.07 %  whine 7 hours ago it was -5%).

But you said that you need a day before XMR will be hight as clouds in the toplist? Ok, i'm waiting.
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