Money and wealth as the major religions in world. - page 7.

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Quote from: Lubang Bawah on November 09, 2021, 04:21:11 AM

Quote from: yananda on November 08, 2021, 08:52:37 PM

people look for money for daily needs, but people who seek wealth when they get it will satisfy desires
a lot of people have been trapped and didn't use it for investment until they finally went bankrupt

The mistake of many people is that he is complacent when he has money and only uses it for pleasure without thinking for investment and business, when the condition of his money is exhausted he returns to zero again and this is what makes us always have to invest in many places and crypto is a good choice for now this.

You guys are right, both of you and everyone in this thread saying that money should be invested in something instead of just spent on fleeting pleasures.

But what is the best place to invest your money in? Real estate? Gold? Crypto? In my opinion it's education. First and foremost, invest in your education, guys. Without it even if you accidentally earn big money you'll quickly lose it, and even if you will not, you'll have no idea how to spend your money wisely anyway.

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in a fact, money is the on of the other important thing to have, every single place and time. money need for everything, and wealth be main destination to live a life.
for me, its hard to say that money and wealth is religion, they just destination, not last, but one of the other destination to fill your daily and desire. maybe, the other people think that this two think is their religion.

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Quote from: Snappycoco on November 07, 2021, 11:17:13 AM

Quote from: Bontexkenzy on September 22, 2021, 04:50:33 PM

More than Half of the life span of the human race is centred on making of money or wealth.

Because without it, what would we eat? We need money to have the freedom to buy things that we need and almost all of the time, these things are needed. Water. Food. Clothes. All that needs money to buy and it takes time to accumulate one. However, lets not forget that money is only a medium of exchange to the things that we need. Happiness by heart can't be bought by that.

Money would not be needed in ideal World where people are honest and trust each other. When you need home in such world, people would help you build it for free knowing the kindness will be reciprocated. When you need to eat, you plunk corn from your neighbor's farm and the neighbor will be full of joy that someone has benefitted from his work. I think money/currency would be needed in society where people don't trust each other

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Quote from: Bollexz1 on November 08, 2021, 08:47:50 AM

There's a saying which go thus "Money is the root of evils", in which I somehow believe in too because by the time most people begin making this money they seem to forget what religious is or let me say they pay less attention to it. But unfortunately, money can not buy everything.

I think things like this depend on each other's perspective because again everyone has their own view on this matter. regardless of the saying I actually want to say that money is the source of the problem it is based on greedy people and not everyone is like that although most of them are. but the few people who don't do that you can't equate it. regardless of whether they forget their religion or not it is their personal life with their spirituality and we cannot interfere in that.

Money is just a tool that allows each person to build their life, but how this tool is used is a separate story in each case. You can use this tool for the benefit of yourself, for the benefit of others, for the benefit of yourself and others, for the benefit of yourself, but for the evil of others. We can partially agree with the statement that money is the root of all evil, but only because in modern conditions of life in human civilization it is almost impossible to do without money and they accompany us in all aspects, both good and bad. Almost the same can be said about religion, when instead of bringing goodness and tolerance into this world, religion, on the contrary, is used for hatred and sowing hatred between people. Therefore, I would like to say that money and health are really akin to religion in the modern world, but you just shouldn't go to extremes and build only these two concepts into the whole meaning of your life.

actually the meaning of money is quite simple but not simple enough with what they control because it is indirectly at this time in some cases it is not people who control money but on the contrary money is what controls most of the people who exist today.
on the other hand, as you said, money is basically almost as sensitive as religion which if we go the wrong way will cause considerable divisions between everyone.

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Quote from: Bontexkenzy on September 22, 2021, 04:50:33 PM

More than Half of the life span of the human race is centred on making of money or wealth.

Because without it, what would we eat? We need money to have the freedom to buy things that we need and almost all of the time, these things are needed. Water. Food. Clothes. All that needs money to buy and it takes time to accumulate one. However, lets not forget that money is only a medium of exchange to the things that we need. Happiness by heart can't be bought by that.

like you said, reality is bitter but it is reality.
even though some people say that happiness is not only about money but from your explanation we should already know that we will live hard if we don't have money.
this is why almost everyone is more concerned with money than anything. a lot of violence and conflict caused by money.
Lots of civil wars are based on money and lots of people don't trust each other because of money problems.
it's bad but reality says so

The point being is that money should not be the center of our lives. It can be earned and there's lots out there waiting. It should not be worshipped and cause war between brothers. Violence will never be the solution to hunger and indifference. Its the humility and generosity.

it's true, but on the other hand everyone's greed will always be there as long as we are alive.
and things like this are most likely to be anticipated if we can control ourselves so as not to be carried away by lust and greed.
but things like this are certainly not easy because indeed things like this are the most difficult things in navigating life.
but if we pass and make it through it will be very good and will successfully navigate life.

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I will immediately correct the data:
1. Religion is the same business, moreover, it is power. Be careful not to confuse Religion and Faith. Faith is what is inside us, this is the soul, these are subtle matters. Religion is a hierarchy that stands on one of two, or on two pillars - power and money. Perhaps the "weighting factors" of these entities will vary depending on religion, but will always contain at least one of the entities at their core.
2. About accumulation, values. Perhaps there is a part of the population for whom money is something similar to religion. Yes, we can say that "believing in money as the highest goal", people give their whole life to them. They refuse to themselves and their loved ones in everything, but accumulating bundles of money in boxes. There are such. As a rule, it all ends quite stupidly - in the end, the one who exchanged life for money does not have the opportunity or to fully enjoy it! Perhaps children or grandchildren will get pleasure after such a curmudgeon finishes his earthly journey.
I'll finish with a wonderful phrase (I'm not the author, it's a pity

), which very briefly describes my attitude to life, money: "Money is a wonderful servant, but the worst master"

Unfortunately religion became something so big (no idea how) that people are literally getting wealthy over it by using others faith. There are so many priests out there who owns air jets, no idea what they are called but like personal airplanes where only you and few other people fly instead of huge planes that we buy tickets to. Imagine how much money they are making, what are they doing? They give sermons and so forth, that's it, they are "religious people" for others and they talk and tell people things about their faith.

We have even Islamic nations that literally runs the whole nation with Islamic rules, and the kings? Is that really accepted in the religion? No it is not, so kings live without religion while ruling others with religious rules. Basically religion became something that is used by bad people and faithful good people are getting scammed by them.

Trade in faith, trade in feelings, trade in spiritual secrets ... This is very mean and low. Earn on people who believed you and entrusted their most intimate - their soul. I will not say that all such churches, but many. Sometimes it seems that some churches are a cunning plan of the supreme commander in chief of hell to lure ordinary mortals there, through deception.
When I see how fat priests in robes that do not hang but lie on their stomachs, tell people that living in abundance is temptation and evil, and God will punish them, and then he sits in an exclusive Maybach and leaves to ride a yacht with "girls" what options are there not to think of him as a servant of hell ...
But I repeat - not all churches are like that ... Not all ministers of religious movements succumbed and slipped into a state where they completely deny what they teach people with their actions ... There are people who really bring goodness, help, knowledge, strength ...

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Nobody wants to be poor, working for 18 hours, going to school getting your degree certificate which some people pursue till Proffesor level is to be relevant in this life, I won't call it a religion though.

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Quote from: alpamar99 on November 07, 2021, 11:44:55 AM

Quote from: Snappycoco on November 07, 2021, 11:17:13 AM

Quote from: Bontexkenzy on September 22, 2021, 04:50:33 PM

More than Half of the life span of the human race is centred on making of money or wealth.

Because without it, what would we eat? We need money to have the freedom to buy things that we need and almost all of the time, these things are needed. Water. Food. Clothes. All that needs money to buy and it takes time to accumulate one. However, lets not forget that money is only a medium of exchange to the things that we need. Happiness by heart can't be bought by that.

like you said, reality is bitter but it is reality.
even though some people say that happiness is not only about money but from your explanation we should already know that we will live hard if we don't have money.
this is why almost everyone is more concerned with money than anything. a lot of violence and conflict caused by money.
Lots of civil wars are based on money and lots of people don't trust each other because of money problems.
it's bad but reality says so

The point being is that money should not be the center of our lives. It can be earned and there's lots out there waiting. It should not be worshipped and cause war between brothers. Violence will never be the solution to hunger and indifference. Its the humility and generosity.

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Quote from: yananda on November 08, 2021, 08:52:37 PM

people look for money for daily needs, but people who seek wealth when they get it will satisfy desires
a lot of people have been trapped and didn't use it for investment until they finally went bankrupt

The mistake of many people is that he is complacent when he has money and only uses it for pleasure without thinking for investment and business, when the condition of his money is exhausted he returns to zero again and this is what makes us always have to invest in many places and crypto is a good choice for now this.

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I think that people already have a chain linked by money, wealth is always the desire of anyone, they expect to have a financial sustainability. It can be like a closely connected religion to share and motivate each other as examples. But I think, it's completely possible to transcend the framework of an ordinary religion, it is bigger and pervades anywhere there is an opportunity to make money and get rich. Crypto has things that are not easy to get, outside of society, that opportunity is even less. There is no need to change the nature, just be able to change the consciousness, that will limit the occurrence of accidents.

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people look for money for daily needs, but people who seek wealth when they get it will satisfy desires
a lot of people have been trapped and didn't use it for investment until they finally went bankrupt

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Quote from: Bollexz1 on November 08, 2021, 08:47:50 AM

There's a saying which go thus "Money is the root of evils", in which I somehow believe in too because by the time most people begin making this money they seem to forget what religious is or let me say they pay less attention to it. But unfortunately, money can not buy everything.

the statement is not entirely true, for people who are willing to do evil for money maybe the statement is true. but for people who get money the right way money is the root of happiness because with money he can get what he wants and can make the people he cares about happy. basically it all depends on how to get the money and how to use the money.

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Quote from: izsara on November 08, 2021, 04:32:29 PM

Quote from: Bollexz1 on November 08, 2021, 08:47:50 AM

There's a saying which go thus "Money is the root of evils", in which I somehow believe in too because by the time most people begin making this money they seem to forget what religious is or let me say they pay less attention to it. But unfortunately, money can not buy everything.

I think things like this depend on each other's perspective because again everyone has their own view on this matter. regardless of the saying I actually want to say that money is the source of the problem it is based on greedy people and not everyone is like that although most of them are. but the few people who don't do that you can't equate it. regardless of whether they forget their religion or not it is their personal life with their spirituality and we cannot interfere in that.

Money is just a tool that allows each person to build their life, but how this tool is used is a separate story in each case. You can use this tool for the benefit of yourself, for the benefit of others, for the benefit of yourself and others, for the benefit of yourself, but for the evil of others. We can partially agree with the statement that money is the root of all evil, but only because in modern conditions of life in human civilization it is almost impossible to do without money and they accompany us in all aspects, both good and bad. Almost the same can be said about religion, when instead of bringing goodness and tolerance into this world, religion, on the contrary, is used for hatred and sowing hatred between people. Therefore, I would like to say that money and health are really akin to religion in the modern world, but you just shouldn't go to extremes and build only these two concepts into the whole meaning of your life.

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Quote from: Bollexz1 on November 08, 2021, 08:47:50 AM

There's a saying which go thus "Money is the root of evils", in which I somehow believe in too because by the time most people begin making this money they seem to forget what religious is or let me say they pay less attention to it. But unfortunately, money can not buy everything.

I think things like this depend on each other's perspective because again everyone has their own view on this matter.
regardless of the saying I actually want to say that money is the source of the problem it is based on greedy people and not everyone is like that although most of them are.
but the few people who don't do that you can't equate it.
regardless of whether they forget their religion or not it is their personal life with their spirituality and we cannot interfere in that.

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Quote from: Bollexz1 on November 08, 2021, 08:47:50 AM

There's a saying which go thus "Money is the root of evils", in which I somehow believe in too because by the time most people begin making this money they seem to forget what religious is or let me say they pay less attention to it. But unfortunately, money can not buy everything.

I disagree! Money, when properly positioned and used correctly, is a very useful entity! I am absolutely sure that living well and in abundance is good. BUT as I wrote above "Money is a good SERVANT", but money as your OWNER is really evil! Live not for money, live for LIFE, pleasure, joy, beautiful views, laughter of children, joyful eyes of old people, good health, knowledge, etc. And money should only be a small part that just makes it easier to get the above.

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There's a saying which go thus "Money is the root of evils", in which I somehow believe in too because by the time most people begin making this money they seem to forget what religious is or let me say they pay less attention to it. But unfortunately, money can not buy everything.

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Quote from: Ngewex Yuk on November 07, 2021, 10:44:42 AM

Everyone always makes money their first priority, people are willing to work in other countries and have to leave their children and wives because they hope to improve their lives, all because they are afraid to be poor and hope to live in prosperity so they can enjoy life.

Everyone has different principles, just as there are those who have the principle that money is everything or vice versa, money is not everything.
what is clear is that everyone I think definitely wants to have stable finances and it's not easy it takes more effort

I agree that everyone's life principles are different, but it's very difficult to live up to the principle that money isn't everything in this day. Because to
live a happy life today it must be admitted that it requires stable finances, so in other words money does play an important role. Therefore,
most people work hard and do whatever it takes to make money. Even for some people to violate things that are forbidden by religion in order
to get money, so money can be said to be everything. Especially with the existence of social media where some people show their wealth to get
recognition from the community, making more and more people make money the most important thing in their lives.

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Quote from: DrBeer on November 07, 2021, 09:21:32 AM

I will immediately correct the data:
1. Religion is the same business, moreover, it is power. Be careful not to confuse Religion and Faith. Faith is what is inside us, this is the soul, these are subtle matters. Religion is a hierarchy that stands on one of two, or on two pillars - power and money. Perhaps the "weighting factors" of these entities will vary depending on religion, but will always contain at least one of the entities at their core.
2. About accumulation, values. Perhaps there is a part of the population for whom money is something similar to religion. Yes, we can say that "believing in money as the highest goal", people give their whole life to them. They refuse to themselves and their loved ones in everything, but accumulating bundles of money in boxes. There are such. As a rule, it all ends quite stupidly - in the end, the one who exchanged life for money does not have the opportunity or to fully enjoy it! Perhaps children or grandchildren will get pleasure after such a curmudgeon finishes his earthly journey.
I'll finish with a wonderful phrase (I'm not the author, it's a pity

), which very briefly describes my attitude to life, money: "Money is a wonderful servant, but the worst master"

Unfortunately religion became something so big (no idea how) that people are literally getting wealthy over it by using others faith. There are so many priests out there who owns air jets, no idea what they are called but like personal airplanes where only you and few other people fly instead of huge planes that we buy tickets to. Imagine how much money they are making, what are they doing? They give sermons and so forth, that's it, they are "religious people" for others and they talk and tell people things about their faith.

We have even Islamic nations that literally runs the whole nation with Islamic rules, and the kings? Is that really accepted in the religion? No it is not, so kings live without religion while ruling others with religious rules. Basically religion became something that is used by bad people and faithful good people are getting scammed by them.

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Quote from: Poker Player on September 23, 2021, 01:20:26 AM

Although I get the idea of what you mean in a figurative way, strictly speaking, what you say is incorrect.

Money and wealth are not institutions to which people pray. Money and wealth are of this life and speak nothing of what happens when you die, which is a central theme of religions, etc.

On the other hand, I see nothing wrong with people accumulating money and wealth, as long as it is in an honest way. I believe that an essential part of the economic progress of nations comes from the accumulation of capital and the investment of that same capital.

Yeah, Idk what connections he found between money and the major religions of the world. Every religion tells human that money is bad, he/she has to get rid of it (According to Christianity, if person is rich, he/she better to sell everything and give the wealth to a poor people).
But the reality of very different, people usually say that they are religious but actually don't follow the religions. But the reason people are centered on money earning is that we just simple need it. Don't you have money? Then you are nothing, no one will respect you, you won't have food, you won't be able to spend fun time, you won't be able to get hospital treatment in case you need it. Our society values people who have a lot of money, no one wants poor, that's all. Sometimes life is very different from the religion that people follow and usually, this world will never be what you have expected.

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Of course it comes back to your woman in search of money. Whether to fulfill desires as a natural human desire or to fulfill the needs of life and provide welfare to the people we strive for such as families and in order to fulfill basic needs. especially in this case money makes it easier for someone not to feel hungry, making it easier for someone to be able to buy what is needed.
However, if it is only for the satisfaction of lust and used for exhibition, it will be very contrary to the concept of religion and the concept of life.

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