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Quote from: RHavar on October 20, 2016, 11:00:33 PM

Quote from: ranlo on October 20, 2016, 10:51:51 PM

It reminds me a lot of the calls people get "from the IRS" demanding they either pay the "IRS" using Western Union wires or they will go to prison, and there are people wiring tens of thousands of dollars to avoid jail time. To the "IRS" that is apparently not even in the U.S. Like someone wired their money to Panama. I'm like... really? And it's apparently a multi-million dollar business.

Yeah lol. I guess if you've ripped the IRS off, you're feeling scared and not thinking straight.

The most devious scam along those lines I've heard, is they find a husband and wifes phone number. They call the husband when he's at work and pretend to be the phone carrier: "Hey, this is AT&T, we're calling to let you know we're upgrading your phone speed! blah blah blah. But you will need to turn your phone off for 1 hour, is that ok?"

Then after the husband turns off his phone, they call the wife and tell her they've kidnapped the husband -- and she needs to immediately transfer money or he's going to be killed. Then they send her the transfer details. Obviously the first thing she tries to do is contact her husband, but can't and then makes the transfer.

Truly awful :/

This one's been growing in number big time lately. People will seriously do anything to make a dollar. There was a news report about someone who got a call about her "daughter" that was kidnapped... while they were together. So she brought it to light on social media and other places.

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Bye Felisha!

Quote from: RHavar on October 20, 2016, 11:00:33 PM

Quote from: ranlo on October 20, 2016, 10:51:51 PM

It reminds me a lot of the calls people get "from the IRS" demanding they either pay the "IRS" using Western Union wires or they will go to prison, and there are people wiring tens of thousands of dollars to avoid jail time. To the "IRS" that is apparently not even in the U.S. Like someone wired their money to Panama. I'm like... really? And it's apparently a multi-million dollar business.

Yeah lol. I guess if you've ripped the IRS off, you're feeling scared and not thinking straight.

The most devious scam along those lines I've heard, is they find a husband and wifes phone number. They call the husband when he's at work and pretend to be the phone carrier: "Hey, this is AT&T, we're calling to let you know we're upgrading your phone speed! blah blah blah. But you will need to turn your phone off for 1 hour, is that ok?"

Then after the husband turns off his phone, they call the wife and tell her they've kidnapped the husband -- and she needs to immediately transfer money or he's going to be killed. Then they send her the transfer details. Obviously the first thing she tries to do is contact her husband, but can't and then makes the transfer.

Truly awful :/

Haven't heard of that one... But I'm not turning my phone off for anything. Its my life line..

RHavar

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Quote from: ranlo on October 20, 2016, 10:51:51 PM

It reminds me a lot of the calls people get "from the IRS" demanding they either pay the "IRS" using Western Union wires or they will go to prison, and there are people wiring tens of thousands of dollars to avoid jail time. To the "IRS" that is apparently not even in the U.S. Like someone wired their money to Panama. I'm like... really? And it's apparently a multi-million dollar business.

Yeah lol. I guess if you've ripped the IRS off, you're feeling scared and not thinking straight.

The most devious scam along those lines I've heard, is they find a husband and wifes phone number. They call the husband when he's at work and pretend to be the phone carrier: "Hey, this is AT&T, we're calling to let you know we're upgrading your phone speed! blah blah blah. But you will need to turn your phone off for 1 hour, is that ok?"

Then after the husband turns off his phone, they call the wife and tell her they've kidnapped the husband -- and she needs to immediately transfer money or he's going to be killed. Then they send her the transfer details. Obviously the first thing she tries to do is contact her husband, but can't and then makes the transfer.

Truly awful :/

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Bye Felisha!

Quote from: ranlo on October 20, 2016, 10:51:51 PM

Quote from: RHavar on October 20, 2016, 10:38:29 PM

Quote from: ranlo on October 20, 2016, 10:29:44 PM

On an interesting note, they claim to have kept our site down for the past few hours (based on wording in the emails). There's been zero slowdown or anything, though, so either they don't know what a DDoS is or I don't. Because we clearly have differing opinions on what it means to take a site offline.

Are you sure it's not just an empty threat? I've got quite a few threats asking for money, with *zero* follow-through, just in the off change they get paid. Every time someone serious has attacked one of my sites, they've always DDoS to the point it's offline, with the timeframes of when the demo attack will stop and then asking for money before the attack goes on again. Although even they have tended to get bored pretty quickly when it's obvious they're never going to get paid.

Cloudflare actually made a good blog post about some of the fake ddos threats: https://blog.cloudflare.com/empty-ddos-threats-meet-the-armada-collective/

Here's the saddest part:

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Our conclusion was a bit of a surprise: we've been unable to find a single incident where the current incarnation of the Armada Collective has actually launched a DDoS attack. In fact, because the extortion emails reuse Bitcoin addresses, there's no way the Armada Collective can tell who has paid and who has not. In spite of that, the cybercrooks have collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in extortion payments.

It reminds me a lot of the calls people get "from the IRS" demanding they either pay the "IRS" using Western Union wires or they will go to prison, and there are people wiring tens of thousands of dollars to avoid jail time. To the "IRS" that is apparently not even in the U.S. Like someone wired their money to Panama. I'm like... really? And it's apparently a multi-million dollar business.

Wait... I need to call my bank.. I tried explaining to that IRS guy that I didn't get my money from Prince Hickapa yet but he didn't buy it.

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Quote from: RHavar on October 20, 2016, 10:38:29 PM

Quote from: ranlo on October 20, 2016, 10:29:44 PM

On an interesting note, they claim to have kept our site down for the past few hours (based on wording in the emails). There's been zero slowdown or anything, though, so either they don't know what a DDoS is or I don't. Because we clearly have differing opinions on what it means to take a site offline.

Are you sure it's not just an empty threat? I've got quite a few threats asking for money, with *zero* follow-through, just in the off change they get paid. Every time someone serious has attacked one of my sites, they've always DDoS to the point it's offline, with the timeframes of when the demo attack will stop and then asking for money before the attack goes on again. Although even they have tended to get bored pretty quickly when it's obvious they're never going to get paid.

Cloudflare actually made a good blog post about some of the fake ddos threats: https://blog.cloudflare.com/empty-ddos-threats-meet-the-armada-collective/

Here's the saddest part:

Quote

Our conclusion was a bit of a surprise: we've been unable to find a single incident where the current incarnation of the Armada Collective has actually launched a DDoS attack. In fact, because the extortion emails reuse Bitcoin addresses, there's no way the Armada Collective can tell who has paid and who has not. In spite of that, the cybercrooks have collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in extortion payments.

It reminds me a lot of the calls people get "from the IRS" demanding they either pay the "IRS" using Western Union wires or they will go to prison, and there are people wiring tens of thousands of dollars to avoid jail time. To the "IRS" that is apparently not even in the U.S. Like someone wired their money to Panama. I'm like... really? And it's apparently a multi-million dollar business.

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37Ymp6HJLMVnxvhdFFH9C2jpRcB7LTmZPc

http://i.imgur.com/1OPYxX0.png

CrazyCraig

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Bye Felisha!

Quote from: RHavar on October 20, 2016, 10:38:29 PM

Quote from: ranlo on October 20, 2016, 10:29:44 PM

On an interesting note, they claim to have kept our site down for the past few hours (based on wording in the emails). There's been zero slowdown or anything, though, so either they don't know what a DDoS is or I don't. Because we clearly have differing opinions on what it means to take a site offline.

Are you sure it's not just an empty threat? I've got quite a few threats asking for money, with *zero* follow-through, just in the off change they get paid. Every time someone serious has attacked one of my sites, they've always DDoS to the point it's offline, with the timeframes of when the demo attack will stop and then asking for money before the attack goes on again. Although even they have tended to get bored pretty quickly when it's obvious they're never going to get paid.

Cloudflare actually made a good blog post about some of the fake ddos threats: https://blog.cloudflare.com/empty-ddos-threats-meet-the-armada-collective/

Here's the saddest part:

Quote

Our conclusion was a bit of a surprise: we've been unable to find a single incident where the current incarnation of the Armada Collective has actually launched a DDoS attack. In fact, because the extortion emails reuse Bitcoin addresses, there's no way the Armada Collective can tell who has paid and who has not. In spite of that, the cybercrooks have collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in extortion payments.

We did experience a small window of downtime earlier today from the DDOS. ~30 mins. It was quickly rectified. Unfortunately, DDOS is just part of this industry. Happens to the best.

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Quote from: ranlo on October 20, 2016, 10:29:44 PM

On an interesting note, they claim to have kept our site down for the past few hours (based on wording in the emails). There's been zero slowdown or anything, though, so either they don't know what a DDoS is or I don't. Because we clearly have differing opinions on what it means to take a site offline.

Are you sure it's not just an empty threat? I've got quite a few threats asking for money, with *zero* follow-through, just in the off change they get paid. Every time someone serious has attacked one of my sites, they've always DDoS to the point it's offline, with the timeframes of when the demo attack will stop and then asking for money before the attack goes on again. Although even they have tended to get bored pretty quickly when it's obvious they're never going to get paid.

Cloudflare actually made a good blog post about some of the fake ddos threats: https://blog.cloudflare.com/empty-ddos-threats-meet-the-armada-collective/

Here's the saddest part:

Quote

Our conclusion was a bit of a surprise: we've been unable to find a single incident where the current incarnation of the Armada Collective has actually launched a DDoS attack. In fact, because the extortion emails reuse Bitcoin addresses, there's no way the Armada Collective can tell who has paid and who has not. In spite of that, the cybercrooks have collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in extortion payments.

ranlo

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Quote from: RHavar on October 20, 2016, 09:48:07 PM

Quote from: Michail1 on October 20, 2016, 09:29:15 PM

You mean if you pay him, he would never come back and do it again when he/she/they want more bitcoin?

Yeah, paying those assholes is a lose-lose situation. You support a criminal, and set yourself up as a sucker who is known to give out money. It's a lot better to be known as someone who won't pay a cent even if your site goes down, than someone who will.

Keep fighting the good fight Grin

On an interesting note, they claim to have kept our site down for the past few hours (based on wording in the emails). There's been zero slowdown or anything, though, so either they don't know what a DDoS is or I don't. Because we clearly have differing opinions on what it means to take a site offline.

RHavar

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Quote from: Michail1 on October 20, 2016, 09:29:15 PM

You mean if you pay him, he would never come back and do it again when he/she/they want more bitcoin?

Yeah, paying those assholes is a lose-lose situation. You support a criminal, and set yourself up as a sucker who is known to give out money. It's a lot better to be known as someone who won't pay a cent even if your site goes down, than someone who will.

Keep fighting the good fight Grin

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Quote from: gamblingbad on October 01, 2016, 02:13:52 PM

what adress is moneypot coldwallet.

Majority of funds are currently sitting in ~~3NyaoA73hZd1e6Rj4naYgyGMCF9kKSiBAe~~ 37Ymp6HJLMVnxvhdFFH9C2jpRcB7LTmZPc . Rest is spread through hot wallet, multi-sig wallets with whale investors for added personal security, and mixing funds wallet.

It was difficult keeping the dicesites address maintained because it required sending all funds back to that address because of the splitting outputs when we sent out transactions.

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Quote from: Dogedigital on October 20, 2016, 09:09:39 PM

Please note we may be down at times due to a ddos attack. We will not be extorted.

You mean if you pay him, he would never come back and do it again when he/she/they want more bitcoin?

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Quote from: Dogedigital on October 20, 2016, 09:09:39 PM

Please note we may be down at times due to a ddos attack. We will not be extorted.

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Hello,

You have 1 hour and 20 minutes left for the payment.
Since we haven't heard back from you, your website will go down for the 1 hour and 20 minutes until 5 BTC is sent to 1Az7TzV7vD5etpJNz1h9JV6NzCBjyzgaez
If the payment is completed within the 1 hour and 20 minutes, we will leave you guys alone. If not, much larger attacks will occur and the price to stop will be increased to 7.5BTC

Regards,
ONICPtr

agree thats the spirit, every a bit serious site shouldnt pay them. hopefully it wont take long.
regards.
-Katerniko1

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Please note we may be down at times due to a ddos attack. We will not be extorted.

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Hello,

You have 1 hour and 20 minutes left for the payment.
Since we haven't heard back from you, your website will go down for the 1 hour and 20 minutes until 5 BTC is sent to 1Az7TzV7vD5etpJNz1h9JV6NzCBjyzgaez
If the payment is completed within the 1 hour and 20 minutes, we will leave you guys alone. If not, much larger attacks will occur and the price to stop will be increased to 7.5BTC

Regards,
ONICPtr

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Satoshi is rolling in his grave. #bitcoin

Quote from: abreezy on October 20, 2016, 06:54:36 PM

was the bet legit?

MP paused his WD to check it, giving him only partial amount of payout, but it turned out pretty fast that the bet was indeed legit,
and he was paid out in full. On a personal note, i thought the guy will be a bit more excited in chat, and he seamed pretty indiferent to me (for a jackpot winner of 72 freaking bitcoins)

abreezy

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was the bet legit?

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Quote from: RHavar on October 20, 2016, 05:32:48 PM

Quote from: superbit on October 20, 2016, 05:10:44 PM

Curious on this, should moneypot have accepted the bet then?

Yeah, seems fine. Based on the bet stats it seems the the bet was ~2.766x kelly, and I believe investors will back any bet up till a 3.333x

I personally disagree with such leverage, but there's definitely some legit reasons to do so (namely attract gamblers who would otherwise find the limits too restrictive, and allow investors to deposit less but still risk a lot, to minimize counter-party risk). It's what investors signed up to, so it seems fair (and it's certainly a lot less risky then the guy doing the gambling)

I thought MP ran at a 2x Kelly last I heard....3.333x is a little absurd I feel like.

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Quote from: superbit on October 20, 2016, 05:10:44 PM

Curious on this, should moneypot have accepted the bet then?

Yeah, seems fine. Based on the bet stats it seems the the bet was ~2.766x kelly, and I believe investors will back any bet up till a 3.333x

I personally disagree with such leverage, but there's definitely some legit reasons to do so (namely attract gamblers who would otherwise find the limits too restrictive, and allow investors to deposit less but still risk a lot, to minimize counter-party risk). It's what investors signed up to, so it seems fair (and it's certainly a lot less risky then the guy doing the gambling)

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Quote from: Lanzador on September 30, 2016, 12:57:02 PM

Quote from: AcoinL.L.C on September 30, 2016, 10:59:03 AM

Quote from: retrocoingames on September 30, 2016, 04:42:58 AM

Come on MoneyPots! Waiting for the bankroll to go positive

The bankroll is in the positive (+355 at the moment)

What's the site that has that graph of investor profits / bankroll level over time?

www.eeeth.com/mpstats

Dogedigital

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~99% of the bets are all under max win 1.5btc.

While it is true that it could enter negative growth if the majority of bets were near the max bet threshold, that is not the case here and just because a kelly is available at more than 2 does not necessarily mean investors should expect to lose money over the long term.

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