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Dogedigital

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Quote from: JackpotRacer on June 06, 2016, 08:43:23 AM

Quote from: Dogedigital on June 06, 2016, 08:29:57 AM

Quote from: JackpotRacer on June 06, 2016, 03:12:32 AM

Quote from: shulio on June 06, 2016, 01:53:33 AM

Quote from: Dogedigital on June 05, 2016, 10:03:34 PM

Quote from: Pseudo-Random on June 05, 2016, 09:03:31 PM

**snip**

Thanks for taking the time to scout the site allowing for improvement and changes. We appreciate it and will fix it up shortly.

Rest assured, work is constantly being done on Moneypot.

Everyday is exciting and we have a few surprises for everybody lined up in the near future that I think will be to everyone's delight.

.................................................................https://www.moneypot.com/me/account. It shows up dust dice there, might have been ryan's leftover and IMO it is not really fair for the other casino, it should be a link to the all apps tab where player can see all the approved apps

>>>it is not really fair for the other casino<<<

nice catch but an old story and thank you for bringing it up! it is not fair and how many times I said this and got (witch)hunted

Dust Dice was put there because it was Ryan's app and he gave himself a preferred treatment and also to other apps(owners)

there is always a way to treat all fair and equal ( but only if someone wants to do it )

how about the 3 apps advertised here http://imgur.com/wLVwDoQ

the middle one is now rotating each 2 days and the other 2 left and right are glued. why are they glued? if the middle one can be rotated imo the other 2 can also be rotated. is this fair? imo No!

They were all 'glued' before. We stated multiple times that we weren't going to change any of them until the new graphics were in place, but since we were unhappy with how RayBrady handed over DustDice, we decided to open up the spot (which is the prime spot) for other apps to get exposure. The front spot has been random and provably fair for featured apps.

'Fair' would have been just to keep it that way (all glued) but I doubt that this is what you wanted.

that you could change the middle one means they are not glued and they are changeable. but as you said that you = new owner of MP will not to touch them is saying and confirming that the owner can do as he likes but that does not mean that it is right or fair. why not rotate all 3? that would be FAIR! MP has many apps and it would do them maybe good to be there for a given time

as always my 2 cents

We only changed the middle spot because we didn't want to fully support DustDice.

We opened it up so that other app owners could get more exposure and made it a fair rotating spot based on provably fair drawing.

If your claims of 'doing whatever we like' was right, I would have plastered SharpDice all over MP, but instead I've done next to 0 promotion for it and have even forfeited the display of it when it had won the fair lottery right for the middle spot.

It also wouldn't have made sense for me to include more apps in the featured section if this was the case since SharpDice was only one of 6 apps that were featured and actually working.

I (along with the other Moneypot partners) always try to make the best decision that betters Moneypot as a whole over any type of personal benefit or gain and I hope that onlookers can see that.

Erza

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I know what happened to moneypot but it said that my ip has been banned for no reason. This thing never happened to me before so please clarify this thing. And I already make some deposit on your site too

b0art

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Quote from: b0art on June 10, 2016, 05:22:48 PM

if i lend 10 btc for 1 year for moneypot how much can i get back

AS YOU ALL CAN SEE I WAS IN THIS THREAD BEFORE I EVEN NEW THE OTHER THREAD OR PROJECT. AND AFTER I ASKED THIS QUESTION AND GOT THE RESPONSE I PUT MONEY IN MP. I WANTED TO TAKE SOME OUT FOR THE OTHER PROJECT, YES THIS IS TRUE, BUT I AM ENTITLED TO DO THAT AND TO MY SURPRISE WHEN I TRIED TO GET MY BTC MP WAS DOWN. IM NOT HERE TRYING TO FUD OR CROSS PROMOTE. JUTS TRYING TO GET MY BTC FROM MP.

erwin45hacked

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Quote from: b0art on June 21, 2016, 11:31:48 AM

I am not attacking this thread or MP. I am just upset that it took me a full day to try and get my btc out of MP.

Yes you did, the moment you are bringing another site on this thread, it means you are attacking them indirectly. If you are a legit player that want to withdraw from the site then you wont be bringing another site here and clearly your attention is to discredit MP and tries to make people aware of that other sites you mention here

b0art

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Quote from: shulio on June 21, 2016, 02:12:53 AM

Quote from: hua_hui on June 21, 2016, 12:24:27 AM

Guys can both of you chill out a bit and forget about it. To me, moneypot and LIR have both it cons and pros. There is no need to slam one another. I believe the success of both projects and i am involved in both project too.

No one is slamming each other here. From what i have seen it seems Acoin is just stating some realistic calculation for the project which the potential investor should know , this will avoid them to invest in it blindly however b0art seems to take it as an attack and try to attack back on this thread

I am not attacking this thread or MP. I am just upset that it took me a full day to try and get my btc out of MP.
Anyone who tries for a day to get on a website but keeps getting declined due to a ddos attack has the right to be upset.
Wouldn't you be upset?

AcoinL.L.C

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Quote from: Avirunes on June 21, 2016, 08:19:39 AM

Is moneypot down? I am facing an 522 cloudfare error.Shows me host is down.Can anyone please verify me that is it me only or it is really that moneypot is down?

The site is currently up, however it goes down sporadically due to the DDoS attack thats currently hitting us.

Dogedigital

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Quote from: JackpotRacer on June 06, 2016, 03:12:32 AM

Quote from: shulio on June 06, 2016, 01:53:33 AM

Quote from: Dogedigital on June 05, 2016, 10:03:34 PM

Quote from: Pseudo-Random on June 05, 2016, 09:03:31 PM

**snip**

Thanks for taking the time to scout the site allowing for improvement and changes. We appreciate it and will fix it up shortly.

Rest assured, work is constantly being done on Moneypot.

Everyday is exciting and we have a few surprises for everybody lined up in the near future that I think will be to everyone's delight.

.................................................................https://www.moneypot.com/me/account. It shows up dust dice there, might have been ryan's leftover and IMO it is not really fair for the other casino, it should be a link to the all apps tab where player can see all the approved apps

>>>it is not really fair for the other casino<<<

nice catch but an old story and thank you for bringing it up! it is not fair and how many times I said this and got (witch)hunted

Dust Dice was put there because it was Ryan's app and he gave himself a preferred treatment and also to other apps(owners)

there is always a way to treat all fair and equal ( but only if someone wants to do it )

how about the 3 apps advertised here http://imgur.com/wLVwDoQ

the middle one is now rotating each 2 days and the other 2 left and right are glued. why are they glued? if the middle one can be rotated imo the other 2 can also be rotated. is this fair? imo No!

They were all 'glued' before. We stated multiple times that we weren't going to change any of them until the new graphics were in place, but since we were unhappy with how RayBrady handed over DustDice, we decided to open up the spot (which is the prime spot) for other apps to get exposure. The front spot has been random and provably fair for featured apps.

'Fair' would have been just to keep it that way (all glued) but I doubt that this is what you wanted.

AcoinL.L.C

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Quote from: shulio on June 21, 2016, 02:12:53 AM

Quote from: hua_hui on June 21, 2016, 12:24:27 AM

Guys can both of you chill out a bit and forget about it. To me, moneypot and LIR have both it cons and pros. There is no need to slam one another. I believe the success of both projects and i am involved in both project too.

No one is slamming each other here. From what i have seen it seems Acoin is just stating some realistic calculation for the project which the potential investor should know , this will avoid them to invest in it blindly however b0art seems to take it as an attack and try to attack back on this thread

I am fine with genuine concern/criticism. I'm just done with the blatant trolling/FUD that is not supported by anything. And yes, he probably came here because I showed the math on LIR's ANN thread on why even if Let It Ride is a success it would still underperform compared to investing in quite literally any other gambling site. And thats assuming its successful.

As Uni mentioned, we are under massive DDoS attack currently. We apologize for any delays this causes. If anyone is trying to make a large withdrawal, please message one of us.

Avirunes

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Is moneypot down? I am facing an 522 cloudfare error.Shows me host is down.Can anyone please verify me that is it me only or it is really that moneypot is down?

shulio

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Quote from: hua_hui on June 21, 2016, 12:24:27 AM

Guys can both of you chill out a bit and forget about it. To me, moneypot and LIR have both it cons and pros. There is no need to slam one another. I believe the success of both projects and i am involved in both project too.

No one is slamming each other here. From what i have seen it seems Acoin is just stating some realistic calculation for the project which the potential investor should know , this will avoid them to invest in it blindly however b0art seems to take it as an attack and try to attack back on this thread

Quickseller

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Quote from: AcoinL.L.C on June 20, 2016, 04:43:33 PM

Quote from: b0art on June 20, 2016, 04:12:47 PM

I have to say. I was really upset the other day when I tried 4 times to take money out of mp and I could not because the site was down. This is unacceptable. I have since taken most of my btc out and am investing in the let it ride dice project instead.
After years of business for you to go down for dozens of hours is just unacceptable. If this problem ever happens again I'll be forced to withdrawal the rest of my btc and cease to do business with mp going forward.

Nice try troll. You're just upset I called your project out the other day. MoneyPot has not been down for dozens of hours, infact it hasn't been down in a couple days (when it went down for a couple hours because of a DDoS attack). We also haven't been in business for years... Try 6 months.

Lol. It looks like someone thinks that MP investors are suckers and are trying to lure them away to what is clearly a sucker's investment (aka let it ride). Both the "blockchain specialist" and the "marketing director" of Let It Ride are clearly purchased accounts, the later likely being purchased less then a week prior to the Let It Ride thread being opened. In fact, I would not be entirely surprised if Let It Ride was actually a one man operation. I am actually very surprised that so much money has been entrusted with the ~~people~~ person behind "Let It Ride", although based on the number of sockpuppets that are clearly behind it, I would say that a decent amount of money is either recycled and/or belongs to the person behind Let It Ride.

Anyway, back on topic, I don't believe that MP has ever been down for substantial amounts of time, and that the majority of MP's downtime has been out of their control (eg DDoS attacks that happen to pretty much every Bitcoin related site).

MillionsBTCdev

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Quote from: RHavar on June 20, 2016, 09:16:12 PM

Quote from: AcoinL.L.C on June 20, 2016, 09:11:24 PM

That is why (as stated in the part you quoted) we will be fixing it shortly, either through the launch of v2.0 (which is coming soon) or a patch for it if v2.0 runs into any issues during final testing.

Understood. I just meant that it seems like a sufficiently serious bug that it's worth patching immediately even at the expense of performance. For all intents and purposes while the bug exists, the casino isn't provably fair. As no one can distinguish "invalid hash" from a legitimate db issue to you not wanting to honor the bet (.e.g. a winning bet at the end of a martingale sequence). From the sound of the description of the bug it just sounds like the code is (psuedo code):

Code:

var hash = getNewHash();
db.queryPromise('INSERT INTO hashes VALUES($1)', [hash]);
this.body = hash;

and needs only needs a 1 line change to:

Code:

var hash = getNewHash();
yield db.queryPromise('INSERT INTO hashes VALUES($1)', [hash]);
this.body = hash;

(or something?) Or perhaps more likely, I completely misunderstood the problem and I apologize Grin

Hi there,
Sorry i was only able to check the forum just now, was so busy lately with bunch of DDoS attacks.
Anyway, thanks for your input, but ive made sure that the generation of new hash(next_hash)are yielded properly.

**ive omitted/changed some of the codes below for privacy concerns**

Code:

function* query (sql, params) {
  const [client, done] = yield pg.connectPromise(dburl);
  try {
   return yield client.queryPromise(sql, params);
  } finally {
   done();
  }
}
function* inserthash(){
var hash = make_hash();
var r = yield query('INSERT INTO hashes (newhash) VALUES($1)', [hash]);
if (r.rowCount === 0) // 1st check
   throw new Error('Could not insert into bet hashes');
  assert(r.rows.length === 1); // 2nd check
  var new_hash = r.rows[0].newhash; //3rd check
  assert(typeof new_hash === 'string'); //4th check
return new_hash;
}

I've doubled checked,tripled check, the generation of hash and the deletion of used hash,and they are yielded properly.. Ive also setup a cron job to just manually vacuum/analyze the db in case it hits a certain threshold of dead rows which tends to be fast.. As you may have read on previous pages(not sure if i told it here), limits have been removed for all and any kinds of bets/wagers, this was also voted by the mp owners, its why the volume of incoming bets is huge specially on peak hours.

I also cannot just generate a new hash if the bet encounters a invalid hash error as that would defeat the very sense of provably fair. So there two immediate solutions i can think of:
1. Would need the participation of the app owners/dev, that is on every response of a bet, get the next_hash value, and call GET /v1/hashes to check if the hash is valid or not. https://www.moneypot.com/api-docs#v1-auth-check-if-hash-has-been-used and if the hash is invalid, generate a new hash, if valid, continue with the bet. I know this is an extra call that some may think the bet will be slow, but this is the only 100% sure way that you won't get invalid_hash.
2. Is more simpler, raise the min wager a bit, bring back the delays on small wagered bets.

Thanks,
-uni

FYI for all: MP has and is under DDoS attack thru out the day/night, So you might see Cloudflare challenge/captcha sometimes when visiting the site. Withdrawals are still instant as always, but we do advise to contact us in case you are trying to withdraw big amounts such as 10+ or 20+ btc

hua_hui

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Quote from: AcoinL.L.C on June 20, 2016, 04:59:27 PM

Quote from: b0art on June 20, 2016, 04:53:31 PM

Quote from: AcoinL.L.C on June 20, 2016, 04:48:22 PM

Quote from: b0art on June 20, 2016, 04:45:35 PM

Quote from: AcoinL.L.C on June 20, 2016, 04:43:33 PM

Quote from: b0art on June 20, 2016, 04:12:47 PM

I have to say. I was really upset the other day when I tried 4 times to take money out of mp and I could not because the site was down. This is unacceptable. I have since taken most of my btc out and am investing in the let it ride dice project instead.
After years of business for you to go down for dozens of hours is just unacceptable. If this problem ever happens again I'll be forced to withdrawal the rest of my btc and cease to do business with mp going forward.

Nice try troll. Your just upset I called your project out the other day. MoneyPot has not been down for dozens of hours, infact it hasn't been down in a couple days (when it went down for a couple hours because of a DDoS attack). We also haven't been in business for years... Try 6 months.

How am I a troll? Im just voicing my opinion and you are attacking me. What kind of community is this?
and infact it was down for over 12 hours because i tried 4 times during the day and it was down each time.

Bud, give it up. The site was not down for 12 hours, that is fact, I was on the site all yesterday. Looking at your post history, you are either part of the Let It Ride team or seriously invested. Its not my fault you invested in a shitty project and I called that project out. When I called it out, I did with the stats provided by the Let It Ride team.

If you want to lie and FUD, I will mark you with negative.

It is not lies or fud. The site was down for over 12 hours. It went up I assume at some point but all day when I tried it was down. Others have said the same thing in this thread just a few posts up. I am very invested in LIR, it's true, but I was also invested here. And as an investor I have a right to leave my feedback on a coin or project or item. Now please calm down a bit with your heavy handed abuse of power threats because the road goes both ways. Wink

Just remember that my friend.

Its not an abuse of power, you are slandering without any base. Look at the time stamps of the posts you are referring to above, notice how complaints of the site being down are 3+ days old, and once again, the site was down at that point in time due to a series of DDoS attacks. The site was not down yesterday, and our site hasn't been down for 12+ hours since the last heavy maintenance we conducted... which was quite some time ago.

You have the right to leave feedback for sure, however only if it is a genuine complaint, we want to provide our users with the best experience possible. Blatant trolling/lies will not be tolerated in the slightest.

Guys can both of you chill out a bit and forget about it. To me, moneypot and LIR have both it cons and pros. There is no need to slam one another. I believe the success of both projects and i am involved in both project too.

EXmoneypotER

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hello.
i need to take my last btc from moneypot but i get error 521
this will be fixed soon? btc is falling and i need to sell it.
thank you.

Deuceisgood

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Quote from: b0art on June 20, 2016, 05:24:13 PM

Of course you'll ignore me. Because you're a little bitch and you know im right. Im not upset though because for the rest of history people will know you are an abuser of your power, who clearly cant read (as pointed out in this thread) and runs away when he is proven wrong and places people on ignore. Enjoy your red trust from me.

Dude, people are laughing AT you, not WITH you. (There is a difference, think about it.)

*And please remove unnecessary quotes when you post. Nobody but nobody likes to wade through the clutter to get at your latest comments. Note I quote you here, but NOT all of the prior comments that preceded yours. If someone needs those prior comments, they can scroll up in the thread.

While I have your attention, do you play poker? I'd love to sit at your table ... let me know. :-)

Dogedigital

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Quote from: Pseudo-Random on June 05, 2016, 09:03:31 PM

**snip**

Thanks for taking the time to scout the site allowing for improvement and changes. We appreciate it and will fix it up shortly.

Rest assured, work is constantly being done on Moneypot.

Everyday is exciting and we have a few surprises for everybody lined up in the near future that I think will be to everyone's delight.

RHavar

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Quote from: AcoinL.L.C on June 20, 2016, 09:11:24 PM

That is why (as stated in the part you quoted) we will be fixing it shortly, either through the launch of v2.0 (which is coming soon) or a patch for it if v2.0 runs into any issues during final testing.

Understood. I just meant that it seems like a sufficiently serious bug that it's worth patching immediately even at the expense of performance. For all intents and purposes while the bug exists, the casino isn't provably fair. As no one can distinguish "invalid hash" from a legitimate db issue to you not wanting to honor the bet (.e.g. a winning bet at the end of a martingale sequence). From the sound of the description of the bug it just sounds like the code is (psuedo code):

Code:

  var hash = getNewHash();
  db.queryPromise('INSERT INTO hashes VALUES($1)', [hash]);
  this.body = hash;

and needs only needs a 1 line change to:

Code:

  var hash = getNewHash();
  yield db.queryPromise('INSERT INTO hashes VALUES($1)', [hash]);
  this.body = hash;

(or something?) Or perhaps more likely, I completely misunderstood the problem and I apologize Grin

AcoinL.L.C

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Quote from: RHavar on June 20, 2016, 08:15:51 PM

Quote from: MillionsBTCdev on June 17, 2016, 04:53:08 PM

But due to high traffic volume of bets, the database tends slow down even after the dead row limit is met, making the generation and saving of the next hash is slower than the speed of your next bet. So in short the second bet was sent before the next_hash has been properly saved to the database thus giving you the INVALID_HASH error as it cannot find the hash.

V2 should resolve this issue, but since then, ill try to find time (very busy with v2) to look into finding a fix for this for the mean time.

That actually seems like a serious problem, as it would affect the provably fair. Every time a user gets "INVALID_HASH" that's pretty much the same as the bet not validating. It might slow it down slightly sending the hash *after* the database transaction has been `COMMIT`ed but correctness is far more important than speed. (And if speed is important, you could use a pre-generated pool of hashes I guess)

That is why (as stated in the part you quoted) we will be fixing it shortly, either through the launch of v2.0 (which is coming soon) or a patch for it if v2.0 runs into any issues during final testing.

RHavar

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Quote from: MillionsBTCdev on June 17, 2016, 04:53:08 PM

But due to high traffic volume of bets, the database tends slow down even after the dead row limit is met, making the generation and saving of the next hash is slower than the speed of your next bet. So in short the second bet was sent before the next_hash has been properly saved to the database thus giving you the INVALID_HASH error as it cannot find the hash.

V2 should resolve this issue, but since then, ill try to find time (very busy with v2) to look into finding a fix for this for the mean time.

That actually seems like a serious problem, as it would affect the provably fair. Every time a user gets "INVALID_HASH" that's pretty much the same as the bet not validating. It might slow it down slightly sending the hash *after* the database transaction has been `COMMIT`ed but correctness is far more important than speed. (And if speed is important, you could use a pre-generated pool of hashes I guess)

cazkooo

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Quote from: b0art on June 20, 2016, 05:24:13 PM

Of course you'll ignore me. Because you're a little bitch and you know im right. Im not upset though because for the rest of history people will know you are an abuser of your power, who clearly cant read (as pointed out in this thread) and runs away when he is proven wrong and places people on ignore. Enjoy your red trust from me.

You have been called out of your bluff and admit it, you are spreading FUD here nothing else . Exactly around 6 hours ago before this dump that happens all over the exchange, I withdrawed 0.5+ from the site and everything went instantly as usual so your accusation of you cant withdraw from the site is totally a FUD especially bringing that stupid LIR project

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