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legendary
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June 22, 2016, 12:33:48 PM

You are one dumb fuck retard.
Its 100% their fault. It does affect everyone involved and for you to say "MoneyPot is under no obligation to provide timely service to anyone" is over the top wrong.
They are the bitches and us investors are the owners. Remember that.

I'm done with you.

Congratulations, you have hit the bottom of the decency barrel. Any respect for you as a human that I had previously retained in my interactions with you has now been quashed and replaced with a heavy sense of schadenfreude. I do not pity you, because pity would bring me down. No, I point and laugh at your incompetence.

If you have money in MoneyPot that you're having trouble getting out, the owners have already offered to process a withdrawal manually for you. You haven't done that, and therefore you have no plank upon which to place the soapbox you wish to stand upon. One cannot feel pity for the man who is only slapping himself. Problems can be solved. Complaints cannot. You're complaining. Cheese off.

Unrelated: Let It Ride is a well-known card game available in most popular casinos. It also has a terrible house edge (3.51%).
sr. member
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June 22, 2016, 12:28:35 PM
A small glitch? Getting annihilated by a DDos attack is not a small glitch. Its a fatal flaw.
I'm not going to join in on this useless arguments,trash talks,fud or w.e people call it. So this is just an FYI for everyone.

The reason why moneypot has been goin down was from a sophisticated DDoS attack, and this is NOT a 'fatal flaw' of moneypot or any other site, this is a flaw of the internet and how the internet works. There is literally no 100% way to stop a sophisticated DDoS attack. Even this forum had a share of its DDoS attack issues in the past. Even largest sites such as Google or Facebook gets DDosed from time to time.

If anyone has a way to fully stop 100% a DDoS attack, he'd be rich.

-uni


UPDATE: Looks like the attack has subsided. Both https://www.moneypot.com/ and https://blog.moneypot.com/ are loading fine. But please be informed that the attack may come back any time.
full member
Activity: 163
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June 22, 2016, 12:24:42 PM
They are the bitches and us investors are the owners. Remember that.

I'm done with you.

You are free to take your money elsewhere and stop being hostile here. No one is stopping you from taking your money away so please do that and leave in peace, this thread has been messy with the DDOS attack information and you being hostile here is not really helping the situation to be better

Maybe if the owner of the site tried less to discredit me and more to fix the problems his site is having I'd be a little calmer.

legendary
Activity: 1064
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June 22, 2016, 12:23:04 PM
They are the bitches and us investors are the owners. Remember that.

I'm done with you.

You are free to take your money elsewhere and stop being hostile here. No one is stopping you from taking your money away so please do that and leave in peace, this thread has been messy with the DDOS attack information and you being hostile here is not really helping the situation to be better
full member
Activity: 163
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June 22, 2016, 12:21:50 PM
You keep slandering other projects, and think that you come out looking good?
GET YOUR FUCKING SITE WORKING WITHOUT INTERUPTION FOR 24 HOURS FIRST.
Then you can worry about other projects.

Sounds normal to me!

I don't know any owners who when in a crisis spend all their time talking about other projects and proclaiming that they have everything under control.

FIX YOUR SHIT!
legendary
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June 17, 2016, 03:28:50 PM
We're very sorry Yahoo.

We're trying to make the transition to our new servers as smooth as possible.

We've been getting DDOS attempts and successes as they seem to keep coming from different entry points and they seem to do it while the majority of us are asleep.

I've sent you a PM on Skype.
legendary
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June 22, 2016, 12:20:21 PM
I disagree in that it is within our right to take his money, however if he is this unhappy we would gladly close his account (I'm pretty sure he doesn't actually have an account with us). Please send me proof of ownership of an account and we can withdrawal any balance you have remaining on the site.

All I can suggest is that people hit the "ignore" button under this guys name, he has been trolling my posts throughout the forum. His account is nothing more than a sockpuppet for Let It Ride (which is almost certainly a scam), even in best case scenario Let It Ride is a terrible investment for people, no one on this forum seems to understand opportunity cost.

I didn't say it's within your right, I said it's within your capability. I don't think the MoneyPot team even considers it an option.
legendary
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June 22, 2016, 12:18:30 PM
Good luck with that investment. I'm sure you'll regret it soon.

There's no need to be a snarky asshole about it. We get it, you had a bad experience withdrawing. Move on, the rest of us have been using MoneyPot for years and are not put off by such a small glitch.

A small glitch? Getting annihilated by a DDos attack is not a small glitch. Its a fatal flaw.

Actually, getting hit with a DDoS isn't a glitch at all, it's a malicious attack that the host cannot control or prevent. Blaming MoneyPot for a DDoS attack against them is like blaming your local grocery store for the graffiti that appeared on their back wall. It's not their fault, doesn't actually interfere with their business much, and really isn't their responsibility to fix anyway.

You have never operated a web host or web service. I can tell, because you are upset at someone for something they have no control over. Several people tried to be kind and gently explain that this type of attack is not something that you simply "pay to fix". Even the worlds' finest backbones and strongest protections cannot totally prevent the effects of a DDoS from spilling over into the user experience. It is simply unreasonable to expect any business to have 100% uptime or to have downtimes shorter than an arbitrary length. Nobody in the world, not Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, or Donald Trump, is capable of preventing a DDoS, and all of them are only able to mitigate one as well as the premier services in the industry do it - namely, the one MoneyPot is already paying for.

I will not be kind. Your attitude stinks and you need a verbal smackdown. By demanding that MoneyPot do more than they have concerning the DDoS, you are being an unreasonable customer that any sane business would refuse service to. MoneyPot is under no obligation to provide timely service to anyone and the fact that you've gotten what you have so far is a privilege, not a right, and MoneyPot is very well within their capability to take your money and close your account. They didn't do that, so shut the fuck up and piss off.

You do know that moneypot has been under new ownership for the last 6 months. RIGHT?

Yes, and I also know that MoneyPot suffered a severe DDoS attack when it was still under Ryan's ownership that caused the system to be offline for an extended period of time. That wasn't his fault then any more than it is DD's fault today. If you don't like using services that could potentially be brought down by DDoS attacks, then don't use the Internet.

I disagree in that it is within our right to take his money, however if he is this unhappy we would gladly close his account (I'm pretty sure he doesn't actually have an account with us). Please send me proof of ownership of an account and we can withdrawal any balance you have remaining on the site.

All I can suggest is that people hit the "ignore" button under this guys name, he has been trolling my posts throughout the forum. His account is nothing more than a sockpuppet for Let It Ride (which is almost certainly a scam), even in best case scenario Let It Ride is a terrible investment for people, no one on this forum seems to understand opportunity cost.
full member
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June 22, 2016, 12:16:09 PM
Good luck with that investment. I'm sure you'll regret it soon.

There's no need to be a snarky asshole about it. We get it, you had a bad experience withdrawing. Move on, the rest of us have been using MoneyPot for years and are not put off by such a small glitch.

A small glitch? Getting annihilated by a DDos attack is not a small glitch. Its a fatal flaw.

Actually, getting hit with a DDoS isn't a glitch at all, it's a malicious attack that the host cannot control or prevent. Blaming MoneyPot for a DDoS attack against them is like blaming your local grocery store for the graffiti that appeared on their back wall. It's not their fault, doesn't actually interfere with their business much, and really isn't their responsibility to fix anyway.

You have never operated a web host or web service. I can tell, because you are upset at someone for something they have no control over. Several people tried to be kind and gently explain that this type of attack is not something that you simply "pay to fix". Even the worlds' finest backbones and strongest protections cannot totally prevent the effects of a DDoS from spilling over into the user experience. It is simply unreasonable to expect any business to have 100% uptime or to have downtimes shorter than an arbitrary length. Nobody in the world, not Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, or Donald Trump, is capable of preventing a DDoS, and all of them are only able to mitigate one as well as the premier services in the industry do it - namely, the one MoneyPot is already paying for.

I will not be kind. Your attitude stinks and you need a verbal smackdown. By demanding that MoneyPot do more than they have concerning the DDoS, you are being an unreasonable customer that any sane business would refuse service to. MoneyPot is under no obligation to provide timely service to anyone and the fact that you've gotten what you have so far is a privilege, not a right, and MoneyPot is very well within their capability to take your money and close your account. They didn't do that, so shut the fuck up and piss off.

You do know that moneypot has been under new ownership for the last 6 months. RIGHT?

Yes, and I also know that MoneyPot suffered a severe DDoS attack when it was still under Ryan's ownership that caused the system to be offline for an extended period of time. That wasn't his fault then any more than it is DD's fault today. If you don't like using services that could potentially be brought down by DDoS attacks, then don't use the Internet.

You are one dumb fuck retard.
Its 100% their fault. It does affect everyone involved and for you to say "MoneyPot is under no obligation to provide timely service to anyone" is over the top wrong.
They are the bitches and us investors are the owners. Remember that.

I'm done with you.
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1001
Out of crypto entirely and don't miss it
June 22, 2016, 12:13:04 PM
Good luck with that investment. I'm sure you'll regret it soon.

There's no need to be a snarky asshole about it. We get it, you had a bad experience withdrawing. Move on, the rest of us have been using MoneyPot for years and are not put off by such a small glitch.

A small glitch? Getting annihilated by a DDos attack is not a small glitch. Its a fatal flaw.

Actually, getting hit with a DDoS isn't a glitch at all, it's a malicious attack that the host cannot control or prevent. Blaming MoneyPot for a DDoS attack against them is like blaming your local grocery store for the graffiti that appeared on their back wall. It's not their fault, doesn't actually interfere with their business much, and really isn't their responsibility to fix anyway.

You have never operated a web host or web service. I can tell, because you are upset at someone for something they have no control over. Several people tried to be kind and gently explain that this type of attack is not something that you simply "pay to fix". Even the worlds' finest backbones and strongest protections cannot totally prevent the effects of a DDoS from spilling over into the user experience. It is simply unreasonable to expect any business to have 100% uptime or to have downtimes shorter than an arbitrary length. Nobody in the world, not Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, or Donald Trump, is capable of preventing a DDoS, and all of them are only able to mitigate one as well as the premier services in the industry do it - namely, the one MoneyPot is already paying for.

I will not be kind. Your attitude stinks and you need a verbal smackdown. By demanding that MoneyPot do more than they have concerning the DDoS, you are being an unreasonable customer that any sane business would refuse service to. MoneyPot is under no obligation to provide timely service to anyone and the fact that you've gotten what you have so far is a privilege, not a right, and MoneyPot is very well within their capability to take your money and close your account. They didn't do that, so shut the fuck up and piss off.

You do know that moneypot has been under new ownership for the last 6 months. RIGHT?

Yes, and I also know that MoneyPot suffered a severe DDoS attack when it was still under Ryan's ownership that caused the system to be offline for an extended period of time. That wasn't his fault then any more than it is DD's fault today. If you don't like using services that could potentially be brought down by DDoS attacks, then don't use the Internet.
full member
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June 22, 2016, 12:07:41 PM
Good luck with that investment. I'm sure you'll regret it soon.

There's no need to be a snarky asshole about it. We get it, you had a bad experience withdrawing. Move on, the rest of us have been using MoneyPot for years and are not put off by such a small glitch.

A small glitch? Getting annihilated by a DDos attack is not a small glitch. Its a fatal flaw.



My investiment answer to your post was ment to be a kind of joke to your excessively repeated ( in my opinion) complaints. My opinion is similar to stingleword one in the sense that we clearly got you think your Moneypot experience is  negative.
Ok. THE MESSAGE IS CLEAR.

But annihilated is not a word that reflects actual situation, try to be more objective : in these days ( not without some delays) am using moneypot apps invested divested deposited and withdrew.
Did I experience delays when doing so? YES.
 
But first of all appreciate the costant communication and update held  here : most important fact for me.
Second also appreciate the efforts they are putting to bring this attack to an end: they also open to suggestions and are spending (if you can read properly) something like $2000/monthly to keep MP safe.

Will keep on using MP: rarely I'm in the urge of having my BTC ready to spend (to be honest it only happened once in last 2 years and half) so I'm well-disposed to bear some delay.



Good luck with that investment.

oh btw
Thank you for this.  Cheesy

Good for you. YES I am mad and I have a right to be. And anyone else who is experiencing problems has the same right to be mad. The longer MP cant stay up without going down is a death sentence for them, you and your investment.
full member
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June 22, 2016, 12:06:22 PM
Good luck with that investment. I'm sure you'll regret it soon.

There's no need to be a snarky asshole about it. We get it, you had a bad experience withdrawing. Move on, the rest of us have been using MoneyPot for years and are not put off by such a small glitch.

You do know that moneypot has been under new ownership for the last 6 months. RIGHT?
legendary
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June 22, 2016, 12:03:36 PM
Good luck with that investment. I'm sure you'll regret it soon.

There's no need to be a snarky asshole about it. We get it, you had a bad experience withdrawing. Move on, the rest of us have been using MoneyPot for years and are not put off by such a small glitch.

A small glitch? Getting annihilated by a DDos attack is not a small glitch. Its a fatal flaw.



My investiment answer to your post was ment to be a kind of joke to your excessively repeated ( in my opinion) complaints. My opinion is similar to stingleword one in the sense that we clearly got you think your Moneypot experience is  negative.
Ok. THE MESSAGE IS CLEAR.

But annihilated is not a word that reflects actual situation, try to be more objective : in these days ( not without some delays) am using moneypot apps invested divested deposited and withdrew.
Did I experience delays when doing so? YES.
 
But first of all appreciate the costant communication and update held  here : most important fact for me.
Second also appreciate the efforts they are putting to bring this attack to an end: they also open to suggestions and are spending (if you can read properly) something like $2000/monthly to keep MP safe.

Will keep on using MP: rarely I'm in the urge of having my BTC ready to spend (to be honest it only happened once in last 2 years and half) so I'm well-disposed to bear some delay.



Good luck with that investment.

oh btw
Thank you for this.  Cheesy
full member
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June 22, 2016, 11:36:50 AM
Good luck with that investment. I'm sure you'll regret it soon.

There's no need to be a snarky asshole about it. We get it, you had a bad experience withdrawing. Move on, the rest of us have been using MoneyPot for years and are not put off by such a small glitch.

A small glitch? Getting annihilated by a DDos attack is not a small glitch. Its a fatal flaw.
legendary
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Out of crypto entirely and don't miss it
June 22, 2016, 11:33:28 AM
Good luck with that investment. I'm sure you'll regret it soon.

There's no need to be a snarky asshole about it. We get it, you had a bad experience withdrawing. Move on, the rest of us have been using MoneyPot for years and are not put off by such a small glitch.
full member
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June 22, 2016, 11:04:43 AM
They have so many btc
Yes, they do hold over 1000 BTC in their bankroll, which is crowdfunded. You can't expect them to use those funds, can you? That would be worse, since no investor agreed for their invested amount to be spent toward DDoS protection.
and talk about how profits are at an all time high but they cant afford simple DDos protection.
Give me a break. Next they will return and say the ddoser took at the btc and they are broke.
FUCK MONEYPOT THEY SUCK.
Yes, their profits are at an all time high. Most of that is just an advertisement though, since Moneypot's bankroll is primarily investor funded (you should know this, considering you said you invested. Maybe just an lie to shill a competitor). Moneypot claims to have a share in the bankroll, but we don't know how much, and that is their personal BTC in the bankroll, not as a company. Their profits from commissions are always at an all time high, and they probably already spend that on Cloudflare protections.

I know it's mostly user funds but they must be making money and should have some set aside for unforeseen problems like this one. Here we are, days later and the site is still having difficulties. Maybe its time to stop having representatives post all over the forum attacking everyone and maybe he should get a job to be able to pay for proper DDos protection.



Just few minutes before I read this, I logged into moneypot, deposited and invested  Cool

Good luck with that investment. I'm sure you'll regret it soon.
legendary
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June 22, 2016, 11:02:33 AM
They have so many btc
Yes, they do hold over 1000 BTC in their bankroll, which is crowdfunded. You can't expect them to use those funds, can you? That would be worse, since no investor agreed for their invested amount to be spent toward DDoS protection.
and talk about how profits are at an all time high but they cant afford simple DDos protection.
Give me a break. Next they will return and say the ddoser took at the btc and they are broke.
FUCK MONEYPOT THEY SUCK.
Yes, their profits are at an all time high. Most of that is just an advertisement though, since Moneypot's bankroll is primarily investor funded (you should know this, considering you said you invested. Maybe just an lie to shill a competitor). Moneypot claims to have a share in the bankroll, but we don't know how much, and that is their personal BTC in the bankroll, not as a company. Their profits from commissions are always at an all time high, and they probably already spend that on Cloudflare protections.

I know it's mostly user funds but they must be making money and should have some set aside for unforeseen problems like this one. Here we are, days later and the site is still having difficulties. Maybe its time to stop having representatives post all over the forum attacking everyone and maybe he should get a job to be able to pay for proper DDos protection.



Just few minutes before I read this, I logged into moneypot, deposited and invested  Cool
full member
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June 22, 2016, 10:53:55 AM
They have so many btc
Yes, they do hold over 1000 BTC in their bankroll, which is crowdfunded. You can't expect them to use those funds, can you? That would be worse, since no investor agreed for their invested amount to be spent toward DDoS protection.
and talk about how profits are at an all time high but they cant afford simple DDos protection.
Give me a break. Next they will return and say the ddoser took at the btc and they are broke.
FUCK MONEYPOT THEY SUCK.
Yes, their profits are at an all time high. Most of that is just an advertisement though, since Moneypot's bankroll is primarily investor funded (you should know this, considering you said you invested. Maybe just an lie to shill a competitor). Moneypot claims to have a share in the bankroll, but we don't know how much, and that is their personal BTC in the bankroll, not as a company. Their profits from commissions are always at an all time high, and they probably already spend that on Cloudflare protections.

I know it's mostly user funds but they must be making money and should have some set aside for unforeseen problems like this one. Here we are, days later and the site is still having difficulties. Maybe its time to stop having representatives post all over the forum attacking everyone and maybe he should get a job to be able to pay for proper DDos protection.
legendary
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June 22, 2016, 10:07:57 AM
Well thank god the backup server is up i was able to get my coins out in time, quick thinking there!

it sucks the main site is down though it kinda looks bad to the public can I ask what you guys are doing to upgrade your protection?

sounds like cloudflare is not going to cut it for you in the future, I only used moneypot for the fun and not as an investment but I would be quite concerned were it the other way around, but then again I've seen you here walking the community through everything not every dev is so open about whats going on so major props on that man!

don't let them get you down....figuratively anyway! Moneypot is a bad ass idea no matter what they do to your servers. I'm not some awesome server expert guy so i don't know what the deal is buy it sounds like you need to throw some of that bankroll at firewalls LOL

There is no cause for concern for investors, we are still processing bets and the bankroll is still increasing its profits. Of course, volume is much lower than typical due to the frequent outage, and most importantly no funds are at risk. The vast majority of the bankroll is consisted of just a few investors whom we are in frequent talks with, the bankroll isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

Thank you for the kind words, its a bit frustrating for the site to be going up/down, but it is what it is. As far as spending on firewalls, we are currently spending a couple hundred bucks a month with CloudFlare, and we are considering more expensive options elsewhere.
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June 22, 2016, 09:51:25 AM
Well thank god the backup server is up i was able to get my coins out in time, quick thinking there!

it sucks the main site is down though it kinda looks bad to the public can I ask what you guys are doing to upgrade your protection?

sounds like cloudflare is not going to cut it for you in the future, I only used moneypot for the fun and not as an investment but I would be quite concerned were it the other way around, but then again I've seen you here walking the community through everything not every dev is so open about whats going on so major props on that man!

don't let them get you down....figuratively anyway! Moneypot is a bad ass idea no matter what they do to your servers. I'm not some awesome server expert guy so i don't know what the deal is buy it sounds like you need to throw some of that bankroll at firewalls LOL
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