This kind of thing not possible at all, those gambling tickets usually have its unique codes that will be used to differentiate the gamble ticket of one gambler from another. If for example I also played that same game that the victim played, the tickets will not have the same number and the time of staking the game may even be different from both of us because the man may stake his game before me which could be one hour earlier or some minutes earlier while I may stake my own game later. The casino attendant should make sure he provides every of that money or let the victim be strictly investigated on because he must have give someone the ticket to come and claim the money and later he will still come and reclaim the money again.
The reason why I believe that this kind of thing is not even possible is because, if for example I win a game in a betting shop and I come there with my ticket to claim my money, after they pay me the money, they will retrieve the ticket from me, so that no other person will return to the shop with that same ticket. Let the shop attendant provide all that money.
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So, in the nutshell, having such security measures in places in betting shops and casinos are very good for obvious reason, but not when the shop or casino is not generating enough to fund such project and also maintain it, for a big shop or casino that can afford it due to the size of their business, it's very alright and important to have such security outfit, as it's also to the advantage of the business in the long run.
I am not a business person but from the little I know about it is that there are some businesses for example this physical bet shop where your staff need to be micro managed. They will need to dot their "i's" and cross their "t's". That is the kind of management that is required of the business owner. Micromanaging involves installing a cctv camera in your shop bet shop and let your staff be aware of it but make to put in their best. This is what I think. 
. I see this as a warning on the dangers of greedy agents in physical gambling platforms.
Its sadden that land based sport betting sites agents will continue to give a bad reputation to land base gambling companies who without delay had always paid customers their won cash immediately their bet ticket is approved. However these pattern of scam is not peculiar to land based casinos or sport betting shops alone but similar to online gambling sites too.For me I think as long as traditional casinos can operate on daily basis and make bi players play on their edge, then they could still last. I believe the lesson in here is to really, only play with reliable casinos where they have verified payouts from their previous participants. In terms of online gambling, be aware of hidden rules and the activeness of customer service for any problem. And for traditional casinos, my biggest concern was always been my security. There's no point if I won a lot but I can't et out alive right?
However, we should carefully study and research about where we play, and the person who wants to bet on the games that will earn big cash out should carefully know where to do that to avoid issues like this. If the casino agents are not the big ones, they could be greedy, and it could be worse in the situation where you win more money which could buy their structure and the equipment many times over, they could disappear due to this. Also, it is good to gamble with casinos that have big and good names, by doing that, you will unlikely be swindled by the company itself if you are dealing with them directly.
Agree with you mates the every casino matters on the behavior of the operator not the casino itself cause when the operator or the owner is not good then the casino will become not good. But the operator/owner is good enough and have a good handling on business then the casino will run forever. But ok reality it will depends on us gamblers cause we have the decision if we gonna play on that casino or not so it's better to do our own research and use some of our time to discover the ability and all about the casino.
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The case that you mentioned is weird as hell op since simple CCTV footage would have solved the entire situation then and there itself. If they didn't have CCTVs, they are not reliable at all in my opinion.
Also, both physical and digital casinos have their own set of pros and cons which is why it all comes to individual preference at the end of the day.
Exactly, and it's weird that a casino doesn't have that as part of their security in there, you would think that they don't want other people to be messing with them so they want to make sure that they can see what everyone's doing right? That's a bit on the incompetent on their side. If travelling all over the world is a thing that every human has a right, card counters and gambling cheaters would be flocking in that casino because no one's going to make them prove that they're in fact cheating there.Also, both physical and digital casinos have their own set of pros and cons which is why it all comes to individual preference at the end of the day.
Before you guys talk and blame the casino for not installing cctv cameras as a security measure, I think it's fairer to first find out how big this casino in question is, or worst of all, it could be a betting shop that is managed by a betting agent, which means it's not actually a casino we are talking about, but just a mere betting shop.
Now I am not saying that betting shops don't deserve to have a cctv camera either, but just like the casino, it depends on how big the shop is, you may not want to be spending at supposed huge amount putting up a cctv camera in a shop that is only accessed by 10 to 15 people perday, or worst, smaller number.
So, in the nutshell, having such security measures in places in betting shops and casinos are very good for obvious reason, but not when the shop or casino is not generating enough to fund such project and also maintain it, for a big shop or casino that can afford it due to the size of their business, it's very alright and important to have such security outfit, as it's also to the advantage of the business in the long run.
. I see this as a warning on the dangers of greedy agents in physical gambling platforms.
Its sadden that land based sport betting sites agents will continue to give a bad reputation to land base gambling companies who without delay had always paid customers their won cash immediately their bet ticket is approved. However these pattern of scam is not peculiar to land based casinos or sport betting shops alone but similar to online gambling sites too.For me I think as long as traditional casinos can operate on daily basis and make bi players play on their edge, then they could still last. I believe the lesson in here is to really, only play with reliable casinos where they have verified payouts from their previous participants. In terms of online gambling, be aware of hidden rules and the activeness of customer service for any problem. And for traditional casinos, my biggest concern was always been my security. There's no point if I won a lot but I can't et out alive right?
However, we should carefully study and research about where we play, and the person who wants to bet on the games that will earn big cash out should carefully know where to do that to avoid issues like this. If the casino agents are not the big ones, they could be greedy, and it could be worse in the situation where you win more money which could buy their structure and the equipment many times over, they could disappear due to this. Also, it is good to gamble with casinos that have big and good names, by doing that, you will unlikely be swindled by the company itself if you are dealing with them directly.
The case that you mentioned is weird as hell op since simple CCTV footage would have solved the entire situation then and there itself. If they didn't have CCTVs, they are not reliable at all in my opinion.
Also, both physical and digital casinos have their own set of pros and cons which is why it all comes to individual preference at the end of the day.
Exactly, and it's weird that a casino doesn't have that as part of their security in there, you would think that they don't want other people to be messing with them so they want to make sure that they can see what everyone's doing right? That's a bit on the incompetent on their side. If travelling all over the world is a thing that every human has a right, card counters and gambling cheaters would be flocking in that casino because no one's going to make them prove that they're in fact cheating there.Also, both physical and digital casinos have their own set of pros and cons which is why it all comes to individual preference at the end of the day.
As much as we all like to praise online gambling, the convenience that it gave led us to more people getting introduced to gambling, people that you don't want to be gambling in the first place because you know that they're going to be addicted, at least in a physical casino, you have the limitations that not others can enter or access them easily but now, even those with as low as $10 can gamble away their money at the comfort of their own home.
Cannot something like that happen in an online casino as well? It can, and it has because we often see people complaining that a certain casino platform blocked their account, limited it, or refused to pay the winnings by making some excuse either about their regional restrictions, usage of a different IP address, non-verifiable KYC documents, and many other excuses that they can make to refuse to pay the winnings of a gambler.
Some platforms would even limit the accounts of certain sports bettors when they see they are winning a lot of money. The point is, that such things can happen anywhere and it isn't just about land-based or physical casinos but it depends on the operators of a casino. Gamblers need to make sure they are getting involved in casinos that are reputable.
Some platforms would even limit the accounts of certain sports bettors when they see they are winning a lot of money. The point is, that such things can happen anywhere and it isn't just about land-based or physical casinos but it depends on the operators of a casino. Gamblers need to make sure they are getting involved in casinos that are reputable.
People still get cheated from their own funds in online casinos.
The difference between both is you can be hurt physically in a physical casino unlike ones online.
wait what do you mean can be hurt in physically ? will someone hurt you in physical The difference between both is you can be hurt physically in a physical casino unlike ones online.
casino after being cheated? because not unless you start a fight there will no one hurting you mate.
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Like has been pointed out
It should be a betting agent and stealing #16M that's alot of courage especially when your information could be traced in the database.
cheater will keep cheating you mate , and that agent is truly a greedy and stupid person to It should be a betting agent and stealing #16M that's alot of courage especially when your information could be traced in the database.
take your winning and that will damage his reputation.
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One thing is to win Big
The Other is to hope you receive Big.
Betting risk doesn't just end in making bets but getting your funds
Some can be so shameless in creating a rule that you violated or using some kind of a limit.
that is scammer, like casino sites 1xbit that keeps scamming people from time to time. The Other is to hope you receive Big.
Betting risk doesn't just end in making bets but getting your funds
Some can be so shameless in creating a rule that you violated or using some kind of a limit.
. I see this as a warning on the dangers of greedy agents in physical gambling platforms.
Its sadden that land based sport betting sites agents will continue to give a bad reputation to land base gambling companies who without delay had always paid customers their won cash immediately their bet ticket is approved. However these pattern of scam is not peculiar to land based casinos or sport betting shops alone but similar to online gambling sites too.For me I think as long as traditional casinos can operate on daily basis and make bi players play on their edge, then they could still last. I believe the lesson in here is to really, only play with reliable casinos where they have verified payouts from their previous participants. In terms of online gambling, be aware of hidden rules and the activeness of customer service for any problem. And for traditional casinos, my biggest concern was always been my security. There's no point if I won a lot but I can't et out alive right?
I know one of the reasons some gamblers fail to use traditional casino's to use online is because of the fear of their security when they will large amount of money and it's then it goes public throughout the casino and it's environs. If you're one of such persons then you don't have to worry as you can always negotiate with the casino management to keep you anonymous without a third party knowing the identity of the winner.
I do not see why they have to apply a rule so selectively. The way that money laundering schemes use is not to put everything in the same virtual account, but rather spread it across many small transactions that fly under the taxman's radar. Activating such a measure just because the player is doing well is more of a way of scamming or looking for a excuse to not pay.
I have seen many ways that they do money laundering, even with simple games, there is a lot of fashion in something that is a bot that makes money, well several Bots , then if they do it at that level it is not enough to do anything else with them. casino that is a worthy way to legalize money and after passing KYC and everything they always ask for, well it is already clean money, honestly that is what is always sought in this case, making cleaner money, that way it is that we in casinos are Going to do Any type of thing with money, when they are large Sums of money.
. I see this as a warning on the dangers of greedy agents in physical gambling platforms.
Its sadden that land based sport betting sites agents will continue to give a bad reputation to land base gambling companies who without delay had always paid customers their won cash immediately their bet ticket is approved. However these pattern of scam is not peculiar to land based casinos or sport betting shops alone but similar to online gambling sites too.For me I think as long as traditional casinos can operate on daily basis and make bi players play on their edge, then they could still last. I believe the lesson in here is to really, only play with reliable casinos where they have verified payouts from their previous participants. In terms of online gambling, be aware of hidden rules and the activeness of customer service for any problem. And for traditional casinos, my biggest concern was always been my security. There's no point if I won a lot but I can't et out alive right?
I know one of the reasons some gamblers fail to use traditional casino's to use online is because of the fear of their security when they will large amount of money and it's then it goes public throughout the casino and it's environs. If you're one of such persons then you don't have to worry as you can always negotiate with the casino management to keep you anonymous without a third party knowing the identity of the winner.
I do not see why they have to apply a rule so selectively. The way that money laundering schemes use is not to put everything in the same virtual account, but rather spread it across many small transactions that fly under the taxman's radar. Activating such a measure just because the player is doing well is more of a way of scamming or looking for a excuse to not pay.
Severally sport bettors have faced this kind of challenge when they win big amount, because at the point of winning the Gambling agent may become very greedy to want to play a smart one of the gambler, but at the end of the day if the ticket can be presented to the head quarter of the casino, heay get settled from there on.
This case have happened to many people before and that may be the reason why most of the sport betting platforms always place limits to how much a betting agent can handle in term of payout of gambling winnings, because that will help them to eliminate such scam attempt from the betting agent.
This case have happened to many people before and that may be the reason why most of the sport betting platforms always place limits to how much a betting agent can handle in term of payout of gambling winnings, because that will help them to eliminate such scam attempt from the betting agent.
I choose online gambling because I don't want to be monitored, no one will see many as a gambler and if I get lucky no one will know that I just won a big amount of money, it will be a secret between the casino and I only.
I agree to this, the only way to your privacy will be exposed to the public is when the casino database was leaked which already happened in the past. In fact, I’m always receiving a promotional email from different casino that I didn’t know regularly on my spam mails.
Although playing in physical casino makes feel comfortable especially privacy since I leave far away from the casino which means there’s a very low chance I will met someone I knew there but playing online casino will give you the maximum privacy especially if the casino you are playing doesn’t ask for KYC.
Of a truth online casino really guarantee ones privacy because when one gambles nobody would know about it even when you win too nobody would know or hear about it. It remains a secret between you and the casino and just as you have said, it can only get revealed when the casino is likely hacked and informations of gamblers registered with the casino is being publicly displayed.
Secondly you receiving promotional emails from casinos you did not register with seems fishy because it is either your details have been leaked from a data base which have emails stored there or you must have filled forms before that requires your email and possibly those details must have been traded or leaked which you never can tell. You can block those email addresses from sending you mails for your own safety because you just might be tempted some day to click on it to see their features and then you begin not minding the consequences of what you have done.
Lastly, playing at a casino far away from home is quite alright but the truth is that you never can tell who you will come in contact with in course of going there. You should know one thing that as you are having this type of thought so some other persons elsewhere are having such thought and there is every possibility that amongst a 100 persons you might meet in the casino you might likely meet them somewhere else in the future. So it is not a guaranteed stuff that playing in a casino far away from home is safe. You can talk about comfort when it gets to that point but not thinking of hiding from people when you gamble at a physical casino far away from home.
I gave an example here, how i found in DarkNet ID of my mate, who doesn`t use internet. I think that one of banks lost it. It shows that our private data is in internet, even without KYC in some casino. Of course, if we leave it in lots of places, the chance it would be stolen increases, but i think that the main part of us too often leave it to be afraid of KYC today. But everybody can has his own opinion, so let it be so.
About deleting information - i tried it several times and never it was deleted. They have to delete it, if you ask, they say "ok", but never delete it.
One thing I think we all must realize is that, our information, or private information is Definitely someehere online somehow, and it doesn't matter whether we never did use online platforms and kyced on them, casino or exchanges, as far as we have accounts with physical establishments like the banks, and other government agencies, even the companies where worked or work, any of this platforms can be hacked, and customers or workers private information can be stolen, and they won't let any one know about it.About deleting information - i tried it several times and never it was deleted. They have to delete it, if you ask, they say "ok", but never delete it.
Or sometimes,, they can even be the ones that sell their users or customers private information to third parties for monetary reward.
So, for a person to have zero chances of having their private information appear online somewhere, then such a person must live completely isolated from all activities that involves him or her signing up any platform, online or offline.
If we should go by gambling challenges in general, both the physical and online have theirs, we are the ones that should know what we are doing in the sense that none got to deceive us and cheat on us, another thing we have to consider is when we don't know our rights, it will be taken from us and when we are deprived of it, we still don't see it as something bad done on us, I believed that someone that knows and understands more better about gambling wouldn't fall for this kind of trick.
Every casinos have their own challenges (of course) but the challenges in traditional gamble is more difficult than online casinos, online casinos can be easily operated by any gambler, even if you are a first time gambler you can understand what you are doing. Traditional casinos is different from online casinos and in a traditional casinos there are lot of cheating, either from the manager or from the gamblers. Most times problems happens, mostly when someone lost all his money and he feels very aggressive. 
Land based casinos can be seen to be equivalent to the sport betting site and not betting agent because the owner of the casino owns the casino building. Unlike sport betting agent which are just agent of a betting site.
This type of issue as been brought up before on this which is also about a Nigerian. But the person won in court as the betting agent assistant wanted to scam him and the betting agent shop owner was not around.
Also, I'll like to add that everyone have their preferences and it depends on the society one find themselves in, those living in an urban location would prefer to bet online at their comfort with any device while those in rural areas or those that are not able to operate gadgets nor are registered with an online sports betting company would rather go to a physical sports betting to place their bet. Nevertheless the agent is to be blamed for scam and not the company.
If we should go by gambling challenges in general, both the physical and online have theirs, we are the ones that should know what we are doing in the sense that none got to deceive us and cheat on us, another thing we have to consider is when we don't know our rights, it will be taken from us and when we are deprived of it, we still don't see it as something bad done on us, I believed that someone that knows and understands more better about gambling wouldn't fall for this kind of trick.
I choose online gambling because I don't want to be monitored, no one will see many as a gambler and if I get lucky no one will know that I just won a big amount of money, it will be a secret between the casino and I only.
I agree to this, the only way to your privacy will be exposed to the public is when the casino database was leaked which already happened in the past. In fact, I’m always receiving a promotional email from different casino that I didn’t know regularly on my spam mails.
Although playing in physical casino makes feel comfortable especially privacy since I leave far away from the casino which means there’s a very low chance I will met someone I knew there but playing online casino will give you the maximum privacy especially if the casino you are playing doesn’t ask for KYC.
People need to stop playing bets anywhere they see available, what is the use of getting robbed after many failed attempts to get lucky when gambling, it is not easy, always do your research about a gambling location before using them, unfortunately you can't escape this if you prefer offline betting over online, this is one of its disadvantages.
Bet agents are humans, they are not programmed like a robot or bots to process your wining fund straight away after you win, they have human minds and it's most time more uglier than any living thing in the world, if what you win is much they can plan to cheat or rob you, they can even plan to take your life, be very careful.
I choose online gambling because I don't want to be monitored, no one will see many as a gambler and if I get lucky no one will know that I just won a big amount of money, it will be a secret between the casino and I only.
Bet agents are humans, they are not programmed like a robot or bots to process your wining fund straight away after you win, they have human minds and it's most time more uglier than any living thing in the world, if what you win is much they can plan to cheat or rob you, they can even plan to take your life, be very careful.
I choose online gambling because I don't want to be monitored, no one will see many as a gambler and if I get lucky no one will know that I just won a big amount of money, it will be a secret between the casino and I only.
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The only reason why I prefer physical gambling is that you can not become a gambling addict easily why going to physical shops because there are some times when your work or job will not give you the chance to place a bet that day so you can literally discard playing gambling till the next day or some other time but the problem is in such case like this because most betting agents are very dubious in character and this is also one of the reasons why I choose to bet in companies that if you don't present the betting slip your winning can not be withdrawn by anyone. Playing gambling in companies that have the liberty to withdraw a winning even when the winning slip have not been presented is very risky.
Now betting online makes one become addicted easily because you have the privilege to book bet at any time at all even when you are at your work place which is not a good idea at all, though it makes your gambling lifestyle private and in a case of withdrawal, only you are aware of the money you won and withdrawn but their are still some scam betting companies that when you request for withdrawal it takes too many processes before the withdrawal can be processed and some challenges of KYC are also encountered whereas in physical betting in a gambling shops KYC is not needed but only the winning slip.
Another risk of betting offline is that as soon as a huge amount is won in that betting shop a lot of people are aware because some agents literally announce it to impress others to know that people are still winning big thereby to entice them to continue playing as they can also be lucky to win big and when the winner comes for his winning some people are also aware of who the winner is which can be dangerous because it can expose one to criminals that might start monitoring his activities and to rob him of his money but however, I don't even see a reason for someone to be greedy as you can literally place bets that the outcome isn't too high to avoid being scammed or going through a lot of processes just to claim the winning.
The popularity of online gambling platform have been on the increase for a while now thereby creating several arguments between them and the physical outlets in terms of which is the best. There was an incidence I saw on twitter this money that made me decide to create this post so anyone who is bent on using physical shops should be cautious.
Is there any Argument happening between the user of online gambling platforms and the physical ones, i think what everyone go for is what they feels best for them, also, a times, the circumstance around us may determine the platform we are going to use for gambling especially when we are having challenges from gambling due to any unforeseen circumstances, we may only be left to result into the alternative means in other for us to gamble.
in online casino but if wanted to be exposed and enjoy with real person then better
to go in Casino houses in which you will have interaction to people around the place
this is what some of my gambler friends do , they are playing in both physical and online
casinos.
and we are lucky to have bitcointalk as a medium to find what is better casino
to play with.
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