Topic: More revelations on the challenges of physical casinos - page 3. (Read 2628 times)

We are talking about physical casinos, mate. Those things like KYC checks, videos with the player’s face and stuff, it relates more to online casinos, no? If it wasn't a mistake on your side and there are things like that in physical casinos somewhere, I'd like to read more about that.

Anyway, my first advice is don't go gambling to shady places, because it is very likely that they won't give you your big prize if you win it.

Yeah!  These unpleasant events, due to the difficulty of paying a player a large win, can happen to a very experienced player.
 This is due to the fact that a player who has been gambling for a long time and during the game usually does not make very large bets and, accordingly, usually does not receive very large winnings, simply gets used to this course of events in his gaming history.  But one day he might get very lucky and the winnings turn out to be very big.  Naturally, this is a big expense for the casino and it begins to make some additional demands in order to pay out the winnings.  This could be additional KYC checks, a request for some documents, or, for example, a video with the player’s face and other evidence of identity confirmation.  This naturally causes irritation in the player, loss of time for correspondence with support and other troubles.  And often, as a result of these showdowns with winnings, such a player never achieves his winnings.  
And few people are able to demand this through the court, simply because it requires a lot of time and costs for a lawyer or specialist in such court cases.  For many, these costs are simply catastrophically large and there is no guarantee of suing the casino for the money they win.  As a result, the player loses all his winnings and the money actually remains in the casino itself.

Unfortunately, this problem relates not only to the gamblers who are just starting. I know that many experienced gamblers are too falling for this trap, when they hear promises about enormous bonuses and highly attractive promotions. Little do they know that some dishonest casinos want only one thing from them - their money. Such casinos are not planning to payout big wins to the winners.

It seems to me that serious gaming businesses make sure that among their agents there are no intermediaries who commit fraudulent acts against clients.  Rather, these are all rather random manifestations of the fraudulent nature of individual people.  But if a business receives a series of signals about fraudulent counterparties, then naturally, in order to maintain its reputation, these counterparties are kicked out in disgrace and players are warned never to interact with them. 
It seems to me that this is how it is donre everywhere in the world of gambling.

If we gamble through an agent, usually they can commit fraud or fool the user as OP said, but if we gamble directly, the casino will of course give us winnings at that time if we have proof of winning without needing to go around making lots of excuses like the agents do. in order to deceive its users.
Always be careful if you want to bet through a casino agent, indeed not all agents are like that, but usually greedy human nature is difficult to get rid of. Agents like this will also affect the reputation of the gambling platform which actually doesn't want to commit fraud and will make users not trust the platform anymore.

This is more reason why the online casino is gradually taking out the business for local betting shops. On online casinos, you don't have to entrust your withdrawal winning to any one as it is given to you on your account immediately you make your winnings. The only time issues comes with online casino is when you have failed to complete some verification that would require your withdrawal. From your story op, it clearly shows that the agent had monitored the man's game and took the money immediately after the cash out. I won't how it was possible to have someone's ticket, if it wasn't the one who printed it. I guess he made a copy of the ticket and took the withdrawal before the man had arrived. We just have to be careful while using the local betting shops. That's because no matter how many online casinos are created everyday, some people will still prefer the physical shops.

Well, of course, as an advertisement for any casino, the marketing services of any casino always present how and how much a player can potentially, or better say “theoretically,” win in a given casino.
 And I have never seen an advertisement where marketers would write that in this casino you can lose so many dollars, feel free to come in and play, and lose “as much as possible.”  Of course, such advertising is insanity and can only be launched publicly for the sake of a joke.  By the way, maybe someone did such an advertisement.
 It often seems to me that many of those who have won big money in casinos, which the media tell us about, are still dummies bought by advertisers and are simply deceiving us with such advertising.  Although, in principle, any advertising is always a predominance of good consequences for a person from the purchase of a product or service.  And naturally, hiding all possible negative consequences of such a purchase of a product or service.  And everyone is about the same with mistrust of advertising.  But at the same time, they still remember what is advertised.  And this is the main effect of advertising.

Well, I think it is very possible that some physical casinos can act totally strange towards paying out a gambler's winning reward, and this is common in some countries. According to what Wiwo said, $30k is really a huge amount, and the gambler is not supposed to just allow such money to slide. Apart from what you said, @erep, I think another way to handle this kind of issue is to take legal action against the casino, and if the news of such legal action is released, it will really affect the casino and therefore they will try to avoid such thing.

The thing is that, those casinos doesn't care about the gamblers loses amd their put a close eye when the gambler lose but open wide the eye when there is big winning.

Although most of those casinos are already known scam and have hard some past cases, although none those casinos haso much good reputations.

I don't think there are so many ridiculous reasons just to refuse paying out winnings from a physical casino, and what if the gambler has high losses and does the gambler blame the casino, of course not but casinos don't care about reputation rather than paying out high winnings.

Gamblers must document proof of winnings and promote it on social media to embarrass the casino and to prevent other victims of fraud as they could potentially experience the same problem.

They would really be focusing on which it is really that something positive and not into those things on which it would really be something that make people getting hooked on the moment that they would really be seeing those things. Of course casinos wont really be showing off into those losing people or gamblers but rather they would really be marketing themselves with having those big hits or winnings that their
gamblers do able to hit into and would really be making out some boost when it comes to marketing or exposure on which it would really be understandable with this kind of aspect.

We do know that when it comes to marketing then they would really be doing it as much as possible that they could really be able to make it that interesting and catchy.
It would really be just that everything would be depending about recognition and attention basing up on what gamblers would sees up.

Or the casino will just say that the system glitch and the winnings is not valid. Just like what happened to a woman named Katrina Bookman. Way back 2016, she played in Resorts World Casino in New York and sat down at the Sphinx wild slot machine where she should have won a $43 million dollar jackpot but the casino stated that the machine malfunctioned and voided her winnings of the jackpot price.  You can read the story here: $43 Million Jackpot Win Voided As Casino Claims Malfunction


Lol the reason was nonsense.  Regardless of how a person believe in spiritual powers, it shouldn't be used as an excuse to void a person of his winnings.  I believe the court won't favor that excuse and probably the person is able to get his $30k winnings.  Is there any news about the result of this dispute?

There have been alot of challenges with pay out in many physic casinos and most time when gamblers win big amount the casino tend to unjustly ban they account and denying them of their winnings.

There was a case where a gambler won $30,0000 from a physical casino and he was denied of oay and also ban on all other casinos, claiming that the gambler use spiritual power to predict and  the bets, this is how bad it is on physical casinos.

People tend to believe what casinos advertise, including wins that are said to be easy to get. Of course, for beginners, when they see advertisements like this, they won't think long. Of course they will gamble with the aim of winning, but unfortunately the advertisements that are distributed are only a lure that is limited to spectacle so that they are trapped by their own thoughts which makes them often experience big losses. However, this is not wrong because casinos that advertise do not force other people to gamble.
The problem that often arises when winning is greed, where there will be thoughts of continuing to bet by increasing the bet amount because you want to get a bigger win. However, this is not a guarantee because with them like that they will only experience difficulty in being able to withdraw the winnings they have obtained. This doesn't just apply to beginners, I think even those who are experienced can feel it.

The two of you are right, of course, many issues are caused by gamblers, and in some cases as well, they are just victims of the circumstances. And if you read what @Dunamsx wrote, he never mentioned "all" but "many." Above all, the conclusion of the two of you is very valid and somewhat agrees as well, and I say that the two types of casinos are good, but no matter how good they are, they will have their cons too, if not many. I have replied many times on this thread and shared numerous pros and cons of the two, regardless, we should choose based on our preference and what we can handle and we should try as much as possible to gamble in such a way that any gambler fault is not from our end.

As for me, I like to do the two together depending on the mood. However, due to the nature and better accessibility of online casinos, I do it more. And if I should put them in a ratio, it should be more than the ratio of 1:100 (Land-based:Online). I said that because I've experienced the two, and till today, I've never experienced any reason to regret gambling through either of them.

Clearly, the problem of receiving winnings from a casino that operates in the so-called “gray zone” is a serious problem for players who are just starting to gamble.  Probably such players believed the promises of such not entirely legitimate casinos about bonuses and promotions and perhaps even played them and even won.  But when it comes to winning, difficulties and troubles begin.  Moreover, the player thinks for a long time that he will be able to get this money, although experienced players immediately understand that he will never receive it. 
As a result, the nerves and time of a newbie in gambling were wasted.  And there may also be general disappointment in this type of entertainment in general.

Unfortunately, not all gamblers understand that. Lured by unimaginably high bonus on deposits, cashbacks and stuff like that, they register on unknown platforms, deposit their money there and start playing, not knowing that the only option they have is to lose. If they win due to some glitch in that matrix of deception, they will never be able to withdraw their money.


Not giving out the won money is a common practice in physical casinos located in uncontrolled areas. I wouldn't those places "casinos" even. They are just traps for fools.

It would really be just an another story if we do speak about making gambling as your main source of income or something that talking about making money with gambling on which this is something that cant really be just that possible or something that this is the main reason on why this industry is really that making that huge revenue just because with these kind of hopes and wishes.
Going back into the topic on which it would really be that common sense that you would really be sticking into those old and reputable ones rather than on making yourself getting involved into those
platforms on which arent known or something that been having that good reputation.

As for physical gambling platforms on where there would really be some intermediaries in between then this is the hassle and the risks when it comes to potential lose of funds
just because its not being that given into the winner despite of the outlet given up already the winning. Human greed is really that something that will really be
the main reason on why you would really be that tempted on getting those funds which isnt yours.

Don't go to shady places and gamble there. If all the casinos in your area are shady places - don't gamble at all then. Or, you can find a reputable online platform and gamble there. But remember you shouldn't be looking for those gambling platforms with the intention of making money from gambling there. Most likely you won't. If you want to make good money, find a good-paying job, and then you can be looking for a reliable gambling platforms to relax from your work there from time to time. Why look for a reliable one? Because there if you win big by chance, you'll get your money without problems.

In my opinion, what the OP wrote is of course quite offensive and naturally unfair.  But all gamblers should always keep in mind that there are always a lot of dishonest people and scammers around the entire gambling business all over the world.  And in order not to become a victim of such dishonest people, you just need to be very careful and serious about everything that happens both during the game and during periods when a person, a player, is just about to place a bet.  And of course, you should not get too euphoric if you win, but first really get this money into your wallet and only then consider that you are really a winner. 

In general, advice: gambling is not an activity where you can relax completely and completely forget about safety.