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The popularity of online gambling platform have been on the increase for a while now thereby creating several arguments between them and the  physical outlets in terms of which is the best. There was an incidence I saw on twitter this money that made me decide to create this post so anyone who is bent on using physical shops should be cautious.

According to the tweet and the victim narration, he bet the game in a physical shop and won N16,700,000 (~$13,500) but the agent of the shop refused to pay him even after the betting company from their head office instructed him to pay. Not that the company did not pay the agent, they paid but the agent refused to pay him saying that someone else have come to withdraw the money. He approached the court only to get N3,000,000( $2,400) out of the total winning and was asked to go and look for the people that withdrew that money. Normally, when there is winning, the only way to withdraw is to tender the ticket to the agents who will take the ticket before paying the winning. So I do not know how someone will withdraw the winning of another and what the person used to make the withdrawal. I think the agent wanted to steal the entire money but due to the pressure from the court, he has to return part of it. I see this as a warning on the dangers of greedy agents in physical gambling platforms.

Source: https://twitter.com/General_Oluchi/status/1782027404027797716

This is definitely bad because a gambler wins a bet after losing several attempts.
So if he is winning the bet after several attempts and still not able to get his reward then it will definitely raise his anger level.
Anybody would get mad in such a situation. Good to know that he at least got a part of his reward but it's bad to see such agents stealing the rewards like this.
The fraction he got is so poor, less than 20% of his entitlement. It is very unfair for the gambler because, just like you said, he would have lost so much before he finally won that money. The annoying part is that no one bother about the pain he passed through losing and going back to look for more money to play again. Nobody is talking about the number of times he would have spend in the shop gambling and probably being seen as irresponsible as it is with most physical shops. The least that would have happened to him is to receive his complete payment. This way he would have been able to start up a reliable business that can generate more money for him. It is just unfortunate that the apex company are showing indifference because they were supposed to take the matter up since their reputation is being threatened.
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So for me, online casino is the new revolution; it provides convenience, and you can play whenever and wherever you are, but of course, online casino still comes with cons, such as gambling addiction or what, so both have flaws, so it depends on the gambler where he wants to play gambling.


I kinda agree with  this. Online casinos is a new domain of my gambling activity. Heretofore I was a gambling shops fly and though those places have always mesmerized me I have never feel myself comfortable inside suffering the myriads of strange glances.  

Now, I am gambling on-line, in front of my laptop display  with epy webcam cover acquired for this case.
 
Every era definitely has changes in maintaining the privacy of players and being able to avoid things you don't want, such as being noticed by someone's strange glances at you, or paying attention to someone's personal gestures can also be a problem for some people who don't want that. , so it's not surprising that everyone is in favor of online gambling.
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I don't think there are much challenges with the use of physical casino even though as at now, gamblers will prefer more of the use of online crypto gambling casinos than the physical ones because of their comfort and affordability, gambling is not what we don't enjoy like that, we are the ones that play bets and gambles in some ways which we shouldn't because of some personal issues that surrounds how we are gambling, while using a physical casino or not is by individual preference.

Gamblers will definitely gamble in their preferred gambling platform whether it's online or land based no matter the challenge or problems that they may face in gambling websites or on the landed casinos. So many people have had different issues with online gambling and some people too have had several issues too with landed casino of which if gamblers agrees to put all those challenges in consideration, the rate of gambling will decline.
You are making a very good point and I've always said that whether it is online gambling or physical ones, they have higher benefits to offer than to dissuade or disappoint any gambler from going there to play and have fun or make money. They are both there for reasons, it now depends on the gambler in question to choose the one he wants at that moment. I've also read enough of the excuses given against the land-based casinos on this thread but my question is; are they always happening?

What people cite most times as the issue rarely happens, though none of the casino types are without issues of their own. What if your online casino witnessed a security breach that affected all your money since hackers took away all the money found in the casino? This happens, except that most of them bounce back, but what if yours couldn't bounce back and you have more than $10,000 in it, is that not a risk? So, for it to be possible doesn't mean we will run away from online casinos. The same goes for the few excuses people give to dissuade gamblers from gambling land-based casinos.
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The popularity of online gambling platform have been on the increase for a while now thereby creating several arguments between them and the  physical outlets in terms of which is the best. There was an incidence I saw on twitter this money that made me decide to create this post so anyone who is bent on using physical shops should be cautious.

According to the tweet and the victim narration, he bet the game in a physical shop and won N16,700,000 (~$13,500) but the agent of the shop refused to pay him even after the betting company from their head office instructed him to pay. Not that the company did not pay the agent, they paid but the agent refused to pay him saying that someone else have come to withdraw the money. He approached the court only to get N3,000,000( $2,400) out of the total winning and was asked to go and look for the people that withdrew that money. Normally, when there is winning, the only way to withdraw is to tender the ticket to the agents who will take the ticket before paying the winning. So I do not know how someone will withdraw the winning of another and what the person used to make the withdrawal. I think the agent wanted to steal the entire money but due to the pressure from the court, he has to return part of it. I see this as a warning on the dangers of greedy agents in physical gambling platforms.

Source: https://twitter.com/General_Oluchi/status/1782027404027797716

This is definitely bad because a gambler wins a bet after losing several attempts.
So if he is winning the bet after several attempts and still not able to get his reward then it will definitely raise his anger level.
Anybody would get mad in such a situation. Good to know that he at least got a part of his reward but it's bad to see such agents stealing the rewards like this.
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The challenges that should be in consideration most shouldn't be limited to that of the physical casinos because each one has their own benefits, comparing them together, online and physical gambling casinos could both have their advantages and disadvantages respectively and this will be determined mostly by the way of how the gamblers take to handle them, moreover there is less attraction on physical casinos these days than we had before and online gambling casinos are the ones trending except for the remote areas.
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As business such as this then of course they would really be that preferring those losers on which we know that this is where they would really be making huge money into this business.
If we do look around then there are lots of casino platforms that we are seeing online, not that much on physical but in overall revenue talking then it do really generates millions if not then it would be billions.

In regarding on the situation stated on OP on which someone did make out some transaction with some 3rd party and ended up on not getting paid just because the agent ran away with the funds?Its not really that shocking anymore that people would really be tempted on getting those winnings since it do involves huge money. This is why im not really that comfortable just in case on having that kind of
set up when claiming up the prize or winning amount. There's always really that tendency on having that kind of ran away with those funds which it would really be a disaster if it would happen.
You are right in that regard and these are things that have to do with casinos, but in their internal system as such, that is why when we go to any casino and this happens, well I think it is already a vulnerability that must be handled with caution so that it does not happen again, and it could be that every money that has to be given to the player has to be recorded in a document and signed by the person who receives the money, otherwise not much can be done, that is Something that we should always look at, and in casinos they have to look at things like that, it is much better to avoid problems like this in the Future.

In my opinion, it’s very disappointing if you were lucky and won a large sum in a casino, and actually didn’t receive it. 
And you were happy, and maybe even began to consider yourself rich and lucky.  And then a story begins that not only fraudulently deprives you of the money you won, but also leaves a terribly unpleasant aftertaste in your life.  By the way, a person remembers such cases all his life and the brain is designed in such a way that the thought of being offended by deception still pops up in the memory from time to time and at such moments it becomes very unpleasant.
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As business such as this then of course they would really be that preferring those losers on which we know that this is where they would really be making huge money into this business.
If we do look around then there are lots of casino platforms that we are seeing online, not that much on physical but in overall revenue talking then it do really generates millions if not then it would be billions.

In regarding on the situation stated on OP on which someone did make out some transaction with some 3rd party and ended up on not getting paid just because the agent ran away with the funds?Its not really that shocking anymore that people would really be tempted on getting those winnings since it do involves huge money. This is why im not really that comfortable just in case on having that kind of
set up when claiming up the prize or winning amount. There's always really that tendency on having that kind of ran away with those funds which it would really be a disaster if it would happen.
You are right in that regard and these are things that have to do with casinos, but in their internal system as such, that is why when we go to any casino and this happens, well I think it is already a vulnerability that must be handled with caution so that it does not happen again, and it could be that every money that has to be given to the player has to be recorded in a document and signed by the person who receives the money, otherwise not much can be done, that is Something that we should always look at, and in casinos they have to look at things like that, it is much better to avoid problems like this in the Future.
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Physical casinos in general don’t like gamblers that win money. They don’t care if some tourist in Vegas wins 3-4 figures but if you are a regular which keeps winning 4-5 figures every visit, they will suspect you are cheating and ban you from the casino.

Go on YouTube and search for “gamblers beating Vegas” and you will see some that won in the past and got banned or they are gambling right now and get banned from every casino because they are profitable.


That’s the reality with gambling casinos, they just want to see you giving out free money into casinos, because the more you suffer from losses, the more they get profitable. Sadly, not all gambling casinos in return  are responsible to pay their winners, and before you have recovered all your previous losses, you have been banned already from betting on them or your bets are already limited with small amount. That’s somehow very unfair for us. But still, a lot of us still fall on gambling traps.
As business such as this then of course they would really be that preferring those losers on which we know that this is where they would really be making huge money into this business.
If we do look around then there are lots of casino platforms that we are seeing online, not that much on physical but in overall revenue talking then it do really generates millions if not then it would be billions.

In regarding on the situation stated on OP on which someone did make out some transaction with some 3rd party and ended up on not getting paid just because the agent ran away with the funds?Its not really that shocking anymore that people would really be tempted on getting those winnings since it do involves huge money. This is why im not really that comfortable just in case on having that kind of
set up when claiming up the prize or winning amount. There's always really that tendency on having that kind of ran away with those funds which it would really be a disaster if it would happen.
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So for me, online casino is the new revolution; it provides convenience, and you can play whenever and wherever you are, but of course, online casino still comes with cons, such as gambling addiction or what, so both have flaws, so it depends on the gambler where he wants to play gambling.

It is very true, sometimes we enter establishments that we do not know how they are with respect to the law, in the case of the country where I live it is very close to Colombia and it is a fact that everything related to drug activity can be used by casinos to grab that money and use it for themselves, sometimes you meet people who do not know what they are involved in, and these things can be very common "here" and that is the dangerous thing, in online casinos things are different, there is a lot of demotivation regarding KYC, but that is already a fact, it is already known that KYC is mandatory and it is the only thing that I do not like about online casinos.
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Physical casinos in general don’t like gamblers that win money. They don’t care if some tourist in Vegas wins 3-4 figures but if you are a regular which keeps winning 4-5 figures every visit, they will suspect you are cheating and ban you from the casino.

Go on YouTube and search for “gamblers beating Vegas” and you will see some that won in the past and got banned or they are gambling right now and get banned from every casino because they are profitable.


That’s the reality with gambling casinos, they just want to see you giving out free money into casinos, because the more you suffer from losses, the more they get profitable. Sadly, not all gambling casinos in return  are responsible to pay their winners, and before you have recovered all your previous losses, you have been banned already from betting on them or your bets are already limited with small amount. That’s somehow very unfair for us. But still, a lot of us still fall on gambling traps.
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One of the problems that people who frequent physical casinos may have is encountering situations in which they see a player who has lost everything screaming inside the casino or causing confusion and/or fighting with other players inside the casino. For this and other reasons, physical casinos have security and police. to protect players and maintain order inside and outside the casino. Also in physical casinos there are cameras in every corner inside the casino, in my opinion this must be very uncomfortable for players

but as physical casinos have already seen many cheaters, they were forced to place cameras in every corner of the casino, this way the casino employees are monitoring each person inside the physical casino, and from what I could observe it is that hardly a person will win money frequently in the same physical casino, they will immediately ban people who frequently win money in the physical casino, they will accuse the person of cheating

You are really speaking with the full experience of someone who has repeatedly used a land-based casino. In my country, you will see some people just arguing unnecessarily, making noise, and causing confusion in the casino, and if you are not careful with such people, they can even pick up a fight with you, which can result in an unwanted situation where the police can come in and arrest you guys for interrogation. I hate to be involved in such situations, so anytime I see trouble coming, I usually stay clear. 

I like that "land-based" casino expression, I hope nobody is using an air-borne casino Smiley but I guess it could be in a Mississippi boat. Jokes apart, there are physical locations that are nearly a theme park in themselves, Las Vegas being the classic examples for this. That is nearly impossible to replicate in an on-line location which is more for the "everyday" bet or a job-break quick wager.
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One of the problems that people who frequent physical casinos may have is encountering situations in which they see a player who has lost everything screaming inside the casino or causing confusion and/or fighting with other players inside the casino. For this and other reasons, physical casinos have security and police. to protect players and maintain order inside and outside the casino. Also in physical casinos there are cameras in every corner inside the casino, in my opinion this must be very uncomfortable for players

but as physical casinos have already seen many cheaters, they were forced to place cameras in every corner of the casino, this way the casino employees are monitoring each person inside the physical casino, and from what I could observe it is that hardly a person will win money frequently in the same physical casino, they will immediately ban people who frequently win money in the physical casino, they will accuse the person of cheating

You are really speaking with the full experience of someone who has repeatedly used a land-based casino. In my country, you will see some people just arguing unnecessarily, making noise, and causing confusion in the casino, and if you are not careful with such people, they can even pick up a fight with you, which can result in an unwanted situation where the police can come in and arrest you guys for interrogation. I hate to be involved in such situations, so anytime I see trouble coming, I usually stay clear. 
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Some events or happenings related to that are because the physical casino is illegal or not registered, and sometimes they are not paying the right tax. That's why it's hard to go to a physical casino because if you are unlucky and caught in the act of playing that casino, then you will also be arrested or whatever. And that's right, some physical casinos are raided because there are rumours or reports about illegal activity such as prostitution or illegal drugs. It may be the reason for me that I'm not a fan of playing in physical casinos; I don't want to be involved in this scenario or happening.

So for me, online casino is the new revolution; it provides convenience, and you can play whenever and wherever you are, but of course, online casino still comes with cons, such as gambling addiction or what, so both have flaws, so it depends on the gambler where he wants to play gambling.
Instead of having problems visiting a physical casino, it is better to see an online casino. That will reduce problems that could arise because you don't have to travel anywhere. You can gamble at home or even in your own room without anyone knowing.

I'm not a fan of physical casinos because I'm too afraid of problems. Going to a physical casino doesn't always guarantee that we can come to the casino and go home safely. There is a lot of crime out there, and if we take money out of the house, we really have to be careful.

There are also physical casinos that may be involved in money laundering cases. That would be riskier for those of us who just want to enjoy gambling as entertainment. Online casinos provide many conveniences for gamblers, but behind this convenience, we have to be really careful because excessive gambling can cause us to become addicted to gambling.
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So for me, online casino is the new revolution; it provides convenience, and you can play whenever and wherever you are, but of course, online casino still comes with cons, such as gambling addiction or what, so both have flaws, so it depends on the gambler where he wants to play gambling.


I kinda agree with  this. Online casinos is a new domain of my gambling activity. Heretofore I was a gambling shops fly and though those places have always mesmerized me I have never feel myself comfortable inside suffering the myriads of strange glances.  

Now, I am gambling on-line, in front of my laptop display  with epy webcam cover acquired for this case.
 
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In that aspect you are completely right, when I gamble I have not had any problems, when I started to discover casinos, which was when I was at university, there was an incident, because the police came and the ones I saw were From a very young age they They asked for his identification and were looking for people who had escaped from prison. In this aspect things were different, although there was no violence, it can always cause tension when there is a police presence in a place like this, one thinks that there are things out there that can harm us, in those situations one always thinks badly, because It's more likely, or maybe I was too cautious.


My brother, some situations like that can just cause you to freak out because sometimes, even if you are not involved in anything, the police can arrest you and take you to the station for questioning, which I don't usually like all that kind of stuff. I have never had any police issues and have been trying my best to avoid them. 

I have not experienced such an ugly situation but have witnessed fighting in the casino. That day, I actually took pictures and wanted to use them to create a topic about common occurrences in land-based casinos, but I just felt it was not necessary then, so I just deleted the pictures.

I have also witnessed countless of situations whereby i saw the police raiding on some of the gambling casinos and gamblers were running helter scelter for their lives avoiding to be taken away into custody, this is because they have realized that a lot of illicit activities were ongoing in the casino house and of which many were in violation of the rules of the government, whereas there are some gambling casinos as well which never witnessed such occurrence before because activities there were being well coordinated.
Some events or happenings related to that are because the physical casino is illegal or not registered, and sometimes they are not paying the right tax. That's why it's hard to go to a physical casino because if you are unlucky and caught in the act of playing that casino, then you will also be arrested or whatever. And that's right, some physical casinos are raided because there are rumours or reports about illegal activity such as prostitution or illegal drugs. It may be the reason for me that I'm not a fan of playing in physical casinos; I don't want to be involved in this scenario or happening.

So for me, online casino is the new revolution; it provides convenience, and you can play whenever and wherever you are, but of course, online casino still comes with cons, such as gambling addiction or what, so both have flaws, so it depends on the gambler where he wants to play gambling.
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My brother, some situations like that can just cause you to freak out because sometimes, even if you are not involved in anything, the police can arrest you and take you to the station for questioning, which I don't usually like all that kind of stuff. I have never had any police issues and have been trying my best to avoid them. 

I have not experienced such an ugly situation but have witnessed fighting in the casino. That day, I actually took pictures and wanted to use them to create a topic about common occurrences in land-based casinos, but I just felt it was not necessary then, so I just deleted the pictures.

Yes, you are absolutely right. Personally, I have always been careful about that kind of thing. Sometimes in my country the authorities are quite extortionate, if they see people behaving badly and they offer the police a good amount of money, they do nothing about it. I have never agreed with any of that. But mostly what you see is smuggling. They don’t get into casinos much anymore because most of the people who come in are from the government and those people have bodyguards with guns and everything, so what can you do? Nothing However, if problems arise , it’s like killing someone, and that’s asking for unnecessary trouble.
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In that aspect you are completely right, when I gamble I have not had any problems, when I started to discover casinos, which was when I was at university, there was an incident, because the police came and the ones I saw were From a very young age they They asked for his identification and were looking for people who had escaped from prison. In this aspect things were different, although there was no violence, it can always cause tension when there is a police presence in a place like this, one thinks that there are things out there that can harm us, in those situations one always thinks badly, because It's more likely, or maybe I was too cautious.


My brother, some situations like that can just cause you to freak out because sometimes, even if you are not involved in anything, the police can arrest you and take you to the station for questioning, which I don't usually like all that kind of stuff. I have never had any police issues and have been trying my best to avoid them. 

I have not experienced such an ugly situation but have witnessed fighting in the casino. That day, I actually took pictures and wanted to use them to create a topic about common occurrences in land-based casinos, but I just felt it was not necessary then, so I just deleted the pictures.

I have also witnessed countless of situations whereby i saw the police raiding on some of the gambling casinos and gamblers were running helter scelter for their lives avoiding to be taken away into custody, this is because they have realized that a lot of illicit activities were ongoing in the casino house and of which many were in violation of the rules of the government, whereas there are some gambling casinos as well which never witnessed such occurrence before because activities there were being well coordinated.
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In that aspect you are completely right, when I gamble I have not had any problems, when I started to discover casinos, which was when I was at university, there was an incident, because the police came and the ones I saw were From a very young age they They asked for his identification and were looking for people who had escaped from prison. In this aspect things were different, although there was no violence, it can always cause tension when there is a police presence in a place like this, one thinks that there are things out there that can harm us, in those situations one always thinks badly, because It's more likely, or maybe I was too cautious.


My brother, some situations like that can just cause you to freak out because sometimes, even if you are not involved in anything, the police can arrest you and take you to the station for questioning, which I don't usually like all that kind of stuff. I have never had any police issues and have been trying my best to avoid them. 

I have not experienced such an ugly situation but have witnessed fighting in the casino. That day, I actually took pictures and wanted to use them to create a topic about common occurrences in land-based casinos, but I just felt it was not necessary then, so I just deleted the pictures.

One of the problems that people who frequent physical casinos may have is encountering situations in which they see a player who has lost everything screaming inside the casino or causing confusion and/or fighting with other players inside the casino. For this and other reasons, physical casinos have security and police. to protect players and maintain order inside and outside the casino. Also in physical casinos there are cameras in every corner inside the casino, in my opinion this must be very uncomfortable for players

but as physical casinos have already seen many cheaters, they were forced to place cameras in every corner of the casino, this way the casino employees are monitoring each person inside the physical casino, and from what I could observe it is that hardly a person will win money frequently in the same physical casino, they will immediately ban people who frequently win money in the physical casino, they will accuse the person of cheating
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In that aspect you are completely right, when I gamble I have not had any problems, when I started to discover casinos, which was when I was at university, there was an incident, because the police came and the ones I saw were From a very young age they They asked for his identification and were looking for people who had escaped from prison. In this aspect things were different, although there was no violence, it can always cause tension when there is a police presence in a place like this, one thinks that there are things out there that can harm us, in those situations one always thinks badly, because It's more likely, or maybe I was too cautious.


My brother, some situations like that can just cause you to freak out because sometimes, even if you are not involved in anything, the police can arrest you and take you to the station for questioning, which I don't usually like all that kind of stuff. I have never had any police issues and have been trying my best to avoid them. 

I have not experienced such an ugly situation but have witnessed fighting in the casino. That day, I actually took pictures and wanted to use them to create a topic about common occurrences in land-based casinos, but I just felt it was not necessary then, so I just deleted the pictures.
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I don't think there are much challenges with the use of physical casino even though as at now, gamblers will prefer more of the use of online crypto gambling casinos than the physical ones because of their comfort and affordability, gambling is not what we don't enjoy like that, we are the ones that play bets and gambles in some ways which we shouldn't because of some personal issues that surrounds how we are gambling, while using a physical casino or not is by individual preference.
Despite this increasing popularity of online casinos, offline casinos still exist and plays a big role in the gambling market, most of the time, we tend to overlook physical casinos because of the privacy aspect as genuine gamblers, but to those who are looking to do some shady stuffs life the money launderers they prefer physical casinos where they can born the cash without any trace.


Between, online casinos still remain the best and with time, it may take over the entire market and physical casinos may get phased out at some point.
Despite both online and offline casinos offering pretty much the same games, the public towards they are geared are completely different, those that gamble online only care about gambling itself and nothing more.

However those that like to gamble at offline casinos care about the whole experience, this is why offline casinos offer the best restaurants, shows, and comfort you can imagine to incentive those people to comeback and choose them over their online counterparts.
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