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Unfortunately I can't find the source now.    I came across the news on Twitter and I can't remember the name of the profile shared it.

I don't think the engineer I talked about is close to be one of the best engineers in F1 history though.    Binotto is indeed a great engineer. Ferrari should have benefited from his engineering skills instead of making him team principal. But this is Ferrari and it has become natural to see them making the bad calls most of the time these days.

Newey is absolutely one of the bests and I believe he is better than Binotto. Red Bull will really miss him. But at least Binotto would still be a great replacement for him.

I agree with V8 but on the same time it is safe for the public ? because it's great for us the fans who are watching from TV but on the track , the sound is pretty insane to hear trust me.

I also agree with tyres because that would also make the competition tighter than it currently is.

I agree with DRS as well because Senna said that you need pure aspiration and pure racing in order to decide who is the best driver on track and Max knows that and this is my favorite quote of him so far.

Let's hope FIA , car constructors and drivers will find a way to please everyone in 2026. 

RBR is dominating even more this weekend so far.

They are doing incredible timers with harder compounds over the other teams.


Should be an easy 1-2...

Please include names and the site where you got the info...  Thanks.

But if the said 'good Ferrari engineer' is close to Binotto, I wouldn't say it's a long shot that Red Bull actually hires Binotto to be their CTO to replace Adrian Newey who could retire after this season or the next.  Binotto is a really good F1 car designer, if not one of the best in the history of F1.  Not a good team principal tho.  That one should be left to the likes of Horner.  

Anyway, here are the results of FP1...  Red Bull making a statement right off the bat.  So unlike them.  Let's see how the other teams respond and adjust at FP2.


2023 F1 British GP FP1 Results

1      Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m28.600s
2   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m29.048s
3   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m29.089s
4   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m29.268s
5   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m29.280s
6   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m29.319s
7   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m29.357s
8   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m29.441s
9   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m29.471s
10   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m29.658s
11   Nyck de Vries   NED   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m29.691s
12   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m29.768s
13   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m29.828s
14   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m29.874s
15   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m30.090s
16   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m30.092s
17   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m30.124s
18   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m30.321s
19   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m30.385s
20   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m30.591s

In the past when there was no DRS in this sport overtaking was really tough for drivers. But this helped people watch a much more competitive challenges between drivers at the same time. Those times were showing the skillset difference of drivers more clearly. Maybe DRS makes us watch many more overtakes now but not most of them are that much impressive.

So I agree that there shouldn't be a need for DRS in the future. This is a thing FIA can do if they want and they can still keep the sport attracting by some regulations on cars. In this situation even the drivers of most dominant teams would have to face a little more difficulties in overtaking their competitors which would make it more exciting to watch. 

I would strongly agree removing DRS in certain tracks where you can do well even without it,kinda like the Monza style or Canada where DRS play a crucial role in making persons overtake cars.I know many of you will not agree with the removal of DRS but if we want real competition back this needs to get out of the F1 seasons.It should be more because of driver ability rather because of opening the drag reduction system,also for the tires we should have at least 3 providers and every team to choose what they prefer,this limitations from FIA choosing only one provider make the races even more boring than usual.For the engines whatever they are they are,most likely all of the cars can have a good top speed from what I have seen in these races.

The 2026 engines are already chosen so his opinions count nothing since teams are already working on them.
About DRS he is right but it will not happen since these cars need to push to aerodynamics.

Verstappen has some opinions of his own for 2026 season:

- He thinks that we should see cars with V8 engines back again.
- The cars should have smaller tyres and their weight should be reduced.
- Lastly the need for DRS should be put to an end.

I don't know how much FIA would care about Verstappen's opinions though. But the current era is really not ideal for the rest of the teams now. Having some significant changes might give us some hope about watching a more competitive season for the championship maybe.

I strongly agree that we need closer cars and a great example of this was the age,golden age of Senna and others where the driver was a real game changer even when he was not driving the best car of the grid but second or third best.That was because most electronics that drivers have nowadays were all manual back then,the driver had to do a lot manually especially the gearbox was not as complicated as it is now so the drivers like Senna for example have won races with different cars,Hamilton also did but when racing at McLaren he was struggling to win races like he did at Mercedes and that is why we need a lot more cars that are in close proximity when it comes to performance so we can spot some good drivers.

Verstappen looks like he is from another planet but for me he isn't,when Redbull was not at top form he barely could win a single race and now he is already 30 times or more race winner or something along those lines all thanks to his car,of course his bravery too but let's see this bravery at Ferrari for example,I am sure he would not be able to win Championships with the actual Ferrari.

To be fair aston martin hired engineers from Red Bull and we are seeing the difference that makes for a car, I am not saying "this" engineer would bring in the same results but we can definitely see that he is doing as well as hoped for and that's why it is going to be a tough one for Ferrari. Considering Red Bull is already dominating and Ferrari already having terrible results, I would guess that the new engineer thing doesn't really seem like a good way forward for them.

Red Bull could keep getting better but at what cost, the sport is getting boring again just like when Mercedes dominated it, I did not had that much fun watching Hamilton win over and over again, made it look like he was the best driver ever, when the reality was that they just had a better car than everyone else. We need closer cars, not the other way around.

At some point RedBull domination will end no matter what. Personally I don't think Verstappen will get his 4th championship next year because F1 is already mega boring with only a few races that sparked some adrenaline into viewers. Also , Aston Martin , McLaren and especially Ferrari will put up a fight next year against RedBull and if the rumors are true , there will be an "exchange" of engineers between RedBull and Ferrari as both teams are hunting some engineers from the other team so that should be nice to watch how it will develop.

Revenge or not , Ferrari deserves to be on top once again and I hope RedBull won't have a chance to dominate for a long period of time , same as Mercedes because in the last 13 years , we only had 2 winning cars : Redbull and Mercedes so I think it's time to move on.

@retreat I don’t think that he can carry any secret over but he can suggest more improvements but currently I feel that it’s almost perfect for Redbull and thus I hope that they don’t break something that isn’t broken. Furthermore instead of revenge Ferrari needs to work on fixing their issue’s but if they indeed manage to poach rival engineers and those engineers end up fixing their issues then it’ll be a really sweet revenge.

Red Bull is desperate to dominate, huh? even they were willing to intervene in the agreement that should be done by Mercedes. this may be a fairly important agreement in the future for Red Bull in dominating the race.
And I don't think it would be surprising if Ferrari would be able to get Red Bull engineers to be able to fix some of their problems, like revenge, or would they not? let's see how Ferrari responds to this.

Yeah, Idk why they don't just go in the southern hemisphere of the globe during the European summer.

It should not be hot in Brazil for example

F1 today announced calendar for 2024 season:

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1676584214559444993
24 races, return of China for the first time since 2019 and races in Bahrain and Saudia Arabia will be held on Saturday because of Ramadan. Considering that we have 24 races - most ever, it's a bit strange that we have two 1 month breaks - as usual, summer break between Belgium and Netherlands and then between Singapore and USA. Potentially it can be another month break if Chinese GP will be canceled because of Covid again. Waiting whole month for race is just too long.

Red Bull is about to sign a deal with a really good Ferrari engineer. Mercedes was going to sign him instead but Red Bull intervened the deal swiftly after hearing about it. This means that he will bring some important data of Ferrari to Red Bull also. This can carry Red Bull to a more advantageous situation as they would have more knowledge about what they can do to get ahead of Ferrari more.

I don't know how stronger Red Bull will get really. They are already very solid and far ahead of Mercedes in the standings now. This is even Red Bull's limited upgraded version I mean. If they didn't get any punishment for last season then I can't imagine how much stronger they would have been.

So... Ferrari really saw a huge improvement in the performance of their car driven by Leclerc this past weekend, and I believe a lot of that is due to the upgrade they carried out with the new floor and front wing. But, Leclerc has already said that his car still has a weakness in straight line speed, which could possibly expose the team at the British GP at Silverstone.

From what I've been reading, this new Ferrari design was thought not only to increase the downforce but also to make the SF-23 more "soft" (I don't know how to explain it/what term to use).

Anyway... Initially it seems to me that the update gave the impression of having worked as expected, as Leclerc easily won the second position on Friday, half a tenth of pole Max Verstappen, while Carlos Sainz shone on Sunday, but I think Leclerc will need to remain cautious for the British GP, held at a high-downforce circuit like Silverstone, and could be a real test of the evolution of the Italian team.

The only solution is to use higher Kerbs for Formula 1 and remove the kerbs for MOTO GP.

But they are lazy and they don't want to do it, it is not so high expense for them.

I always dont know what to think about Perez comes back, because if you think about how dominant his car is, make not so worth that comeback. I mean yes he is a good driver, but i think most of the field with that car can make de same.

Sainz its not being lucky, the bad pitstop and after the sanction.

I agree that this is one of the best tracks for spectators. Because it is much more available for overtakes compared to many other tracks in the calendar. I still don't remember drivers having a this big problem in 2022 Austrian GP though. As far as I know there is no change in any area of the track so I wonder what the reason behind is.

Hamilton was the most unsatisfied driver with the track limits during the race. He indicated that quite many times.    This race didn't end well for him also after dropping behind Russell according to the final official results.

I think the best drivers of this race were Perez, Sainz and Norris. Especially Perez's rise was really worth watching.