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Quote from: Distraction on June 26, 2023, 05:58:46 AM

Austria track is normally a quite short one normally but rain can extend lap times quite much for certain. But not even heavy rain can be enough to stop Verstappen from winning this race that easy of course. In the past we were talking about Hamilton's being a wonderful driver under rain.

But now after entering this new era in the sport Verstappen has started to put on a great show thanks to having the fastest car on the grid also. I would love to see Hamilton getting faster in time and reaching the level to be able to compete with Verstappen again. But I guess we will still need to wait for that to happen for a long time.

Verstappen's on a winning streak this year, mastering even wet tracks. Contrastingly, Hamilton's reign seems to falter, especially when the clouds burst. Is age creeping in on Hamilton's prowess? He's a driving ace, no doubt, but racing with Verstappen could be challenging. With Perez's slip-ups, Verstappen's on a roll. Anticipating a shake-up this season? Looks unlikely. The big question now: Can Mercedes gear up to Red Bull's speed in the next round?

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Ferrari really has a big potential to get way stronger than this. Just imagine it has reached at least the level it had at the beginning of the previous season. Leclerc was able to fight back against Verstappen in a solid way. But for now Ferrari is dealing with some important issues and this even pushed it behind Mercedes and Aston Martin both. Let's say Ferrari managed to get ahead of both of these teams and even reached Red Bull's level. Then I will still not be confident about anything for Ferrari.

Because this time we will need to see consistency with decent strategies in races. Ferrari was really great in Canada about that but most of the races so far was still a disaster about strategies. Hence I think Ferrari's job is extra difficult compared to Mercedes and Aston Martin.

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Quote from: Distraction on June 26, 2023, 05:58:46 AM

Austria track is normally a quite short one normally but rain can extend lap times quite much for certain. But not even heavy rain can be enough to stop Verstappen from winning this race that easy of course. In the past we were talking about Hamilton's being a wonderful driver under rain.

But now after entering this new era in the sport Verstappen has started to put on a great show thanks to having the fastest car on the grid also. I would love to see Hamilton getting faster in time and reaching the level to be able to compete with Verstappen again. But I guess we will still need to wait for that to happen for a long time.

I am afraid that won't happen.The reason being a simple one,the age difference,no matter how great of a driver Hamilton maybe his time has passed now and I doubt if he can win another Championship even when he will have a Mercedes able to compare with Redbull,I don't see any great personal performance from him with Mercedes and if he is the 7 times World Champion he should surely do a great performance,I am not saying winning the race but to make some nice overtaking that his experience can do.

Having said that I think this season is already over as Perez is the most mediocre driver on the grid for me having the same car as Verstappen and struggling to at least be second,he is far from being second so Verstappen is already Champion this year and we should wait next season to see if any team is able to match Redbull pace,for this season we can already forget about such happenings.

@swogerino I felt that Hamilton could have retired at his peak as the most successful driver but instead he decides to stay back and continued losing his title one that he easily use to win few year’s ago. Furthermore unless Mercedes can fix their issues overnight which we all know won’t happen I doubt that he’ll win and it’s such a shame that after such a legendary career he’s in such a low spot.

That is exactly what I meant as it is a shame for him to continue with Mercedes and if the possibility opens for him at Ferrari I would take the opportunity as I am sure Ferrari has more chances of bringing a good car back for the next season than Mercedes does,at Ferrari they either make it or break it while at Mercedes they bring upgrades and fine tune the car to a certain level but not at the level of consistently winning races while Ferrari did so in the beginning of last season where they won some races.He should definitely move out of Mercedes as soon as the possibility unfolds.

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Quote from: Distraction on June 26, 2023, 05:58:46 AM

Austria track is normally a quite short one normally but rain can extend lap times quite much for certain. But not even heavy rain can be enough to stop Verstappen from winning this race that easy of course. In the past we were talking about Hamilton's being a wonderful driver under rain.

But now after entering this new era in the sport Verstappen has started to put on a great show thanks to having the fastest car on the grid also. I would love to see Hamilton getting faster in time and reaching the level to be able to compete with Verstappen again. But I guess we will still need to wait for that to happen for a long time.

I am afraid that won't happen.The reason being a simple one,the age difference,no matter how great of a driver Hamilton maybe his time has passed now and I doubt if he can win another Championship even when he will have a Mercedes able to compare with Redbull,I don't see any great personal performance from him with Mercedes and if he is the 7 times World Champion he should surely do a great performance,I am not saying winning the race but to make some nice overtaking that his experience can do.

Having said that I think this season is already over as Perez is the most mediocre driver on the grid for me having the same car as Verstappen and struggling to at least be second,he is far from being second so Verstappen is already Champion this year and we should wait next season to see if any team is able to match Redbull pace,for this season we can already forget about such happenings.

@swogerino I felt that Hamilton could have retired at his peak as the most successful driver but instead he decides to stay back and continued losing his title one that he easily use to win few year’s ago. Furthermore unless Mercedes can fix their issues overnight which we all know won’t happen I doubt that he’ll win and it’s such a shame that after such a legendary career he’s in such a low spot.

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Quote from: Distraction on June 26, 2023, 05:58:46 AM

Austria track is normally a quite short one normally but rain can extend lap times quite much for certain. But not even heavy rain can be enough to stop Verstappen from winning this race that easy of course. In the past we were talking about Hamilton's being a wonderful driver under rain.

But now after entering this new era in the sport Verstappen has started to put on a great show thanks to having the fastest car on the grid also. I would love to see Hamilton getting faster in time and reaching the level to be able to compete with Verstappen again. But I guess we will still need to wait for that to happen for a long time.

It's actually a very very simple track as well, anyone who has played even a bit of F1 would know that it's the simplest of tracks and there are very very few places where you could make an obvious mistake. Which means that car difference and driver talent difference matters a lot here, unless something unexpected happens, then we are going to get the best cars and drivers win here.

Perez had a few bad race streak so far, I am expecting him to finish that with this race, he may end up second finally like he suppose to. I think it's obvious that Red Bull is eyeing other drivers for that second spot, and there are some good racers, Perez needs to have a podium at least, there is no other option. Obviously this is only valid if all goes as expected.

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Quote from: Distraction on June 26, 2023, 05:58:46 AM

Austria track is normally a quite short one normally but rain can extend lap times quite much for certain. But not even heavy rain can be enough to stop Verstappen from winning this race that easy of course. In the past we were talking about Hamilton's being a wonderful driver under rain.

But now after entering this new era in the sport Verstappen has started to put on a great show thanks to having the fastest car on the grid also. I would love to see Hamilton getting faster in time and reaching the level to be able to compete with Verstappen again. But I guess we will still need to wait for that to happen for a long time.

I am afraid that won't happen.The reason being a simple one,the age difference,no matter how great of a driver Hamilton maybe his time has passed now and I doubt if he can win another Championship even when he will have a Mercedes able to compare with Redbull,I don't see any great personal performance from him with Mercedes and if he is the 7 times World Champion he should surely do a great performance,I am not saying winning the race but to make some nice overtaking that his experience can do.

Having said that I think this season is already over as Perez is the most mediocre driver on the grid for me having the same car as Verstappen and struggling to at least be second,he is far from being second so Verstappen is already Champion this year and we should wait next season to see if any team is able to match Redbull pace,for this season we can already forget about such happenings.

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Quote from: Distraction on June 26, 2023, 05:58:46 AM

Austria track is normally a quite short one normally but rain can extend lap times quite much for certain. But not even heavy rain can be enough to stop Verstappen from winning this race that easy of course. In the past we were talking about Hamilton's being a wonderful driver under rain.

I think it's a bit too early to look at weather forecast. There is plenty of time left, so, things still can change. But yeah, would be interesting to see rain, can't remember when we had wet race in Austria.
BTW, don't forget that we Sprint race this week.

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Quote from: Distraction on June 26, 2023, 05:58:46 AM

Austria track is normally a quite short one normally but rain can extend lap times quite much for certain. But not even heavy rain can be enough to stop Verstappen from winning this race that easy of course. In the past we were talking about Hamilton's being a wonderful driver under rain.

But now after entering this new era in the sport Verstappen has started to put on a great show thanks to having the fastest car on the grid also. I would love to see Hamilton getting faster in time and reaching the level to be able to compete with Verstappen again. But I guess we will still need to wait for that to happen for a long time.

Ferraris can be assertive there because their one-lap qualifying is good and they won't be dealing with things like strategy - pitstop, so we can see 2 Ferraris on the podium. But still favorite are redbulls. Rain is expected over the weekend. In a scenario where the whole weekend will be rainy, we see surprises. Aston martin was going predominantly with Alonso, but in the last few races they started to look at Alonso's hand completely. Stroll played trash even in his own house. I have a feeling that Alonso is going to have a bad race in this race. 4-5 or 5-6 this race would be a good grade for them. My guess is if it's a rainless weekend give - per - lec we'll see the first three. But if it's a rainy weekend, we'll see someone other than the big 4 teams in the top 3. Gasly is my candidate for this. I hope we have a fun race.

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Austria track is normally a quite short one normally but rain can extend lap times quite much for certain. But not even heavy rain can be enough to stop Verstappen from winning this race that easy of course. In the past we were talking about Hamilton's being a wonderful driver under rain.

But now after entering this new era in the sport Verstappen has started to put on a great show thanks to having the fastest car on the grid also. I would love to see Hamilton getting faster in time and reaching the level to be able to compete with Verstappen again. But I guess we will still need to wait for that to happen for a long time.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on June 26, 2023, 04:36:46 AM

The Austrian Grand Prix can be quite chaotic considering the weather predictions right now. Because a downpour is expected for the whole weekend according to weather report. Of course we are still at the beginning of the week and weather can change until then. It was the case for the Canadian Grand Prix as you have seen.

But it would be more lovely to watch this race under rain. It would be more exciting generally even if Verstappen dominates the race anyway.

Since Verstappen domination started it has had no difference than the times Hamilton was in the same situation. Rain at least makes races more interesting mostly to make them more entertaining as well.

In here the rain would make it much more interesting the race as we have not big straights and just few corners in a lap like we had in Canada and the rain even if it was there would not have changed things that much dramatically anyway.This is a completely different track and the rain will make sure that very few cars to finish the race as the rain will make drivers want to take out more from their car than usual because they will think,now it is my chance to shine and they will push to the limit which would make this race enjoyable to watch.There is no problem who wins as long as we see a beautiful race it is no problem for me if Verstappen wins again but honestly that Perez guy should step in and show some performance after all he has the same car as Verstappen.

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The Austrian Grand Prix can be quite chaotic considering the weather predictions right now. Because a downpour is expected for the whole weekend according to weather report. Of course we are still at the beginning of the week and weather can change until then. It was the case for the Canadian Grand Prix as you have seen.

But it would be more lovely to watch this race under rain. It would be more exciting generally even if Verstappen dominates the race anyway.

Since Verstappen domination started it has had no difference than the times Hamilton was in the same situation. Rain at least makes races more interesting mostly to make them more entertaining as well.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on June 25, 2023, 06:41:03 PM

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Red Bull are really great at fast pit stops. They are currently the best team at doing it indeed and this is helping them have more comfortable races as well. I assume this wouldn't change in next Austrian GP either. Actually if I'm not mistaken one of Verstappen's pits was a little problematic in the Canada GP but this isn't an incident that is seen often at Red Bull.

I will be expecting a Verstappen domination but I'm not very sure about a team domination for Red Bull. Perez's recent performances haven't been impressive at all. Who knows what he can do here.

RBR had a little trouble at the Canadian GP, even compared to the previous race, RBR's performance was not much better than Aston Martin which seemed to have improved. From this we can see that the RBR doesn't always race smoothly, they even experience the same problems with their tires and fuel system. Not to mention the problem with Perez's performance which was quite unsatisfactory. So for the Austrian GP race it's true that as you said, it seems that the RBR team will have a little trouble dominating the next race.

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Quote from: alegotardo on June 24, 2023, 07:21:26 PM

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We are getting close to entering another race week in Formula 1. Austria track is one of the shortest tracks among the ones in the calendar. Therefore the number of laps would be quite high and I guess there would be a strategy of two pit stops for most of the teams. This would be another race that hard tyres would be preferred quite much.

Speaking of the pitstop, this is perhaps good for the RedBull team, in the last GP Sergio Pérez and Max Verstappen were the fastest of the day.

Pérez's pit stop was fastest at 2.23 seconds, just one-and-a-half tenths slower than the 2023 record set at the Spanish Grand Prix, where Red Bull changed Pérez's four tires in just 2.07 seconds.

In any case, the Austrian team opened up an advantage in the dispute for the "DHL Fastest Pitstop Award" (DHL Fastest Pit Stop award), since Ferrari, the 2nd place, did not do so well at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve. The team of Verstappen and Pérez was 43 points ahead of their Maranello rivals. The difference between the two teams after eight races is 73 points. Alpine is in 3rd place, 132 points behind Red Bull.

How much will this influence the next Austrian GP?

Red Bull are really great at fast pit stops. They are currently the best team at doing it indeed and this is helping them have more comfortable races as well. I assume this wouldn't change in next Austrian GP either. Actually if I'm not mistaken one of Verstappen's pits was a little problematic in the Canada GP but this isn't an incident that is seen often at Red Bull.

I will be expecting a Verstappen domination but I'm not very sure about a team domination for Red Bull. Perez's recent performances haven't been impressive at all. Who knows what he can do here.

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Quote from: swogerino on June 25, 2023, 07:36:40 AM

I don't know of any other fan of MotoGP that does not like this track but you must be a unique case in any case Grin

.Bezzecchi I have always liked him as in any race he has won so far he has done so by starting behind most of the times and doing great lap times to win and that is why I have loved when he has won a race.

Marco Bezzecchi is starting to show extraordinary talent on the Ducati Gp22 motorbike and I am sure that the Ducati factory will provide full factory spec motorbikes in the coming season because the higher ups at Ducati have seen how Marco Bezzecchi brought a Ducati motorbike with last year's spec to compete at the front with the factory spec motorbikes this season. He has shown something really extraordinary so far in MotoGP.

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Bagnaia should stop doing errors otherwise he will be in a very dangerous position if Bezzechi keeps winning in the times he is out,of course Bezzechi has not been that consistent either but at least the Championship is wide open because of him.They are both 1 second behind each other at top 2 so it means that these are the best riders as they are riding extremely well even in the "university of MotoGP".

Apart from having to stop making mistakes, Bagnaia is also expected to be consistent to be on the podium in order to maintain the points and distance of the points he currently has. Because Marco Bezzecchi and Jorge Martin can put pressure and unexpected surprises on Bagnaia this season as seen in Germany and also at the Assen Sprint Race yesterday. So the Ducati team itself really hopes that Bagnaia will continue to be consistent in every race this season.

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Another easy 1-2 for Ducati.

Bagnaia now has almost 2 gp as advantage in point at this point of the season it is a huge gap with the second.

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Exactly.It looks like the Championship season of MotoGP will be disputed between Bagnaia and Bezzechi,nevertheless the sprint race was a good one and I think we will see a great race tomorrow as they call it the "university of MotoGP" this track which means is the most technical track of all the season.

I always watch this race even though I mostly watch F1 compared to MotoGP but I think thanks to the bonuses I get from the casino I play at I will be having quite some money to try some different bets on this track,am going for the super high odds as I know most riders will be out of this track,at least this is my memory in many races here.

Call me crazy but I don't like this track.

Bagnaia could have at least 70 more points at this time but he crashed so many times when he was on top 2, what a shame Grin

I don't know of any other fan of MotoGP that does not like this track but you must be a unique case in any case Grin

.Bezzecchi I have always liked him as in any race he has won so far he has done so by starting behind most of the times and doing great lap times to win and that is why I have loved when he has won a race.

Bagnaia should stop doing errors otherwise he will be in a very dangerous position if Bezzechi keeps winning in the times he is out,of course Bezzechi has not been that consistent either but at least the Championship is wide open because of him.They are both 1 second behind each other at top 2 so it means that these are the best riders as they are riding extremely well even in the "university of MotoGP".

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Quote from: swogerino on June 24, 2023, 03:57:40 PM

Exactly.It looks like the Championship season of MotoGP will be disputed between Bagnaia and Bezzechi,nevertheless the sprint race was a good one and I think we will see a great race tomorrow as they call it the "university of MotoGP" this track which means is the most technical track of all the season.

Soon the race for the MotoGP class will start because the Moto2 class has just finished with quite fierce competition. Today's race for MotoGp will also be very tough even though Marquez has withdrawn from today's race which may be due to the bruises or pain he suffered in Germany last week but the Ducati riders are likely to remain at the forefront. And if there is Fabio Quartararo who is going to disturb the front row, I think it is a surprise for Yamaha who are generally very good at Assen.

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I always watch this race even though I mostly watch F1 compared to MotoGP but I think thanks to the bonuses I get from the casino I play at I will be having quite some money to try some different bets on this track,am going for the super high odds as I know most riders will be out of this track,at least this is my memory in many races here.

If you want to bet on who will win, I think placing a bet on Marco Bezzecchi is more appropriate in my opinion because the Ducati Gp23 ridden by Bagnaia this season seems to have a bit more difficulty at the Assen track than the Ducati Gp22 ridden by Marco Bezzecchi, so it won't go wrong if you place a bet on Marco Bezzecchi although in general you are free to place your bet on any rider today.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on June 24, 2023, 06:07:32 PM

We are getting close to entering another race week in Formula 1. Austria track is one of the shortest tracks among the ones in the calendar. Therefore the number of laps would be quite high and I guess there would be a strategy of two pit stops for most of the teams. This would be another race that hard tyres would be preferred quite much.

Speaking of the pitstop, this is perhaps good for the RedBull team, in the last GP Sergio Pérez and Max Verstappen were the fastest of the day.

Pérez's pit stop was fastest at 2.23 seconds, just one-and-a-half tenths slower than the 2023 record set at the Spanish Grand Prix, where Red Bull changed Pérez's four tires in just 2.07 seconds.

In any case, the Austrian team opened up an advantage in the dispute for the "DHL Fastest Pitstop Award" (DHL Fastest Pit Stop award), since Ferrari, the 2nd place, did not do so well at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve. The team of Verstappen and Pérez was 43 points ahead of their Maranello rivals. The difference between the two teams after eight races is 73 points. Alpine is in 3rd place, 132 points behind Red Bull.

How much will this influence the next Austrian GP?

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We are getting close to entering another race week in Formula 1. Austria track is one of the shortest tracks among the ones in the calendar. Therefore the number of laps would be quite high and I guess there would be a strategy of two pit stops for most of the teams. This would be another race that hard tyres would be preferred quite much.

Here in this race I will be expecting a very big dominance by Verstappen. This is Red Bull's home Grand Prix so Verstappen would bring the win home by a dominant performance. There is no Leclerc who can compete with him and win the race now as he did in the previous season.

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Quote from: swogerino on June 24, 2023, 03:57:40 PM

Exactly.It looks like the Championship season of MotoGP will be disputed between Bagnaia and Bezzechi,nevertheless the sprint race was a good one and I think we will see a great race tomorrow as they call it the "university of MotoGP" this track which means is the most technical track of all the season.

I always watch this race even though I mostly watch F1 compared to MotoGP but I think thanks to the bonuses I get from the casino I play at I will be having quite some money to try some different bets on this track,am going for the super high odds as I know most riders will be out of this track,at least this is my memory in many races here.

Call me crazy but I don't like this track.

Bagnaia could have at least 70 more points at this time but he crashed so many times when he was on top 2, what a shame Grin

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