Has the Haas performance also changed radically?
They will use the new empowered engine from Ferrari so they will have a big boost for sure.
For the rest it is hard to say right now even looking at the car, the secrets if the have, are hidden.
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February 02, 2023, 06:19:16 PM
Has the Haas performance also changed radically?
They will use the new empowered engine from Ferrari so they will have a big boost for sure.
For the rest it is hard to say right now even looking at the car, the secrets if the have, are hidden.
February 02, 2023, 03:35:33 PM
Has the Haas performance also changed radically?
I'm also keen on the numbers this beauty is posting currently. It would be a shame if the change is only on its aesthetics and the performance is left behind, but I doubt it. Most constructors will surely crank up the numbers that their machine can produce that still meets the regulation. Just by looking at the sleek body of this car, you can tell that Haas has somewhat touched the aerodynamic side of things and not just changed its color due to its new primary sponsor. Hopefully we can get a sneak peek of its performance during testing, which is a good 3 weeks from now (Feb 23 - 25)
February 02, 2023, 09:31:28 AM
Two days ago I watched the official WSBK test in Portimao Portugal where on the first day @michaelrinaldi21 became the fastest with a record time of 1:39.639 seconds followed by Jonathan Rea and Alvaro Bautista respectively in second and third place. Also on that first day @remygardner also became the fastest rookie, why do I say rookie. Because last season he was in MotoGP, but for this season he became a rookie in WSBK.
On the second day of the test, Alvaro Bautista recorded a more extreme time than the first day where he managed to record a time of 1:39.035 seconds and that time became the record for the fastest lap time for the circuit. As for rookies like @remygardner, he is also the fastest among the other rookies, so he must also be called extraordinary on the second day. During the two days of testing at Portimao, it seemed that Ducati had more control over the circuit so that in the two days of testing, the fastest Ducati was always held by different riders.
Reference source: infoworldsbk
On the second day of the test, Alvaro Bautista recorded a more extreme time than the first day where he managed to record a time of 1:39.035 seconds and that time became the record for the fastest lap time for the circuit. As for rookies like @remygardner, he is also the fastest among the other rookies, so he must also be called extraordinary on the second day. During the two days of testing at Portimao, it seemed that Ducati had more control over the circuit so that in the two days of testing, the fastest Ducati was always held by different riders.
Reference source: infoworldsbk
February 02, 2023, 06:00:44 AM
Nice looking car, I like the black and white colors with red touches.
Mick Schumacher will be McLaren's reserve driver for the new season. I wish he could join a team and compete in all races. He had a good experience last season. After racing for two seasons, he is now down to reserve driver position.
The new season starts on March 5th. We were apart a lot, we missed Formula 1.
February 02, 2023, 05:19:20 AM
1st car of the Year for Haas.
We are almost there boys.
We are almost there boys.
This VF23 was really beautiful, which is how the new body model was called. It has a very innovative design bringing black as its main color in most of the car.
In fact, the American constructor has changed the car a lot compared to last season, leaving aside that homogeneous white for a beautiful combination of black, white and red.
Of course, all this change has a meaning, as the team's colors are directly related to the new master sponsor of the team, since before the car was inspired by a Russian supplier, but whose contract was broken in 2022 with the beginning of the war in Ukraine.
Has the Haas performance also changed radically?
We can only answer the question about the Haas performance only after seeing some preliminary tests which by the way for this season will be very limited in time,as far as I know only 2-3 days in total and even after these preliminary tests I would say to be cautious as most teams do not show their true potential during such tests.
From the design perspective looks a much better design the Haas car this year but we have to see how it will behave on track,if I remember correctly Haas had some really great moments and even won a pole position for a sprint race or something along those lines,they should look to improve further as any other team.
February 01, 2023, 11:18:07 PM
Yeah that has been known for a while and talked about a few pages back, but there is still a question about it. Every single year Ferrari team comes out and says something that makes the fans go "this is the year!!" and then it turns out that they are still not that great.
I've never seen a team saying on tv "our car sucks and next year will be slower by 1-second"
And if anything, these rumors could have been invented and being spread by top rivals like Red Bull and Mercedes to play with Ferrari engineers' minds and put pressure on them.
These were not just engineers, but I am sure they are not expected to do that well neither. Red Bull for example has a lot more pressure, why? Because they are the champions back to back, and winning a third time is hard, and they are expected to do that.
I agree that Ferrari should start the 2023 season by telling their fans that they will be fighting to win every race and not that we are going to win the Championship,by saying so they mean that they will give their 100% in every race during this season and as such the fans will watch hopeful but not with high hopes as in 2022 Ferrari took the pressure to themselves by winning the first couple of races and as such claiming they are going to win the 2022 season which in the end did not end well for Ferrari and their fans.
As for the engineers and other technical staff I assume they have learned a lot from the errors of 2022 so most likely they won't be screwing up with their race strategy anymore.
@swogerino I too remember posting here quite often that the 2022 season will be the year of Ferrari because of all the updates that they’re getting, however in the end I was totally disappointed to see such poor results. Also for the new season I agree that Ferrari should not make any statements, rather they should now start winning races and let the results talk for themselves.
February 01, 2023, 10:20:11 PM
1st car of the Year for Haas.
We are almost there boys.
We are almost there boys.
This VF23 was really beautiful, which is how the new body model was called. It has a very innovative design bringing black as its main color in most of the car.
In fact, the American constructor has changed the car a lot compared to last season, leaving aside that homogeneous white for a beautiful combination of black, white and red.
Of course, all this change has a meaning, as the team's colors are directly related to the new master sponsor of the team, since before the car was inspired by a Russian supplier, but whose contract was broken in 2022 with the beginning of the war in Ukraine.
Has the Haas performance also changed radically?
February 01, 2023, 06:03:28 PM
Source: https://twitter.com/HaasF1Team/status/1620421641196179457/photo/1
1st car of the Year for Haas.
We are almost there boys.
February 01, 2023, 05:26:54 PM
In 2022, Ferrari started out proving to be very competitive, winning two of the first three races but, as the championship progressed, the problems presented by the team paved the way for Red Bull's dominance, ending in Max Verstappen's second championship and in the Taurine conquest. of the Constructors' Championship.
However, there are indications that the Maranello team should be faster in 2023 due to several factors... on Pirelli tyres, especially the front ones to reduce the excess front output, something that was seen a lot in 2022, among other details. I think we will see fewer mistakes from Ferrari in 2023.
Ferrari will present the successor to the F1-75 on February 14th, we'll see what's new.
That's exactly why I said there are no pressures on the engineers of ferrari, or anyone in the ferrari team. The main idea is that Mercedes had so many titles in a row, and Hamilton has 7 titles, one away from being the sole owner of the record, he is now sharing it. So there was this idea that he could maybe become the champion again to win, and last year we have seen them suck big time and they were terrible.However, there are indications that the Maranello team should be faster in 2023 due to several factors... on Pirelli tyres, especially the front ones to reduce the excess front output, something that was seen a lot in 2022, among other details. I think we will see fewer mistakes from Ferrari in 2023.
Ferrari will present the successor to the F1-75 on February 14th, we'll see what's new.
Last two years Red Bull has won, and its their title to lose right now, so they will want to keep it, but I am not sure if they will be able to. On the other hand, Ferrari hasn't won anything and just disappointed their own fans. Which means that they have the least pressure because nobody expects them to actually win, everyone expects them to make mistakes to cost the championship instead
.This can also serve as an advantage for Ferrari in one way.I agree that the pressure is all on Redbull first as they need to deliver again to win a third title and that is not such an easy task despite they have done it many years ago when they won 4 F1 Championships in the Vettel era,the first era of Redbull success.Then we have Mercedes as second in line for pressure as they improved themselves a lot during the last races of the last season and they even manage to win a race with Russell which now they will want to build up on that and fight for the title.Ferrari is the least worried about what will deliver and also their engineers,their focus is to improve and tune the car to perfection.
One team everyone has forgot though is McLaren,this is not because I am a fan of them but because they are the team that have started this year car development the earlier compared to all other teams so who knows what they can add to the table this season.
February 01, 2023, 05:15:03 PM
In 2022, Ferrari started out proving to be very competitive, winning two of the first three races but, as the championship progressed, the problems presented by the team paved the way for Red Bull's dominance, ending in Max Verstappen's second championship and in the Taurine conquest. of the Constructors' Championship.
However, there are indications that the Maranello team should be faster in 2023 due to several factors... on Pirelli tyres, especially the front ones to reduce the excess front output, something that was seen a lot in 2022, among other details. I think we will see fewer mistakes from Ferrari in 2023.
Ferrari will present the successor to the F1-75 on February 14th, we'll see what's new.
That's exactly why I said there are no pressures on the engineers of ferrari, or anyone in the ferrari team. The main idea is that Mercedes had so many titles in a row, and Hamilton has 7 titles, one away from being the sole owner of the record, he is now sharing it. So there was this idea that he could maybe become the champion again to win, and last year we have seen them suck big time and they were terrible.However, there are indications that the Maranello team should be faster in 2023 due to several factors... on Pirelli tyres, especially the front ones to reduce the excess front output, something that was seen a lot in 2022, among other details. I think we will see fewer mistakes from Ferrari in 2023.
Ferrari will present the successor to the F1-75 on February 14th, we'll see what's new.
Last two years Red Bull has won, and its their title to lose right now, so they will want to keep it, but I am not sure if they will be able to. On the other hand, Ferrari hasn't won anything and just disappointed their own fans. Which means that they have the least pressure because nobody expects them to actually win, everyone expects them to make mistakes to cost the championship instead
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February 01, 2023, 09:35:15 AM
I think that's been discussed in 2022 and officially this season Dorna banned that.
Quote from: https://www.crash.net/id/motogp/news/999242/1/resmi-motogp-melarang-perangkat-ride-height-depan-mulai-2023
The use of any device that changes or adjusts the height of the front ride of a motorcycle while it is moving is prohibited.
The technical director said it should only be done at the start of the race, otherwise it's called a holeshot. It looks like this will hurt Ducati a bit as they are very enthusiastic about developing ride-height technology.
Source: https://www.crash.net/id/motogp/news/999242/1/resmi-motogp-melarang-perangkat-ride-height-depan-mulai-2023
Thank you, so if I understand it correctly, it may only be used at the start from 2027 and no longer while driving. Then the devices around the rear wheel may still be used and will maybe only disappear with the completely new engine specifications.
In any case, they have been completely banned at the front for this season.
https://www.motorsport-total.com/motogp/news/die-motogp-greift-durch-ride-height-device-fuer-die-front-ab-2023-verboten-22032205
January 31, 2023, 09:54:09 PM
I think there is absolutely no pressure on Ferrari engineers considering they are basically not expected to be good anyway lol. Ferrari is known to be a team that has so much potential, so much money and then keeps making mistakes all the time to cause a loss. They had a very close chance with Vettel once, but luck would have it and they lost, and then last year wasn't that close but they had so much disappointment as well and many mistakes too.
These were not just engineers, but I am sure they are not expected to do that well neither. Red Bull for example has a lot more pressure, why? Because they are the champions back to back, and winning a third time is hard, and they are expected to do that.
These were not just engineers, but I am sure they are not expected to do that well neither. Red Bull for example has a lot more pressure, why? Because they are the champions back to back, and winning a third time is hard, and they are expected to do that.
In 2022, Ferrari started out proving to be very competitive, winning two of the first three races but, as the championship progressed, the problems presented by the team paved the way for Red Bull's dominance, ending in Max Verstappen's second championship and in the Taurine conquest. of the Constructors' Championship.
However, there are indications that the Maranello team should be faster in 2023 due to several factors... on Pirelli tyres, especially the front ones to reduce the excess front output, something that was seen a lot in 2022, among other details. I think we will see fewer mistakes from Ferrari in 2023.
Ferrari will present the successor to the F1-75 on February 14th, we'll see what's new.
January 31, 2023, 05:17:31 PM
- Ban on the rear ride height device (But aren't they already banned this year?).
I think that's been discussed in 2022 and officially this season Dorna banned that.
Quote from: https://www.crash.net/id/motogp/news/999242/1/resmi-motogp-melarang-perangkat-ride-height-depan-mulai-2023
The use of any device that changes or adjusts the height of the front ride of a motorcycle while it is moving is prohibited.
The technical director said it should only be done at the start of the race, otherwise it's called a holeshot. It looks like this will hurt Ducati a bit as they are very enthusiastic about developing ride-height technology.
Source: https://www.crash.net/id/motogp/news/999242/1/resmi-motogp-melarang-perangkat-ride-height-depan-mulai-2023
January 31, 2023, 11:06:12 AM
Yeah that has been known for a while and talked about a few pages back, but there is still a question about it. Every single year Ferrari team comes out and says something that makes the fans go "this is the year!!" and then it turns out that they are still not that great.
I've never seen a team saying on tv "our car sucks and next year will be slower by 1-second"
And if anything, these rumors could have been invented and being spread by top rivals like Red Bull and Mercedes to play with Ferrari engineers' minds and put pressure on them.
These were not just engineers, but I am sure they are not expected to do that well neither. Red Bull for example has a lot more pressure, why? Because they are the champions back to back, and winning a third time is hard, and they are expected to do that.
I agree that Ferrari should start the 2023 season by telling their fans that they will be fighting to win every race and not that we are going to win the Championship,by saying so they mean that they will give their 100% in every race during this season and as such the fans will watch hopeful but not with high hopes as in 2022 Ferrari took the pressure to themselves by winning the first couple of races and as such claiming they are going to win the 2022 season which in the end did not end well for Ferrari and their fans.
As for the engineers and other technical staff I assume they have learned a lot from the errors of 2022 so most likely they won't be screwing up with their race strategy anymore.
January 31, 2023, 10:56:17 AM
The specifications for the 2027 to 2031 seasons of MotoGP are being at a first finalised way, Dorna has presented the first drafts, which are basic stuff:
- From 2027 only "Bio Fuel" synthetic fuel.
- There will be no hybrid engines.
- Ban on the rear ride height device (But aren't they already banned this year?).
- The winglets will stay.
This sounds very reasonable to me, and the new wind tunnel rules should also reduce costs for the teams.
https://www.speedweek.com/motogp/news/203634/Technik-2027-Fluegel-bleiben-keine-Hybrid-Antriebe.html
- From 2027 only "Bio Fuel" synthetic fuel.
- There will be no hybrid engines.
- Ban on the rear ride height device (But aren't they already banned this year?).
- The winglets will stay.
This sounds very reasonable to me, and the new wind tunnel rules should also reduce costs for the teams.
https://www.speedweek.com/motogp/news/203634/Technik-2027-Fluegel-bleiben-keine-Hybrid-Antriebe.html
January 31, 2023, 10:39:42 AM
Today the Yamaha WSBK team has launched its motorbike and livery for the 2023 season with several riders for that class. And with the new sponsor attached to the Yamaha WSBK motorbike, of course, the name of the team has changed slightly from the previous one. For now his name is patayamahaprometeon, and hopefully the Yamaha team can compete even more fiercely in the 2023 season because remembering that the Ducati team with its flagship rider Alvaro Bautista is predicted to still be a serious threat to all other riders. Reference Source: worldsbk
January 30, 2023, 06:06:23 PM
^ This coming season with the recent change in team principal and prolly also the shuffling of people in the ranks and back room, yeah.. It's prolly gonna be a year of adjustments and tweaks. But for the last few years with Binotto at the helm, they were expected to win and yeah as you said they almost did with Vettel at 2018, tho it was not meant to be. They still lost due to a mix of driver errors, team errors and some technical difficulties.
Now having said that, I think there's still always gonna be some pressure just because of the name they represent. Ferrari and it deserves nothing but the best. Anything less than first place at every race weekend is gonna be meme time for us.
Now having said that, I think there's still always gonna be some pressure just because of the name they represent. Ferrari and it deserves nothing but the best. Anything less than first place at every race weekend is gonna be meme time for us.
January 30, 2023, 02:36:03 PM
Yeah that has been known for a while and talked about a few pages back, but there is still a question about it. Every single year Ferrari team comes out and says something that makes the fans go "this is the year!!" and then it turns out that they are still not that great.
I've never seen a team saying on tv "our car sucks and next year will be slower by 1-second"
And if anything, these rumors could have been invented and being spread by top rivals like Red Bull and Mercedes to play with Ferrari engineers' minds and put pressure on them.
These were not just engineers, but I am sure they are not expected to do that well neither. Red Bull for example has a lot more pressure, why? Because they are the champions back to back, and winning a third time is hard, and they are expected to do that.
January 29, 2023, 06:07:13 PM
Yeah that has been known for a while and talked about a few pages back, but there is still a question about it. Every single year Ferrari team comes out and says something that makes the fans go "this is the year!!" and then it turns out that they are still not that great.
Well, this is a common thing for all the teams, no?
I've never seen a team saying on tv "our car sucks and next year will be slower by 1-second"
That's because they don't want any added pressure on their shoulders. Imagine telling everybody and confirming the rumor that your engines did have an increase of 30 hp then ending up losing every week vs Verstappen and Red Bull... Lol.
And if anything, these rumors could have been invented and being spread by top rivals like Red Bull and Mercedes to play with Ferrari engineers' minds and put pressure on them.
January 29, 2023, 05:33:55 PM
This is it, this is the week of "new" cars.
Starting from the 31st of this month with Haas.
Keep in mind most of the cars presented are "fake" they are just placeholders to give you sponsors, the car can look very different from what we will see in the tests in 3 weeks.
Starting from the 31st of this month with Haas.
Keep in mind most of the cars presented are "fake" they are just placeholders to give you sponsors, the car can look very different from what we will see in the tests in 3 weeks.
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