Zhou Guanyu CHN Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake 1m31.610s 133
2 Max Verstappen NED Oracle Red Bull Racing 1m31.650s 47
3 Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant F1 Team 1m32.205s 130
4 Nyck de Vries NED Scuderia AlphaTauri 1m32.222s 74
5 Nico Hulkenberg GER MoneyGram Haas F1 Team 1m32.466s 68
6 Carlos Sainz ESP Scuderia Ferrari 1m32.486s 70
7 Logan Sargeant USA Williams Racing 1m32.549s 154
8 Charles Leclerc MON Scuderia Ferrari 1m32.725s 68
9 Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren F1 Team 1m33.175s 74
10 Pierre Gasly FRA BWT Alpine F1 Team 1m33.186s 59
11 Kevin Magnussen DEN MoneyGram Haas F1 Team 1m33.442s 67
12 Esteban Ocon FRA BWT Alpine F1 Team 1m33.490s 49
13 George Russell GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 1m33.654s 26
14 Sergio Perez MEX Oracle Red Bull Racing 1m33.751s 76
15 Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 1m33.954s 72
16 Lando Norris GBR McLaren F1 Team 1m35.522s 65
17 Yuki Tsunoda JPN Scuderia AlphaTauri 1m35.708s 8
Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1020800/1/f1-2023-bahrain-preseason-testing-day-2-lap-times
Timers of the day.
We are still slow, pole-position is expected to be 1.29/1.30 this year so they can push 2/3 seconds more.
Tomorrow will be the final day of tests.
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February 24, 2023, 04:08:06 PM
February 24, 2023, 02:56:32 PM
Finally being able to see the cars and the drivers, even though it is a test and we will definitely not see anything remotely close to reality, we will at least see if there is any "obvious" differences. Like for example last year Aston Martin made a huge mistake and it was obvious even from the test level that they would suck, and would be terrible. Same would go for any team that makes a huge mistake this year as well, definitely going to end up with a big difference in the end.
I feel like there is a good chance we could see at least one team and my money is on McLaren, they are going to be so much worse than everyone expects them to be and it will come as a shock to everyone. Can't say the worst team, but will be out of top 5.
I feel like there is a good chance we could see at least one team and my money is on McLaren, they are going to be so much worse than everyone expects them to be and it will come as a shock to everyone. Can't say the worst team, but will be out of top 5.
February 24, 2023, 02:28:28 PM
Verstappen seems very fast as usual. Red Bull are such a consistent team for a long time really.
However I'm wondering about what we will see from Mercedes and Ferrari in the qualifying session of the first race. Maybe they both are really hiding their maximum power. Actually Ferrari have already started to show some examples but I think they have more than this. I assume they didn't claim that they had a very quick car for nothing. Something must have really changed for this season. The most important thing for them to fix durability issues of course. I'm curious about Mercedes the most now. Because Toto seemed confident about helping Hamilton win his 8th world title.
However I'm wondering about what we will see from Mercedes and Ferrari in the qualifying session of the first race. Maybe they both are really hiding their maximum power. Actually Ferrari have already started to show some examples but I think they have more than this. I assume they didn't claim that they had a very quick car for nothing. Something must have really changed for this season. The most important thing for them to fix durability issues of course. I'm curious about Mercedes the most now. Because Toto seemed confident about helping Hamilton win his 8th world title.
February 24, 2023, 12:24:52 PM
Today watching tests I realized that's just one week remaining until start of new season. Before I was sure that there is few weeks break between tests and first race and season will begin in second part of March.
Also noticed Leclerc head shaking on straights, I thought that porpoising was just past season thing.
Ferrari has some proposing problems, while Redbull seem incredibly strong so far.
157 laps of Verstappen , it's like 3 full races in one day. As I understand, on 3rd day of testing Checo will have same opportunity to be on track whole day.Also noticed Leclerc head shaking on straights, I thought that porpoising was just past season thing.
157 laps means they have a good car without any serious technical and engineering shortcomings or problems that need tweaking. They got a stable and a consistent car. I think the odds for Verstappen to win the driver's championship will be cut a couple of notches down. Lol.
I hope to see Ricciardo to be given a chance to test the car. I think between him and Perez, Ricciardo is a tad faster and be a couple of places up from where Perez was in testing day 2. IMHO.
February 24, 2023, 07:35:22 AM
1 Carlos Sainz ESP Scuderia Ferrari 1m32.486s 70
2 Logan Sargeant USA Williams Racing 1m32.549s 84
3 Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant F1 Team 1m32.969s 64
4 Zhou Guanyu CHN Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake 1m33.170s 43
5 Kevin Magnussen DEN MoneyGram Haas F1 Team 1m33.442s 67
6 Esteban Ocon FRA BWT Alpine F1 Team 1m33.490s 49
7 Sergio Perez MEX Oracle Red Bull Racing 1m33.751s 76
8 Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 1m33.954s 72
9 Lando Norris GBR McLaren F1 Team 1m35.522s 65
10 Yuki Tsunoda JPN Scuderia AlphaTauri 1m35.708s 85
Ferrari fixed the porposing, (or was it only a stress test they did yesterday)
Redbull is the most impressive car so far, with an incredible "be consistent" on tires.
Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1020800/1/f1-2023-bahrain-preseason-testing-day-2-lap-times
Is Mercedes hiding?
2 Logan Sargeant USA Williams Racing 1m32.549s 84
3 Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant F1 Team 1m32.969s 64
4 Zhou Guanyu CHN Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake 1m33.170s 43
5 Kevin Magnussen DEN MoneyGram Haas F1 Team 1m33.442s 67
6 Esteban Ocon FRA BWT Alpine F1 Team 1m33.490s 49
7 Sergio Perez MEX Oracle Red Bull Racing 1m33.751s 76
8 Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 1m33.954s 72
9 Lando Norris GBR McLaren F1 Team 1m35.522s 65
10 Yuki Tsunoda JPN Scuderia AlphaTauri 1m35.708s 85
Ferrari fixed the porposing, (or was it only a stress test they did yesterday)
Redbull is the most impressive car so far, with an incredible "be consistent" on tires.
Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1020800/1/f1-2023-bahrain-preseason-testing-day-2-lap-times
Is Mercedes hiding?
February 23, 2023, 06:44:53 PM
Tomorrow the first round for the WSBK race will begin at the Phillip Island circuit which is located in Australia and it will open the WSBK race this season. Hopefully there will be another very exciting race there and as usual for tomorrow there will be FP1 and FP2 in the WSSP and WSBK classes. The following is an entry for the teams, riders and motorbikes they use for the 2023 season and for the schedule you can see it directly on worldsbk and also on motorsport.com
February 23, 2023, 05:34:52 PM
157 laps of Verstappen , it's like 3 full races in one day. As I understand, on 3rd day of testing Checo will have same opportunity to be on track whole day.
Also noticed Leclerc head shaking on straights, I thought that porpoising was just past season thing.
Also noticed Leclerc head shaking on straights, I thought that porpoising was just past season thing.
It is not clear yet if it is a real problem or something related to extreme tests condition.
We will see more tomorrow, but the Ferrari is very fast on straight but very bouncy for now.
They are the only team using a mid-load back wing and this is incredible, it means they have a big downforce in the car over the other teams.
Let us see if they can fix the bouncing.
February 23, 2023, 05:15:12 PM
The test results are pretty interesting to me. Especially seeing Fernando Alonso with Aston Martin at top places is really surprising. This still doesn't prove anything about the upcoming season yet of course. But at least it gives us some opinion. There is another fact about Aston Martin during the test laps as well actually. Alonso had a big problem with the car and the session had to stop if I'm not mistaken. If Aston Martin also have durability problems then there will be nowhere to escape for Alonso.
By the way Ferrari scared me by making a mistake as well. The mechanics made a mistake with the mounting of the nose of the car. I hope we don't see this kind of things during the season.
By the way Ferrari scared me by making a mistake as well. The mechanics made a mistake with the mounting of the nose of the car. I hope we don't see this kind of things during the season.
February 23, 2023, 05:06:06 PM
We are slowly starting the F1 season again. has been at a standstill for several months. But soon we will be racing again for real. Could there be teams or players that could give Verstappen competition in the fight for the world championship? I can hardly imagine that myself. And then there is also the fact that I assume that Red Bull has another great car for this season. Most questions will end up with Mercedes, they really have to close a very big gap compared to last season. And I also wonder how much sense Hamilton still has in it. He will certainly want revenge for the lost season in which he did not win a single game. How big would the jug have been on that? And will Verstappen break his own record for the total number of victories?
February 23, 2023, 04:57:33 PM
Today watching tests I realized that's just one week remaining until start of new season. Before I was sure that there is few weeks break between tests and first race and season will begin in second part of March.
Also noticed Leclerc head shaking on straights, I thought that porpoising was just past season thing.
Ferrari has some proposing problems, while Redbull seem incredibly strong so far.
157 laps of Verstappen , it's like 3 full races in one day. As I understand, on 3rd day of testing Checo will have same opportunity to be on track whole day.Also noticed Leclerc head shaking on straights, I thought that porpoising was just past season thing.
February 23, 2023, 01:08:10 PM
1 Max VERSTAPPEN - Red Bull Racing in 1:32.837 - 157 giri
2 Fernando ALONSO - Aston Martin+0.029 - 60 giri
3 Carlos SAINZ - Ferrari+0.416 - 72 giri
4 Charles LECLERC - Ferrari+0.430 - 64 giri
5 Lando NORRIS - McLaren+0.625 - 40 giri
6 Lewis HAMILTON - Mercedes+0.671- 83 giri
7 Alexander ALBON - Williams+0.834 - 74 giri
8 Guanyu ZHOU - Alfa Romeo+0.886 - 67 giri
9 George RUSSELL - Mercedes+1.337 - 69 giri
10 Logan SARGEANT - Williams+1.487 - 75 giri
11 Nico HULKENBERG - Haas F1 Team+1.587 - 51 giri
12 Valtteri BOTTAS - Alfa Romeo+1.721- 71 giri
13 Nyck DE VRIES - AlphaTauri+1.722 - 85 giri
14 Felipe DRUGOVICH - Aston Martin+1.727 - 40 giri
15 Yuki TSUNODA - AlphaTauri+1.834 - 46 giri
16 Pierre GASLY - Alpine+1.985 - 60 giri
17 Esteban OCON - Alpine+2.034 - 53 giri
18 Oscar PIASTRI - McLaren+2.051 - 52 giri
19 Kevin MAGNUSSEN - Haas F1 Team+2.250 - 57 giri
Results of the day
Source; https://sport.sky.it/formula-1/2023/02/23/f1-test-bahrain-sakhir-2023-prima-giornata
Ferrari has some proposing problems, while Redbull seem incredibly strong so far.
2 Fernando ALONSO - Aston Martin+0.029 - 60 giri
3 Carlos SAINZ - Ferrari+0.416 - 72 giri
4 Charles LECLERC - Ferrari+0.430 - 64 giri
5 Lando NORRIS - McLaren+0.625 - 40 giri
6 Lewis HAMILTON - Mercedes+0.671- 83 giri
7 Alexander ALBON - Williams+0.834 - 74 giri
8 Guanyu ZHOU - Alfa Romeo+0.886 - 67 giri
9 George RUSSELL - Mercedes+1.337 - 69 giri
10 Logan SARGEANT - Williams+1.487 - 75 giri
11 Nico HULKENBERG - Haas F1 Team+1.587 - 51 giri
12 Valtteri BOTTAS - Alfa Romeo+1.721- 71 giri
13 Nyck DE VRIES - AlphaTauri+1.722 - 85 giri
14 Felipe DRUGOVICH - Aston Martin+1.727 - 40 giri
15 Yuki TSUNODA - AlphaTauri+1.834 - 46 giri
16 Pierre GASLY - Alpine+1.985 - 60 giri
17 Esteban OCON - Alpine+2.034 - 53 giri
18 Oscar PIASTRI - McLaren+2.051 - 52 giri
19 Kevin MAGNUSSEN - Haas F1 Team+2.250 - 57 giri
Results of the day
Source; https://sport.sky.it/formula-1/2023/02/23/f1-test-bahrain-sakhir-2023-prima-giornata
Ferrari has some proposing problems, while Redbull seem incredibly strong so far.
February 23, 2023, 01:02:01 PM
Small news for F1.
With more GPs coming year after year they have now a new rule.
The salary cap is increased based on the number of races.
For every race after the 21st, team will have an extra budget of 1.2-1.8 million depending on where the extra race will be done.
With more GPs coming year after year they have now a new rule.
The salary cap is increased based on the number of races.
For every race after the 21st, team will have an extra budget of 1.2-1.8 million depending on where the extra race will be done.
Excellent change, I think it's fair that there is this "flexibility" of the value according to the number of races.
Two other "small changes" that were announced today, but which are very significant and should be listed:
- The arrival of a new wet track tire. After tests carried out by Pirelli, a new rubber will be available in F1 from the Emilia-Romagna GP. I don't know, I'm a little apprehensive about this novelty, because I remember that Pirelli's wet track tire was the target of a lot of criticism last season for having a very bad performance, could they have improved that?
- It was also announced updates and changes in several F1 tracks. Some, for example, are the circuits in Azerbaijan and Miami that will be completely resurfaced. In Saudi Arabia, some changes were also announced to improve the visibility of some curves (it will lose some of the adrenaline, but improve the safety of the pilots). They will also increase the space between the pit-stop positions in Zandvoort, in addition to a new paddock that will be built in Qatar.
Because of this I believe that we shouldn't be really against drivers not wanting to race when it's raining, we have seen how terrible cars are and how everyone crashed, no reason to put yourself in danger, don't care how back in the day drivers didn't care about rain, I care about their safety more than my pleasure of watching them. Second one is also good, make sure everything looks as clear as possible.
February 22, 2023, 05:51:21 PM
Tomorrow is the Day of the tests.
These are the official drivers of the morning and afternoon.
Source; https://www.formulapassion.it/motorsport/formula-1/test-bahrain-2023-le-line-up-dei-team-ferrari-red-bull-haas-mercedes-alpine-mclaren-williams-alfa-romeo-alphatauri
These are the official drivers of the morning and afternoon.
Source; https://www.formulapassion.it/motorsport/formula-1/test-bahrain-2023-le-line-up-dei-team-ferrari-red-bull-haas-mercedes-alpine-mclaren-williams-alfa-romeo-alphatauri
February 22, 2023, 12:46:58 PM
I have heard of some experiment with a supercomputer about which driver on the grid would be the champion this season.
According to the calculations of this supercomputer, Verstappen will win his third championship in a row. Besides it calculated the 2nd and 3rd in the standings as Hamilton and Leclerc respectively. It doesn't seem unrealistic to me honestly. Because we still can't be sure of what Ferrari can really do this season yet. They claim that they have the strongest car now but the most important thing is to have a season without problems. Otherwise it doesn't matter how fast your car is. Apart from that, Verstappen is still the clear favourite. Hamilton can also have a great season depending on how much Mercedes have developed their car.
According to the calculations of this supercomputer, Verstappen will win his third championship in a row. Besides it calculated the 2nd and 3rd in the standings as Hamilton and Leclerc respectively. It doesn't seem unrealistic to me honestly. Because we still can't be sure of what Ferrari can really do this season yet. They claim that they have the strongest car now but the most important thing is to have a season without problems. Otherwise it doesn't matter how fast your car is. Apart from that, Verstappen is still the clear favourite. Hamilton can also have a great season depending on how much Mercedes have developed their car.
If Verstappen is the favorite and Leclerc comes third, then that simulation honestly didn't factor in Ferrari's car. That thing is still a beast, and with Charles Leclerc on the driver's seat, it's not impossible for him to take the championship. While everyone is still cheering for Verstappen to take that 3rd championship on his, they should not sleep on Hamilton and Mercedes. These guys are doing a very great job on tests and are giving us short responses on what went well on these tests, which means that their car is slowly getting better but doesn't want to spoil the fun yet.
Hamilton will be eager to try to take the overall record in number of championships, but I think his time is over. I know that this guy is a beast mentally, but so is Verstappen. When I watched Hamilton giving interviews in the recent past, I felt as if something has changed. He wasn't on fire as much as he used to be. If I had to make my pick I think it comes down to the first couple of races whether Hamilton is a candidate or not. If he isn't relatively successful in the first three to four races, that could already mean the end. There have been seasons where he had great comebacks, but if he can do that again? Verstappen is also extremely aggressive and is risking accidents a few percentage points more than Hamilton. If Hamilton's car isn't dominant enough, he will be constantly exposed to those attacks.
February 22, 2023, 09:53:40 AM
If Verstappen is the favorite and Leclerc comes third, then that simulation honestly didn't factor in Ferrari's car. That thing is still a beast, and with Charles Leclerc on the driver's seat, it's not impossible for him to take the championship. While everyone is still cheering for Verstappen to take that 3rd championship on his, they should not sleep on Hamilton and Mercedes. These guys are doing a very great job on tests and are giving us short responses on what went well on these tests, which means that their car is slowly getting better but doesn't want to spoil the fun yet.
Same supercomputer also calculated the best possible lap with the best racing lines in every possible scenario with every car and then Hamilton beat it anyway and got a faster lap.It is not always correct, I am not sure how serious Ferrari will be right on the first season of a new team principle, there could be a settling down period where they will have to learn some things while on the job, and can't know before the season starts, but at the end of the day I have to agree that they have a very good car, there is no doubt about that. If they can keep the mistakes to a minimum, and have no reliability issues, I can see them doing a very good job.
February 22, 2023, 09:11:15 AM
Today the launch of the Repsol Honda team livery for MotoGP has been successful and from the livery that has been seen it seems that there are not so many changes in terms of color and also in the location of the sponsors. But apart from all that, I just hope that this year the Honda factory team can and is able to compete again with other manufacturers in the MotoGP event so that there are more different motorbikes in the front row with more lively and colorful competition. hrc_motogp
In addition, the miracing team who also use Honda motorbikes in WSBK also officially released their livery today to compete in the WSBK event this season. Hopefully they can also provide more fierce resistance this season for other manufacturers because in WSBK there are only three manufacturers that are very often seen at the front, namely Yamaha, Kawasaki and Ducati. worldsbk infoworldsbk mieracingteam
In addition, the miracing team who also use Honda motorbikes in WSBK also officially released their livery today to compete in the WSBK event this season. Hopefully they can also provide more fierce resistance this season for other manufacturers because in WSBK there are only three manufacturers that are very often seen at the front, namely Yamaha, Kawasaki and Ducati. worldsbk infoworldsbk mieracingteam
February 21, 2023, 06:54:36 PM
Small news for F1.
With more GPs coming year after year they have now a new rule.
The salary cap is increased based on the number of races.
For every race after the 21st, team will have an extra budget of 1.2-1.8 million depending on where the extra race will be done.
With more GPs coming year after year they have now a new rule.
The salary cap is increased based on the number of races.
For every race after the 21st, team will have an extra budget of 1.2-1.8 million depending on where the extra race will be done.
Excellent change, I think it's fair that there is this "flexibility" of the value according to the number of races.
Two other "small changes" that were announced today, but which are very significant and should be listed:
- The arrival of a new wet track tire. After tests carried out by Pirelli, a new rubber will be available in F1 from the Emilia-Romagna GP. I don't know, I'm a little apprehensive about this novelty, because I remember that Pirelli's wet track tire was the target of a lot of criticism last season for having a very bad performance, could they have improved that?
- It was also announced updates and changes in several F1 tracks. Some, for example, are the circuits in Azerbaijan and Miami that will be completely resurfaced. In Saudi Arabia, some changes were also announced to improve the visibility of some curves (it will lose some of the adrenaline, but improve the safety of the pilots). They will also increase the space between the pit-stop positions in Zandvoort, in addition to a new paddock that will be built in Qatar.
February 21, 2023, 05:18:13 PM
Small news for F1.
With more GPs coming year after year they have now a new rule.
The salary cap is increased based on the number of races.
For every race after the 21st, team will have an extra budget of 1.2-1.8 million depending on where the extra race will be done.
With more GPs coming year after year they have now a new rule.
The salary cap is increased based on the number of races.
For every race after the 21st, team will have an extra budget of 1.2-1.8 million depending on where the extra race will be done.
February 21, 2023, 01:28:18 PM
Mercedes already said that they are going to start behind Red Bull and Ferrari, which is a proof that it is not going to be that much of a trouble for the top. I believe that we shouldn't be really expecting much from them at the start, and I do believe that it will be hard for them to be champions this year if they start that badly. So it is once again just Red Bull and Ferrari like last year. They can hate it as much as they want but that's not going to be a big of a problem because we will end up watching it no matter who wins, because we can't just stop watching just because Red Bull wins, we watched it when Mercedes won like 8 times, its fine.
February 21, 2023, 11:59:38 AM
I have heard of some experiment with a supercomputer about which driver on the grid would be the champion this season.
According to the calculations of this supercomputer, Verstappen will win his third championship in a row. Besides it calculated the 2nd and 3rd in the standings as Hamilton and Leclerc respectively. It doesn't seem unrealistic to me honestly. Because we still can't be sure of what Ferrari can really do this season yet. They claim that they have the strongest car now but the most important thing is to have a season without problems. Otherwise it doesn't matter how fast your car is. Apart from that, Verstappen is still the clear favourite. Hamilton can also have a great season depending on how much Mercedes have developed their car.
According to the calculations of this supercomputer, Verstappen will win his third championship in a row. Besides it calculated the 2nd and 3rd in the standings as Hamilton and Leclerc respectively. It doesn't seem unrealistic to me honestly. Because we still can't be sure of what Ferrari can really do this season yet. They claim that they have the strongest car now but the most important thing is to have a season without problems. Otherwise it doesn't matter how fast your car is. Apart from that, Verstappen is still the clear favourite. Hamilton can also have a great season depending on how much Mercedes have developed their car.
If Verstappen is the favorite and Leclerc comes third, then that simulation honestly didn't factor in Ferrari's car. That thing is still a beast, and with Charles Leclerc on the driver's seat, it's not impossible for him to take the championship. While everyone is still cheering for Verstappen to take that 3rd championship on his, they should not sleep on Hamilton and Mercedes. These guys are doing a very great job on tests and are giving us short responses on what went well on these tests, which means that their car is slowly getting better but doesn't want to spoil the fun yet.
Here's the thing with F1 before the season starts. The favorites are hated because there's a really good chance that everything is gonna happen the same as last season... Again. And Ferrari almost always keeps getting all the hype. But by the time we're all at the middle of the season, the books have gotten the lines in the outrights market to a tee.
I mean sure, Ferrari's car could be fast but Red Bull's car could be fast too and they have the best driver on the grid rn with the best strategists and the best technical team.
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