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November 28, 2022, 11:16:37 AM
^ What do you mean? Binotto wasn't team principal for Ferrari until the year 2019. If he's going to step down, he should likely be back to his role back as the chief technical officer. But if you're saying that he should totally be given the sack then who should replace him? I've said this before but I'll say it again, I think it's going to be a mistake. I'm sure some of you would disagree just because, but ok.. A part of me wants to see Binotto get the sack just to see if I'm right or not. Lol. It's going to be a big loss for Ferrari, I feel like.
November 28, 2022, 08:58:57 AM
Here we go again, for Binotto it should be the last day as chief of Ferrari.
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Source: https://www.gazzetta.it/Formula-1/25-11-2022/f1-ferrari-binotto-e-finita-in-arrivo-le-dimissioni-del-team-principal.shtml
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Source: https://www.gazzetta.it/Formula-1/25-11-2022/f1-ferrari-binotto-e-finita-in-arrivo-le-dimissioni-del-team-principal.shtml
Is it already a done deal that Binotto is leaving or are these still rumours? I don't think he did a bad job (many strategic decisions were wrong but did they come from him or rather from the Ferrari strategists?), and at Ferrari it's always not enough without a world championship title.
Yes it is not enough but once you repeat this every year without a title it emphasizes even more to the Ferrari ownership so it is a confirmed decision I believe.He was the chairman of the technical department for so many years and he failed to bring a title to the Ferrari despite this year being really close.Now I believe that a new face is needed to be the director of such department and new ideas should be welcome as long as they promise of delivering results,he Binotto promised a winning car to Alonso and did not deliver,he promised the same to Vettel and did not deliver,now of course he should back down from his place and let it to be run by someone who can truly keep their promise to the drivers,a winning car,just that.
November 28, 2022, 07:59:16 AM
Here we go again, for Binotto it should be the last day as chief of Ferrari.
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Source: https://www.gazzetta.it/Formula-1/25-11-2022/f1-ferrari-binotto-e-finita-in-arrivo-le-dimissioni-del-team-principal.shtml
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Source: https://www.gazzetta.it/Formula-1/25-11-2022/f1-ferrari-binotto-e-finita-in-arrivo-le-dimissioni-del-team-principal.shtml
Is it already a done deal that Binotto is leaving or are these still rumours? I don't think he did a bad job (many strategic decisions were wrong but did they come from him or rather from the Ferrari strategists?), and at Ferrari it's always not enough without a world championship title.
November 27, 2022, 06:28:56 PM
We will have to be patient for a few more months before the new season of F1 starts again. It was a fun season, but also very boring because Max actually won everything easily. It is also unprecedented how many matches he has won. No one is going to do that anytime soon. Red Bull seems to me to be the top favorite for the coming season, but it will be more exciting than last season. But that cannot be otherwise, of course. What can we expect from Mercedes and Hamilton? I wonder if they can bring their car up for good this time. That was good in the last race, but it took a long time.
November 26, 2022, 05:26:18 PM
Small news, they halved the preseasonal test on the track 
for F1
We will have only 3 days and it will be in Sakhir, from 23rd to 25th of February
for F1We will have only 3 days and it will be in Sakhir, from 23rd to 25th of February
November 25, 2022, 08:42:02 AM
I don't think that Binotto has been the main problem at Ferrari but it is their choice in the end. Because I believe the main problem has been related to the crew instead. The pit crew have made so many mistakes so far and Ferrari definitely need to make changes there. Because of unforgettable mistakes, Leclerc and Sainz both have been affected in a really bad way. Of course this isn't the only reason for Ferrari to become unsuccessful this season. But the crew have a big share in this.
Let's see how much the Binotto change will affect the team. This will bring about a new crew as well of course. I hope that they are doing the right thing. They can't take another bad season without having their lesson from this one.
Let's see how much the Binotto change will affect the team. This will bring about a new crew as well of course. I hope that they are doing the right thing. They can't take another bad season without having their lesson from this one.
November 25, 2022, 08:29:11 AM
Here we go again, for Binotto it should be the last day as chief of Ferrari.
Source: https://www.gazzetta.it/Formula-1/25-11-2022/f1-ferrari-binotto-e-finita-in-arrivo-le-dimissioni-del-team-principal.shtml
Source: https://www.gazzetta.it/Formula-1/25-11-2022/f1-ferrari-binotto-e-finita-in-arrivo-le-dimissioni-del-team-principal.shtml
Well he has had enough time to show a true change in Ferrari that are not winning the title since that distant year of 2007 when their last driver to win it was the legendary Kimmi Raikkonen and even at that time it was more merit of the bad clashes between Alonso and Hamilton in their first year together as team mates at McLaren that they lost it for 1 point.
The official calendar of F1 was up in F1 instagram social media and what made me impression is that we are finishing the 2023 season in the Americas with penultimate race in Las Vegas and the last race in Mexico City,a drastic change from ending it in Abu Dhabi as we usually do.
November 25, 2022, 08:11:07 AM
Here we go again, for Binotto it should be the last day as chief of Ferrari.
Source: https://www.gazzetta.it/Formula-1/25-11-2022/f1-ferrari-binotto-e-finita-in-arrivo-le-dimissioni-del-team-principal.shtml
Source: https://www.gazzetta.it/Formula-1/25-11-2022/f1-ferrari-binotto-e-finita-in-arrivo-le-dimissioni-del-team-principal.shtml
November 24, 2022, 06:02:15 PM
Because of that incident between Verstappen and Perez, Leclerc managed to finish the season ahead of Perez. This is not good for Red Bull as a result. Maybe they would rethink of continuing with Perez next season as well. Because there is a possibility that things might get worse next season. Perez seems really angry with Verstappen's attitude against him.
I can't say that Verstappen and Ricciardo also have a good history. But Ricciardo doesn't seem like he has the same ambition in the past. Maybe this time they would get along and do even better than the times they had Perez.
I can't say that Verstappen and Ricciardo also have a good history. But Ricciardo doesn't seem like he has the same ambition in the past. Maybe this time they would get along and do even better than the times they had Perez.
November 24, 2022, 05:34:15 PM
I think Ricciardo has some hope of becoming second driver there, or maybe even that is a definite plan that we just don't know about yet.
Ricciardo knew he would never have a chance of being champion alongside Verstappen, so he left the team for Renault in 2019 where he stayed for two years before switching to McLaren in 2021. While at Renault he had difficulties at first, but he managed to get by. recover, the same did not happen at McLaren. Not getting along with the car, Ricciardo had his last year of contract canceled and ended up getting worse.
I think that's why he preferred to go back to the house where he feels more confident and try to build his career there again.
I feel like he probably won't be. Let’s remember that Daniel Ricciardio is older than Perez, which means Red Bull would be looking to hire someone that would be younger, and can race with Max all his career hopefully, someone around 20-23 years old when they hire the new driver.Ricciardo knew he would never have a chance of being champion alongside Verstappen, so he left the team for Renault in 2019 where he stayed for two years before switching to McLaren in 2021. While at Renault he had difficulties at first, but he managed to get by. recover, the same did not happen at McLaren. Not getting along with the car, Ricciardo had his last year of contract canceled and ended up getting worse.
I think that's why he preferred to go back to the house where he feels more confident and try to build his career there again.
I understand Perez cannot be with Max for another 10 years, which means they need to hire someone younger. Daniel is not that person, he has that "hope" and I get that, and they wanted a reserve driver that would be good too, and that’s why they hired him, but it’s just not that easy of a situation. It cannot be just Perez leaves and Dany starts racing, that would only be good for like 1-2 seasons at best.
November 24, 2022, 06:27:54 AM
I think Ricciardo has some hope of becoming second driver there, or maybe even that is a definite plan that we just don't know about yet.
Ricciardo knew he would never have a chance of being champion alongside Verstappen, so he left the team for Renault in 2019 where he stayed for two years before switching to McLaren in 2021. While at Renault he had difficulties at first, but he managed to get by. recover, the same did not happen at McLaren. Not getting along with the car, Ricciardo had his last year of contract canceled and ended up getting worse.
I think that's why he preferred to go back to the house where he feels more confident and try to build his career there again.
Ricciardo knew he would never have a chance of being champion alongside Verstappen, so he left the team for Renault in 2019 where he stayed for two years before switching to McLaren in 2021. While at Renault he had difficulties at first, but he managed to get by. recover, the same did not happen at McLaren. Not getting along with the car, Ricciardo had his last year of contract canceled and ended up getting worse.
I think that's why he preferred to go back to the house where he feels more confident and try to build his career there again.
Apparently Verstappen doesn't want Perez as a teammate anymore, Verstappen preferred the newly hired Riccardo. Actually, I find this step by Verstappen as quite cheeky, without Perez and Masi he would in no way world champion last year, as a team manager I would consider Verstappen once again to bring down to earth reality, he still drives for RedBull and not RedBull for him.
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November 24, 2022, 02:11:07 AM
Besides a lot of money, Ducati has a lot of achievements in 2022 so make any rider interested to join, Bastianini is one of them. He will be a partner with Pecco to replace Miller. about the constructor, we are not surprised, Ducati is quite stable depending it in 3 years, They got the title 3 times in a row, so we not have to worry if next year they will be dominated again and still more progressive than other companies like Yamaha and Honda.
The joining of Bastianini to the factory Ducati next season is based on a contract from the Ducati party because Bastianini has given very good performances on the Ducati satellite motorbikes through two different independent teams. First in the Esponsorama Racing team and this year in the Gresini Racing team so that the factory Ducati began to be interested in Bastianini and immediately submitted his contract for the factory Ducati team next season because on the other hand Jack Miller himself had also expired his contract with the factory Ducati so Bastianini became the best option for factory Ducati to bring him on contract. 
November 23, 2022, 10:25:51 PM
Regarding Ducati, I think they have a lot of money so they have 8 ducati riders. Their development is also amazing, they can break the dominance of Asian manufacturers. Eight drivers are an advantage their Ducati will be easier for the constructors' champion. I think that opportunity is huge next season.
Besides a lot of money, Ducati has a lot of achievements in 2022 so make any rider interested to join, Bastianini is one of them. He will be a partner with Pecco to replace Miller. about the constructor, we are not surprised, Ducati is quite stable depending it in 3 years, They got the title 3 times in a row, so we not have to worry if next year they will be dominated again and still more progressive than other companies like Yamaha and Honda.
November 23, 2022, 08:54:26 PM
Ricciardo logic is very strange for me. He left Red Bull as he didn't wanted to be 2nd driver, as they preferred Verstappen. He also didn't wanted to reace for team which isn't very competetive, like Haas. And now he joins Red Bull just to be 3rd driver. I don't know what to think about it.
As much as I like Perez, he didn't reached his and team goal of seaon - end 2nd in driver's championship. It seems that he have more ambitions than to be back wing of Verstappen, but it's more than obvious that Red Bull won't let him to fight with Max for the title. You said very well that it's not good idea to have 2 lions in same cage. But for me it seems that sooner or later driver who have role just to help for leader, sooner or later become pissed off.
As much as I like Perez, he didn't reached his and team goal of seaon - end 2nd in driver's championship. It seems that he have more ambitions than to be back wing of Verstappen, but it's more than obvious that Red Bull won't let him to fight with Max for the title. You said very well that it's not good idea to have 2 lions in same cage. But for me it seems that sooner or later driver who have role just to help for leader, sooner or later become pissed off.
I think Ricciardo has some hope of becoming second driver there, or maybe even that is a definite plan that we just don't know about yet.
Ricciardo knew he would never have a chance of being champion alongside Verstappen, so he left the team for Renault in 2019 where he stayed for two years before switching to McLaren in 2021. While at Renault he had difficulties at first, but he managed to get by. recover, the same did not happen at McLaren. Not getting along with the car, Ricciardo had his last year of contract canceled and ended up getting worse.
I think that's why he preferred to go back to the house where he feels more confident and try to build his career there again.
November 23, 2022, 08:06:52 PM
Maybe he thinks he can beat Max.
Riccardo is a great driver, back in day he won many races on RBR, the problem is that I don't think RBR wants to have a competitive driver in a competitive car who can race against MAX.
Never put 2 lions in the same cage.
The history speaks for itself,
Rosberg-Hamilton 2016
Alonso-Hamilton 2007
Senna-Prost '90
Ricciardo logic is very strange for me. He left Red Bull as he didn't wanted to be 2nd driver, as they preferred Verstappen. He also didn't wanted to reace for team which isn't very competetive, like Haas. And now he joins Red Bull just to be 3rd driver. I don't know what to think about it.Riccardo is a great driver, back in day he won many races on RBR, the problem is that I don't think RBR wants to have a competitive driver in a competitive car who can race against MAX.
Never put 2 lions in the same cage.
The history speaks for itself,
Rosberg-Hamilton 2016
Alonso-Hamilton 2007
Senna-Prost '90
As much as I like Perez, he didn't reached his and team goal of seaon - end 2nd in driver's championship. It seems that he have more ambitions than to be back wing of Verstappen, but it's more than obvious that Red Bull won't let him to fight with Max for the title. You said very well that it's not good idea to have 2 lions in same cage. But for me it seems that sooner or later driver who have role just to help for leader, sooner or later become pissed off.
November 23, 2022, 05:50:34 PM
Maybe RIcciardo thinks that he is not dreaming anymore of getting world title and thus he may have promised Redbull that I will act as a second driver for the team when Perez leaves or is sacked as long as Verstappen is here and I will only fight for the title if Verstappen performs really badly which is highly unlikely.
I agree,the best option would have been Mercedes as once Hamilton would retire probably at the end of the next season or just a bit more because his age does not permit him anymore to have better reflexes than 20-26 years old talented drivers like Verstappen is and then Ricciardo could have tried one last time the fight for the title.
I agree,the best option would have been Mercedes as once Hamilton would retire probably at the end of the next season or just a bit more because his age does not permit him anymore to have better reflexes than 20-26 years old talented drivers like Verstappen is and then Ricciardo could have tried one last time the fight for the title.
Maybe he thinks he can beat Max.
Riccardo is a great driver, back in day he won many races on RBR, the problem is that I don't think RBR wants to have a competitive driver in a competitive car who can race against MAX.
Never put 2 lions in the same cage.
The history speaks for itself,
Rosberg-Hamilton 2016
Alonso-Hamilton 2007
Senna-Prost '90
November 23, 2022, 05:11:08 PM
Maybe RIcciardo thinks that he is not dreaming anymore of getting world title and thus he may have promised Redbull that I will act as a second driver for the team when Perez leaves or is sacked as long as Verstappen is here and I will only fight for the title if Verstappen performs really badly which is highly unlikely.
I agree,the best option would have been Mercedes as once Hamilton would retire probably at the end of the next season or just a bit more because his age does not permit him anymore to have better reflexes than 20-26 years old talented drivers like Verstappen is and then Ricciardo could have tried one last time the fight for the title.
I agree,the best option would have been Mercedes as once Hamilton would retire probably at the end of the next season or just a bit more because his age does not permit him anymore to have better reflexes than 20-26 years old talented drivers like Verstappen is and then Ricciardo could have tried one last time the fight for the title.
I agree with your point of view.
Ricciardo is already 33 years old now. Of course this isn't a hindrance for any driver to be the world champion normally. However Ricciardo has started to seem like he doesn't have the same ambition for having solid races. We rarely see him fighting really hard in a race. It has been like this at McLaren at least. He was much more ambitious and successful than this at Renault before.
Of course even in this situation there is no guarantee that he wouldn't have the same issues with Verstappen again. Maybe we would be wrong and Ricciardo might start being more competitive again after having one of the fastest cars on the grid. The time will tell us about that.
November 23, 2022, 05:07:31 PM
It has been a sad season for Russell. He showed how well he can drive in the last race, but for the rest of the season Mercedes was not in good shape with its management and car. Hamilton was also unable to prepare anything because of that and did not even win a single race. But at least they ended the season with value. If Mercedes has a reliable car next year, then they can certainly compete for the world championship. Hamilton will still remain the first driver at Mercedes, but you should not be surprised if it is mainly Russell who will compete with Verstappen for the world championship.
November 23, 2022, 05:03:43 PM
Ducati has developed a lot over the last few years and not just relied on one rider like Yamaha and Honda. The Ducati used to be very difficult to ride, but unlike Honda they have found a middle way to make the Ducati competitive for several riders. And this development has paid off, maybe if Lorenzo had been allowed to stay longer with Ducati he would have won the riders' world championship title with Ducati too. Ducati has learned that a star rider is not everything to win a world championship. The overall package is now simply better than that of the competition.
They know talented drivers, they then maintain and continue to do research to be able to get to the present and be champions. They have potential riders so they keep doing research for the bike. They developed aerodynamics and were modeled by other plants. In addition, since they collaborated with Lenovo, it seems that they have the support of technology to always research with Remote Garage. November 23, 2022, 12:07:21 PM
Daniel Riccardo is officially back at RBR as 3rd driver for the next season.
Source: https://twitter.com/redbullracing/status/1595401790169694211
Unexpected, does he aim at Perez's seat?
Source: https://twitter.com/redbullracing/status/1595401790169694211
Unexpected, does he aim at Perez's seat?
I really don't understand Ricciardo. I mean that he left Red Bull not to be the second driver there. He was having serious problems with Verstappen there as well. You must be remembering their silly accident in 2018 Azerbaijan Grand Prix too. Considering all of these things I just don't see any reason for him to return here as long as Verstappen is the main driver of the team. It is obvious that Verstappen will be permanent here for many more years. Ricciardo can take only Perez's place.
Instead he could have joined Mercedes as the third driver and it would have been more sensible for him. After Hamilton retires he would have made up a nice team with Russell there.
Maybe RIcciardo thinks that he is not dreaming anymore of getting world title and thus he may have promised Redbull that I will act as a second driver for the team when Perez leaves or is sacked as long as Verstappen is here and I will only fight for the title if Verstappen performs really badly which is highly unlikely.
I agree,the best option would have been Mercedes as once Hamilton would retire probably at the end of the next season or just a bit more because his age does not permit him anymore to have better reflexes than 20-26 years old talented drivers like Verstappen is and then Ricciardo could have tried one last time the fight for the title.
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