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Everyone has seen the MotoGP Qualifier at the Mandalika circuit today and a lot of interesting things happened today at the Mandalika Circuit which led me to make a special prediction about Quartararo who will win tomorrow's race if he doesn't crash.
What about everyone's predictions here ? is there a different prediction with me ?

^  Yeah good fun bet on Sainz.  I have 'Mr. Saturday' George Russell meself.  Lol.  I kinda regret betting on it now...  I had him at 10, he was around 17 after FP2.  But he looks promising after FP3.  Still Verstappen tho...  And Leclerc it looks like.

What's interesting at FP3 is Mick Schumacher was the fastest in the middle sector.  Some some potential there from a betting perspective with the Haas.  And Stroll at top 10.  I wonder what Vettel would've done if he didn't get sick of the rona. 

Anyway...  FP3 results!

2022 F1 Bahrain GP FP3 Results

1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m32.544s
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m32.640s
3   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m32.791s
4   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m32.935s
5   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m33.053s
6   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m33.121s
7   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m33.437s
8   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m33.733s
9   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m33.880s
10   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m33.920s
11   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m33.955s
12   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m33.971s
13   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m34.176s
14   Mick Schumacher   GER   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m34.295s
15   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m34.378s
16   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m34.628s
17   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m34.868s
18   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m34.957s
19   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m35.667s
20   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   No Time Set

I did go ahead and bet on Sainz to both be on Pole today and the winner of the race tomorrow.Maybe Redbull were also making some saving but I doubt they were saving as much as Ferrari.I don't think that today will be our answer because today is based on a single lap and any driver can make errors by trying to make the fastest lap so the true answer I think we will get tomorrow during the race in which we will see the pace of the cars for many laps but I believe a glimpse of tomorrow we can already see it today.

After a wild day of qualifying the stage is set 🙌 With a late penalty for Franco Morbidelli, this is how the riders will line up tomorrow for the first #IndonesianGP 🇮🇩 in 25 years 🔥 #MotoGP
Source: motogp

I was very surprised when I saw the Mandalika MotoGP qualifying today where a lot of riders fell, including Marquez himself, fell twice today and once yesterday.
And congrats to Fabio Quartararo who has earned the Pole Position this season after struggling in Qualification and FP, because during the race in Qatar a few weeks ago he also suffered a lot with the performance of the bike.

We'll see later if he will keep his promise, because for a helmet racer it is a very important thing to maintain and usually what they use is the world's number 1 original product, so it would be amazing if he could keep his promise and us. see who will get it later after the mandalika race is over.

I hope you also see the results of the Mandalika MotoGP qualifying today where the Yamaha Factory occupies the first position as the Pole Position for tomorrow through Quartararo and also in FP2 the Yamaha factory also dominated the 1st and 2nd place yesterday. This means that the Mandalika circuit is very suitable for the character of Yamaha and Suzuki motorcycles.


Still, Suzuki and Yamaha are still using the engine with the Inline-4 concept where Suzuki is using the Flatplane crankshaft and Yamaha is using the Crossplane crankshaft with the Inline-4 concept, so overall it's not that different even though the Suzuki engine has a bit more power than the Yamaha this season.

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Two days ago Aleix Espargaro challenged Indonesian MotoGP fans by uploading a photo on his official Instagram account and saying that he would throw the helmet he was wearing into the stands at the end of the race if his Instagram account followers could reach 1 million before Sunday and now followers Aleix Espargaro's Instagram has already reached 1 million so he had to keep his promise to throw his helmet into the stands.

It is such a weird feeling that both Magnussen and Hulkenberg will be racing at the same time. Add in nico rosberg there somewhere and it would have been so much funnier. In any case those two will not be facing too much trouble since they would probably not race for anything meaningful anyway.

This race will be once again about Mercedes vs red bull and then maybe with some hopes that Ferrari could be as good as people claim they are. If they are really that good then we have 3 teams fighting for a title and that would be awesome. Mclaren got a great sponsorship run this year, I am guessing they will put that to next year from what they learn from this year and that could really turn the tides around a lot, and I mean like really a lot.

The rumor regarding Ferrari is that they were with a huge saving on the last test, tomorrow will be the answer but I think it will be a thing between Ferrari and RBR at least for the 1st half of the season?

Expecting 3 GP with only these 2 teams.

I am going to bet on Ferrari to win this first race as it looks like they in overall performance,meaning during a lot of laps have shown the most consistency in speed.The track of Bahrain is wide enough to give the possibility for many overtakes in different parts of the track.I see also Redbull maybe is trying to hide their true power but we will have all our doubts clear tomorrow during the qualification session,there the cars will show their true faces.Mercedes right now looks out from the fight to win any race in the first part of the Championship unless they are lying really big which I doubt.

The practice sessions today were really impressive. Ferrari didn't surprise me and really had a solid performance. Leclerc and Sainz both were great in both sessions. But Verstappen was really fast. He seems to be very promising for the pole position already but let's see. Russell also was impressive to me but Hamilton is still having serious problems. The "porpoise" problem gives him a headache still. I wonder whether Mercedes will solve this problem fully or mostly at least till the great race. Otherwise, there is not a good race waiting for Hamilton in Bahrain.

Yes a really big improvement for HAAS, but they said the year before all the 2021 they are working in the 2022 car and drop the 2021 season to the trash.

Mercedes can not be the number 1 in this earlies races, but they know how to improve race by race.

In other things im extremely happy because FRANCO COLAPINTO made the POLE in his First Race at F3.
We (the argentinians) deserve a pilot in F1 again after 21 years. We cant put a lot of pilot because you need a ton of money to have a chance, but this boy maybe can be.

What an improvement for Haas from the past season.

I'm guessing the new Ferrari's engine is not so bad after all 

Martin Brundle or was it the other guy who thinks that there's no sand bagging here during practice and that the pace is real.  If so then it could be Red Bull vs Ferrari for the championships.  I'm all for it.  Sick of seeing Merc at the front row every race.

Anyway the two teams that I thougnt were gonna improve are at the bottom of the time sheet.  Lol.  Williams and Aston Martin.  And while Haas is expected to improve since they spent their resources last year for this year, I didn't expect them to improve by this much.  But it's just free practice of the first event of the season...  Remains to be seen.

2022 F1 Bahrain GP FP2 Results

1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m31.936s
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m32.023s
3   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m32.520s
4   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m32.529s
5   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m32.877s
6   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m32.951s
7   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m32.958s
8   Mick Schumacher   GER   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m33.085s
9   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m33.144s
10   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m33.183s
11   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m33.280s
12   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m33.360s
13   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m33.621s
14   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m33.789s
15   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m33.953s
16   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m33.958s
17   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m34.061s
18   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m34.166s
19   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m34.486s
20   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m34.735s

I'd also suspect (but I haven't looked at any data on this) that we might get more safety cars than normal just because these are totally new cars that haven't been fully battle-tested yet. I'm expecting some reliability issues, and maybe cars stopping on track or in awkward places.



Yep. This is important. Ferrari and Red Bull still look strongest. Hamilton is way down the order, but may not be representative of the Merc, as Russell was a bit quicker.

Yup and Ferrari was way faster but they both "aborted" their 1st lap for traffic, meanwhile Ferrari is dominating in the second hour of test but RBR is not in track yet


GPS track source, skysport https://www.sky.it

Here are the results for FP1 of the first F1 event of the season.  As you guys already know, take these results with a grain of salt and start looking into FP3 or maybe even FP2...  It was an uneventful FP1 overall except for a few car parts flying all over the place.  Lol.  So maaaybe we'll see a safety car during the race?    I'm learning Cnut. 

And be aware that everybody was using the softs except for Ferrari and RBR who were using the mediums.

2022 F1 Bahrain GP FP1 Results

1   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m34.193s
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m34.557s
3   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m34.611s
4   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m34.629s
5   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m34.742s
6   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m34.814s
7   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m34.943s
8   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m35.000s
9   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m35.028s
10   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m35.050s
11   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m35.053s
12   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m35.151s
13   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m35.644s
14   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m35.815s
15   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m35.923s
16   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m36.304s
17   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m36.402s
18   Mick Schumacher   GER   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m36.536s
19   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m36.804s
20   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen         No Time Set

And what is seen now is also very clear that the Honda manufacturer has shown an outstanding performance in the FP1 MotoGP at the Mandalika circuit.
But something very surprising also happened to the two factory Yamahas in FP2 MotoGP at the Mandalika circuit today by occupying 1st and 2nd positions.
So it's very clear that Yamaha's motorbike is also very suitable for the character of the Mandalika circuit and I'm sure Yamaha will not have any difficulties there unless there are other factors such as weather.

Two Yamaha riders dominated FP2 MotoGp Mandalika today although Quartararo was thrown outside the top 10 during the FP1 session where he used the wrong tire at that time, but as soon as FP2 progressed, he tried to use Medium - Soft tires and his Lap time was very good compared to the Hard - Medium tires in the FP1 session where he was the only one who used such a combination of tires during the FP1 session.

The flowing layout of the Pertamina Mandalika Circuit has received special attention from MotoGP racers and Brembo, as the brake supplier, provides vital data ahead of the Indonesian Grand Prix, this weekend.

Based on the information provided by Brembo, the Mandalika Circuit, which will be the venue for the Indonesian GP, ​​the second round of the 2022 MotoGP, only has a few braking points, between Turns 3 and 9.

Based on Brembo information, as reported by Speedweek, MotoGP racers use the brakes for 28 seconds in one lap at the Mandalika Circuit, which has a track length of 4,301 kilometers (km).

In percentage terms, according to Brembo's projections, the brakes are used by riders at 31 percent of the race distance, both in WSBK and the MotoGP World Championship.

What is very striking from the Brembo data is that, from Turn 3 to 9 of the Mandalika Circuit, there is only one braking point at Turn 7, in which it is only used for 1.8 seconds.

With a flowing track layout and minimal braking points, the Indonesian GP race at Mandalika will be interesting, because there is more potential for overtaking at corners.

Source: Motorsport.com / gpzone.id