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Quote from: tokeweed on March 04, 2021, 10:03:32 AM

All these cars are nice looking. Can’t wait to see what RBR looks like...

Yes, I'm waiting for Red Bull, too. They're being really secretive... so either they have some amazingly innovative new design that they don't want anyone else copying, or else they want to pretend they have

But I think we are all suspecting that once they start racing, Mercedes will pull away from the rest. Remember that the main reason Red Bull were able to close the gap in the second half of last season was that Mercedes had already stopped developing their 2020 car to start on the 2021 iteration... so Mercedes, the best developers, already had months of headstart on the other teams...

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Quote from: LTU_btc on March 04, 2021, 06:04:39 PM

Aston Martin looks more less similar like I imagined. Classic their green, it should look great on track. But how guys do you like Haas design? Nikita Mazepin won't be allowed to use Russian flag because of ban by WADA. So, they decided to paint whole car with Russian flags:

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I think it can be quite weird for Mick Schumacher to drive an F1 car with a Russian flag on it as he is German. Grin

He doesn't seem like he is unhappy about the new design according to his tweet yesterday but he could maybe not very content with it.

SOURCE: https://twitter.com/SchumacherMick/status/1367435085956407296?s=20

Well Haas claims that the design was already approved before Mazepin signed at Haas. https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/haas-claims-russian-flag-car-livery-not-a-result-of-wada-ruling/5578405/

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Very good news for MotoGP fans from Eastern Europe. There will be a Grand Prix in Hungary from the 2023 season. As far as the new built Grand Prix looks, it could turn out to be an exciting live Grand Prix. It is supposed to be located near Debrecen and will also be easily accessible for fans from Slovakia, Ukraine and Romania.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/racing/top-stories/hungarian-gp-gets-green-light-for-motogp-2023-season/articleshow/81335103.cms

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Quote from: LTU_btc on March 04, 2021, 06:04:39 PM

Aston Martin looks more less similar like I imagined. Classic their green, it should look great on track. But how guys do you like Haas design? Nikita Mazepin won't be allowed to use Russian flag because of ban by WADA. So, they decided to paint whole car with Russian flags:

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I think it can be quite weird for Mick Schumacher to drive an F1 car with a Russian flag on it as he is German. Grin

He doesn't seem like he is unhappy about the new design according to his tweet yesterday but he could maybe not very content with it.

SOURCE: https://twitter.com/SchumacherMick/status/1367435085956407296?s=20

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I like the Haas. They are keeping the similar wing of Ferrari.
If I'm not mistaken Alfa changed to a "Mercedes" similar front wing with a flat nose. So will have only Ferrari and Haas with this kind of nose now.

Ferrari also is the last car presented and it will be on the 10th of this month, not clear the reason, are they late?

Tomorrow is the turn of Williams.

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Aston Martin looks more less similar like I imagined. Classic their green, it should look great on track. But how guys do you like Haas design? Nikita Mazepin won't be allowed to use Russian flag because of ban by WADA. So, they decided to paint whole car with Russian flags:

Quote from: tokeweed on March 04, 2021, 10:03:32 AM

All these cars are nice looking. Can’t wait to see what RBR looks like...

I don't want to disappoint you, but their car will look almost same like last year, it would be difficult to spot 10 differences:
https://www.racefans.net/2021/02/23/first-pictures-red-bull-reveals-its-new-rb16b-f1-car-for-2021/

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Quote from: AakZaki on March 04, 2021, 10:10:40 AM

Even though I was a little late, I was happy with the style of Vale and Morbidelli's motorbike. It looks bright and attractive. I hope Vale is still able to compete at its old age. Another news Yamaha had the arrival of former Honda racer Cal Crutchlow. He's recently retired, and he's arrived as a test racer for Yamaha this season. Maybe this will provide good input for the development of Yamaha.
In addition, I heard about Vale thinking about retiring by looking at the results of this year's race. He will make a decision during the next summer vacation.

Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2021/03/03/at-42-years-rossi-s-desire-to-compete-stronger-than-ever/362306

That's also my opinion and think the Petronas Yamaha looks better than the factory team. And petronas makes many merchandising money with Rossi this years. And hope for good results for Petronas team.

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Quote from: swogerino on March 04, 2021, 10:09:05 AM

The designer himself posted a pic in instagram asking which from the four designs was the best and I voted for a really bright green which surely would have been awesome to be on track.Nevertheless I see they decided to go with good old ex Jaguar livery in F1 and that is great too.

Alpine for me has the best design so far from all the cars of F1 and I am saying this objectively as I am not one of their fans.

Yup me too.. and I’m not a fan of their numero uno driver either. Cheesy

For some reason Alonso puts me off. Maybe it’s his vibe or something. He seems stiff and snobby irl. Lol. I’m looking forward to watch Ocon tho.

Edit: Does anybody want to play the F1 prediction game in Superbru? Just for fun.

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Even though I was a little late, I was happy with the style of Vale and Morbidelli's motorbike. It looks bright and attractive. I hope Vale is still able to compete at its old age. Another news Yamaha had the arrival of former Honda racer Cal Crutchlow. He's recently retired, and he's arrived as a test racer for Yamaha this season. Maybe this will provide good input for the development of Yamaha.
In addition, I heard about Vale thinking about retiring by looking at the results of this year's race. He will make a decision during the next summer vacation.

Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2021/03/03/at-42-years-rossi-s-desire-to-compete-stronger-than-ever/362306

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The designer himself posted a pic in instagram asking which from the four designs was the best and I voted for a really bright green which surely would have been awesome to be on track.Nevertheless I see they decided to go with good old ex Jaguar livery in F1 and that is great too.

Alpine for me has the best design so far from all the cars of F1 and I am saying this objectively as I am not one of their fans.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 03, 2021, 02:38:08 PM

Aston Martin is out too!

Source: https://twitter.com/astonmartin/status/1367132698268082178

Remember this is the old Pink Mercedes, Racing point, Force India.

Classic British racing green! That’s sooo nice. I think it’ll hard not to root for Vettel to do well with his new team. Wink

Wishing him at 10th and up at the grid every week.

All these cars are nice looking. Can’t wait to see what RBR looks like...

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 03, 2021, 02:38:08 PM

Aston Martin is out too!

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Source: https://twitter.com/astonmartin/status/1367132698268082178

Remember this is the old Pink Mercedes, Racing point, Force India.

I never loved the pink car to be honest. The new looking is absolutely better now and I liked the green color. So far, the design I like the most is Alpine's. I can add this to the second place in my list. And the third is the new design of Haas which was revealed today. You can find it on the link below btw.

https://twitter.com/HaasF1Team/status/1367386180388593664?s=20

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Aston Martin is out too!

Source: https://twitter.com/astonmartin/status/1367132698268082178

Remember this is the old Pink Mercedes, Racing point, Force India.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on March 02, 2021, 06:51:53 PM

I more liked Mercedes silver livery than this black. But for me 2021 design looks better than 2020. Added red looks good, and green color of their sponsor looks more bright.
BTW, how do you like Aloine F1 design?:
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For me it's probably best looking car, especially because most teams haven't made significant changes. Also, it looks very similar to Manor F1 car, one of worst teams in last decade Cheesy

. It will be a bit strange to not see that yellow-black Renault car on the grid.

I think it is absolutely the best designed car in F1 right now. I loved every details of it. Fernando Alonso is really lucky that he will have a very nice-looking car like this by coming back to F1 after a long time. Grin

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I more liked Mercedes silver livery than this black. But for me 2021 design looks better than 2020. Added red looks good, and green color of their sponsor looks more bright.
BTW, how do you like Aloine F1 design?:

For me it's probably best looking car, especially because most teams haven't made significant changes. Also, it looks very similar to Manor F1 car, one of worst teams in last decade Cheesy

. It will be a bit strange to not see that yellow-black Renault car on the grid.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 02, 2021, 06:23:01 AM

Back in black, the season is started, 10 days for tests.

Source: https://twitter.com/SkySportsF1/status/1366698686265327616/photo/2

I didn't fully like the new design on the back and I think the 2020 car was better in terms of it. But anyway, it still seems nice. I must admit that I like the black color very much and I'm happy to see it again. I'm getting more hyped about the new season day by day. We already know that Mercedes will dominate again but it will still be exciting to watch. Grin

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There is another suggestion that just the design of the Ferrari car itself did not resemble Vettel himself, similar to how it was said that something similar was one of the reasons for Schumacher's failure in Mercedes at one time.

This could be a factor I suppose, although I'd say it's unlikely given the amount of time he spent at Ferrari that they never managed to get a car that suited their lead driver.
A lot depends on this coming season. We can talk endlessly about Vettel's time at Ferrari, but when we see how he performs at his new team, it should answer a lot of the open questions about just how good he really is.

@coinlocket$ - Nice images of the new Mercedes. Strange that they've only shown a front view and a side view... when it's probably the rear view that the other teams will get used to seeing during the season Cheesy

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 02, 2021, 06:23:01 AM

Back in black, the season is started, 10 days for tests.

Source: https://twitter.com/SkySportsF1/status/1366698686265327616/photo/2

I like this more then just the silver as it was before. This years the red parts looks nice. But thats just the looks, it's the speed what is the most important.

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Back in black, the season is started, 10 days for tests.

Source: https://twitter.com/SkySportsF1/status/1366698686265327616/photo/2

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 01, 2021, 07:09:23 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on March 01, 2021, 08:06:43 AM

^ Yeah I guess we’ll see. But I’d argue Vettel’s ‘deterioration’ has prolly more to do with low motivation and something psychological than lack of skill. If you guys remember he did some brilliant stuff when he was at Torro Rosso and was one of the most talented young drivers around at the time.

I think him being at a smaller team for a couple of years will do him good. There will be less pressure for results and prolly get back his love for racing.

True but if you can't keep the pressure you are can't be a top driver.
He made so many mistakes these 2 years it was embarrassing.

He maybe will find a feeling of a new peace in the new team with less pressure but if he can't beat Stroll I can see him ending his carrier in 2022.

@tokeweed while I do understand what kind of pressure you’re talking about, but don’t you think that he would have been provided all the help and guidance to deal with it, and hence I don’t believe that it was a psychological issue. @coinlocket$ I’m really keen to see him retire on a high note, though I have been critical of his errors, but I yet feel that he can salvage his reputation before he retires.

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