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I hope there is rain again this weekend in Hungaroring as it will make the race a lot more beautiful to watch.The Championship may become open again if Mercedes fail this time too.I think though that they will be driving with more caution this time if rain really hits the track.

Thats the main problem with rain racing that can make it a write off or an extreme combination of a track like monaco and heavy rain can make the race into a clown car pile up quite easily.   But I love the unexpected challenges they must overcome with an amount of rain the tires can cope with and still find grip and visibility, anything that shakes up the order and demands immediate skill to win is a welcome factor to the race.

Its real racing and theres increasingly electric cars in use so theres going to be electric car racing but do they deserve a separate field and to call it F1 I'm not sure without being the best that's exactly correct.   If its 'too perfect' in its race then it wont succeed, thats the problem electric has of being monotone but I'm sure they can keep it open enough to be exciting.   I still imagine conventional F1 to be the best overall for its challenges.

@DaveF. How much more boring is it than formula 1 hehehe?

I watched it before. It is good to see some of the former formula 1 drivers in there, however the cars do not look as nice and they are not that fast. But include it if you want.

Would anyone want to include next years Formula-E in this thread?
Yeah, I know some people think electric racing is not real racing.

Since I'm a New Yorker, I saw last years and this years race in Brooklyn. Really enjoyed it.

-Dave

A New Formula 1 GP this week.

They will race in Hungary on Hungaroring.

This race is very boring there is almost no way of overtaking.

These are 2018 results: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Grand_Prix

Pole position

1    44    United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton    Mercedes    1:17.419    1:31.242    1:35.658    1
2    77    Finland Valtteri Bottas    Mercedes    1:17.123    1:32.081    1:35.918    2
3    7    Finland Kimi Räikkönen    Ferrari    1:17.526    1:32.762    1:36.186    3
4    5    Germany Sebastian Vettel    Ferrari    1:16.666    1:28.636    1:36.210    4

Podium

1    44    United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton    Mercedes    70    1:37:16.427    1    25
2    5    Germany Sebastian Vettel    Ferrari    70    +17.123    4    18
3    7    Finland Kimi Räikkönen    Ferrari    70    +20.101    3    15

Fastest lap

Driver   Australia Daniel Ricciardo   Red Bull Racing-TAG Heuer Time   1:20.012 on lap 46

Data from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Hungarian_Grand_Prix



This should an easy race for Mercedes BUT the wheater can be rain.

We saw the most entertaining race yesterday.
I hope that we will see more races in rain till the end of the season. Max deserved the win and Bottas didn't deserve to crash but this was part of the race!

It was a awesome race to watch with allot of exciting moments and great to see who could handle there cars in these conditions. It wont happen that much we dont see Mercedes on the podium. Max was the best driver in the rain and earned his first place. 

2019 FORMULA 1 GERMAN GRAND PRIX - RACE RESULTS

1   Max Verstappen   NED   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   64 laps
2   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Scuderia Ferrari   + 7.333s
3   Daniil Kvyat   RUS   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 8.305s
4   Lance Stroll   CAN   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   + 8.966s
5   Carlos Sainz   ESP   McLaren F1 Team   + 9.583s
6   Alexander Albon   THA   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 10.052s
7   Romain Grosjean   FRA   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   + 16.838s
8   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   + 18.765s
9   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 19.667s
10   Robert Kubica   POL   ROKiT Williams Racing   + 24.987s
11   George Russell   GBR   ROKiT Williams Racing   + 26.404s
12   Kimi Raikkonen   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 42.214s*
13   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 43.849s*
RET   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   61 laps
RET   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   56 laps
RET   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Renault F1 Team   39 laps
RET   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   27 laps
RET   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Renault F1 Team   25 laps
RET   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   13 laps
RET   Sergio Perez   MEX   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   1 lap


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This was definitely the best race so far this season, rain is something that creates great race, so many tactics with so many retirements and wall hitting. Seem like this race in Germany is turning point, last year Vetter lost here and in the end lost his championship, maybe this time will be for Lewis and maybe just maybe will Max be the person to look for the championship title.

What.A.Race.

I am saying it just like McLaren did at their official page and it truly was an A race yesterday.In a track where Mercedes has dominated these last few years yesterday they were out of the picture.A big well done to Max Verstappen as it was an absolutely deserved win for him.Lewis was a bit ill during the weekend so he was not at full health during this race but justifications are not valid for Champions I think.

I reckon the only reason why the race was not boring as usual was because of the rain. Without the rain, Lewis wins and Max might fall on 3rd hehehe.

In any case, it was an outstanding race for Sebastian, good on him.

It seems reasonable but role should always be followed but in this case to be fair this should need an investigation, because the their always an exception of the rule.

Yeah, but served his penalty during pit stop. There was message that he may get another penalty because he was going too slow during safety car period. But he was slow because he had accident and and had to make pit stop. There was no reason to punish him in this case.

I saw the Grand Prix and I must say that it was one of the most exciting in recent years, until the end it was a lottery where anyone could won thanks to the rain and the endless safety cars.
It was a grand Prix where Ferrari could make a double before qualifying and where they could unbelievably win in the race with Leclerc but unfortunately, he made a mistake in a corner where five riders went out.

I don't know how Hamilton does it but besides being the strongest he is also the luckiest, every rare time something happens to him the lesser evil happens, every time he enters the safety car is in the right place.

For the rest of the race, I did not see the supremacy of anyone, at every different condition there was a driver who could do better than the others, in the end, those who made fewer mistakes and who made the last change with new intermediate tires made first and second.
Excellent Ferrari strategy, sad due to the pilot's error or it could be AGAIN the 1st Leclerc victory.

Lewis Hamilton also got a time penalty of five second for "entering the point lane on the wrong side of the bollard."
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1158870/Lewis-Hamilton-penalty-German-Grand-Prix-updates-news

It was probably craziest race since Malaysia 2009. I waited for such crazy race for so long. Verstappen - he had terrible start, one spin, but then he did everything perfect and made pit stops on the right time. Vettel - from 20th to 2nd place - brilliant driving. Kvyat - he was so lucky to switch to slick tyres on the right time. This race was not about strategy, it was literally gambling - when to make pit stop and what tyres to choose. Leclerc was doing great today, but it was too early to put slick tyres. And what a disaster for Mercedes at home GP. And Hamilton pit stop after crash probably was most chaotic pit stop I've ever seen. And I think that Gasly today lost his spot in Red Bull today - he lost to both Toro Rosso drivers and had terrible race. Wow, so many things happened today and it's shame that we won't see race in Hockeheimring next year.
EDIT Both Alfa Romeo drivers got 30 seconds time penalty and it means that Robert Kubica gets his first point for Williams this season. Wow!

1   Verstappen   1:44:31.275
2   Vettel      +7.333s   
3   Kvyat      +8.305s
4   Stroll      +8.966s   
5   Sainz      +9.583s   
6   Albon      +10.052s   
7   Räikkönen   +12.214s   
8   Giovinazzi   +13.849s   
9   Grosjean   +16.838s   
10   Magnussen   +18.765s   
11   Hamilton   +19.667s   
12   Kubica      +24.987s   
13   Russell      +26.404s   
https://www.formula1.com/en/results.html/2019/races/1010/germany/race-result.html

When rain will come technical team can adjust immediately, the problem is the visibility become poor, maybe this a game changer, hopefully  will not rain on race day.

For now it's not raining in Hockenheim according to meteonews.ch , but they are still forecasting rain for this afternoon.

http://meteonews.ch/en/Weather/G2902852/Hockenheim

If comes to this then things can be changed but more for Lewis for that matter but if in race start then thing are open for all, off course in this situation then who comes first in pit will make huge profit.

There are predictions that there will be rain in Hockenheim today.
If we see any rain I think that Hamilton will be in a bad situation, something like it happened in Monaco when he struggled to keep the 1st position in the grid with wrong tires.