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Fair penalty for Hamilton as he blocked Raikkonen's fast lap.
It would be an interesting race to see. Hamilton will start from 5th place and Vettel from 10th. I am very hyped to see what would be the strategy that both drivers would follow.

Formula1 qualifying results

1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   + 0.331s   1m03.378s   1m03.003s
2   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 0.011s   + 0.425s   + 0.259s
3   Max Verstappen   NED   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   1m03.807s   + 0.457s   + 0.436s
4   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 0.277s   + 0.485s   + 0.534s
5   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   + 0.971s   + 1.088s   + 1.069s
6   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   + 0.554s   + 0.833s   + 1.096s
7   Kimi Raikkonen   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 0.808s   + 0.678s   + 1.163s
8   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 0.643s   + 0.816s   + 1.176s
9   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   + 0.605s   + 0.610s   + 1.196s
10   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Scuderia Ferrari   + 0.533s   + 0.289s   no time
11   Romain Grosjean   FRA   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   + 0.745s   + 1.112s   
12   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Renault F1 Team   + 0.926s   + 1.138s   
13   Alexander Albon   THA   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 0.901s   + 1.287s   
14   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Renault F1 Team   + 0.840s   + 1.412s   
15   Carlos Sainz   ESP   McLaren F1 Team   + 0.646s   + 10.223s   
16   Sergio Perez   MEX   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   + 0.982s       
17   Lance Stroll   CAN   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   + 1.025s       
18   Daniil Kvyat   RUS   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 1.517s       
19   George Russell   GBR   ROKiT Williams Racing   + 2.097s       
20   Robert Kubica   POL   ROKiT Williams Racing   + 2.399s

GRID PENALTIES
Hamilton drop three places
George Russell drop three places

We have double this weekend MotoGP and Formula1

MOTOGP Qualifying results

1   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)*   1'32.017s   6/7   305k
2   Maverick Viñales   SPA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.140s   6/8   309k
3   Alex Rins   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   +0.441s   5/6   309k
4   Marc Marquez   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   +0.714s   3/7   312k
5   Joan Mir   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)*   +1.068s   3/8   309k
6   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +1.211s   3/8   314k
7   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Mission Winnow Ducati (GP19)   +1.265s   2/7   310k
8   Takaaki Nakagami   JPN   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +1.278s   7/8   310k
9   Franco Morbidelli   ITA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +1.297s   8/8   305k
10   Jack Miller   AUS   Pramac Ducati (GP19)   +1.306s   7/8   315k
11   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Mission Winnow Ducati (GP19)   +1.675s   7/7   314k
12   Pol Espargaro   SPA   Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16)   +1.745s   2/3   310k                   
13   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Pramac Ducati (GP18)*   1'33.221s   7/8   309k
14   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   1'33.466s   7/7   306k
15   Aleix Espargaro   SPA   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1'33.547s   7/7   309k
16   Karel Abraham   CZE   Reale Avintia Ducati (GP18)   1'33.583s   7/7   310k
17   Miguel Oliveira   POR   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)*   1'33.706s   3/7   306k
18   Johann Zarco   FRA   Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16)   1'33.776s   7/7   307k
19   Hafizh Syahrin   MAL   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)   1'33.869s   3/7   308k
20   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1'33.960s   3/7   305k
21   Tito Rabat   SPA   Reale Avintia Ducati (GP18)   1'34.580s   8/8   307k

Qualifying laps today in Austria and A1 ring.
Yesterday Vettel made again a mistake that made him be out of track. Let's see what will happen today.

Well every 4-5 season one comes like this one to be boring from start to finish of the season. Most interesting is battle for 4th and 5th place in constructors competition. Where several teams are into this spot. Most improvement so far I saw from McLaren, also we have Hass and Renault and from shadow Alfa, could be from time to time even and Toro Rosso. We will see how this will come to be but dont expect to see any change till new regulation comes in 2021.

Yeah, god point, there is no need to blame Mercedes that they are dominating.. Other teams like Ferrari or Red Bull should improve.
Yesterday it was another boring race, we only saw some iinteresting moments in the middle of peloton, like Norris defending his position against Ricciardo and others.
Probably it's most boring season that I saw and no wonder that fans are switching to MotoGP, IndyCar or even NASCAR.

You are right, but I have people blaming Mercedes for that.
Instead of blaming Mercedes for being the best, why not blaming Ferrari for not improving? We need better teams in the championhip not worse, but still people don't like that Mercedes is No1.

The Championship is getting boring in F1 with Mercedes dominating every single race and all the other teams are far from being a rival to Mercedes.We need more rivalry here in order for it to be more enjoyable to watch.

It is a different thing in MotoGP,there are always great overtaking moves in almost every race and it is more beautiful to watch compared to F1.

Mercedes drivers won the first and second position and with this race they have almost secured their title, as no other drivers seems keen to compete against them. This season is simply a repeat of last season where Mercedes completely dominated all the races, but with the exception of Bottas he’s been impressive this season. What do you’ll think is the main problem with other drivers is it their cars, or their technical team is simply not good enough?.

French GP race results

1   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   53 Laps
2   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 18.056s
3   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   + 18.995s
4   Max Verstappen   NED   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   + 34.905s
5   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Scuderia Ferrari   + 62.796s
6   Carlos Sainz   ESP   McLaren F1 Team   + 95.462s
7   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Renault F1 Team   '+1 Lap
8   Kimi Raikkonen   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   '+1 Lap
9   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Renault F1 Team   '+1 Lap
10   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   '+1 Lap
11   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   '+1 Lap
12   Sergio Perez   MEX   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   '+1 Lap
13   Lance Stroll   CAN   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   '+1 Lap
14   Alexander Albon   THA   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   '+1 Lap
15   Daniil Kvyat   RUS   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   '+1 Lap
16   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   '+1 Lap
17   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   '+1 Lap
18   Robert Kubica   POL   ROKiT Williams Racing   '+2 Laps
19   George Russell   GBR   ROKiT Williams Racing   +2 Laps
RET   Romain Grosjean   FRA   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team

All of the cars has their own reputation. This may not be because the car or a team has not won in a match it does not mean that the team is incompetent. It only means that they are still learning on areas where they are weak. A successful team or with good drivers does not start at the moment they join a race. This is where adjustments being made and as a driver how to manage a different car with different specs.

I have the feeling that we know already who will the world champion this season  . I don't see anyone that can really challenge Hamilton

Qualifying result for France GP

1   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 0.059s   + 0.083s   1m28.319s
2   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   1m30.550s   1m29.437s   + 0.286s
3   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   + 0.097s   + 0.262s   + 0.646s
4   Max Verstappen   NED   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   + 0.777s   + 0.662s   + 1.090s
5   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   + 0.439s   + 0.582s   + 1.099s
6   Carlos Sainz   ESP   McLaren F1 Team   + 0.523s   + 0.882s   + 1.203s
7   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Scuderia Ferrari   + 0.525s   + 0.069s   + 1.480s
8   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Renault F1 Team   + 0.404s   + 0.932s   + 1.599s
9   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   + 0.602s   + 0.984s   + 1.865s
10   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 0.630s   + 0.971s   + 5.101s
11   Alexander Albon   THA   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 0.895s   + 1.024s   
12   Kimi Raikkonen   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 0.422s   + 1.096s   
13   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Renault F1 Team   + 0.315s   + 1.107s   
14   Sergio Perez   MEX   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   + 0.414s   + 1.301s   
15   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   + 0.616s   + 2.003s   
16   Daniil Kvyat   RUS   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 1.014s       
17   Romain Grosjean   FRA   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   + 1.076s       
18   Lance Stroll   CAN   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   + 1.176s       
19   George Russell   GBR   ROKiT Williams Racing   + 2.239s       
20   Robert Kubica   POL   ROKiT Williams Racing   + 2.655s

Where are the Vettel fans now?
Should we blame Hamilton or FIA for that 7 position on the grid? 😂
Amazing performance from McLaren which both drivers made it to 5th and 6th place.

Time will tell. In any case it would be great to see all teams to be equals but this not possible. Some shown improvement but some are on thin ice of survive. What will happen remains to be seen. But would be shame to see Williams go down.

McLaren has a long way to go before they can challenge for titles, I don’t think we’ll see any title challenge from them in 2020. Ferrari will not be beating Mercedes as they’re lacking confidence and luck, I feel Mercedes shall win this race too. What Ferrari needs to do is replace their technical team and their drivers, it’s simply not working out for them.

We are all waiting for their comeback together with Williams as they are teams that have written F1 history during the years of racing.I doubt they will come back as soon as next year as I think the Renault engine will be a limiting factor.

I find it difficult why Mclaren do not build an engine of their own,they will suffer in the beginning but I am sure they will sort things out with an engine of their own in the long run.

Maybe this time, and for McClaren it this is corrent i sure they will be good in next season. Many improvement so far are good for them considering that they are among teams that are in fight for this 4th position in constructors championship Im pretty sure they will do some good job even this season. Car is stable and this is maybe biggest step for them so far.

@mich. No. That is very dangerous. For the sportsbook hehehe.


The improved results and the possibility of success in McClaren's 2018 restructure might show on 2020. That is what they are hyping according to some articles.

In any case, can Ferrari again beat Mercedes during qualifying in France?

I have never seen a sport betting company offer in race bets for F1 or MotoGp and even if there was one company offering these bets the odds would be very low because in F1 unless a Safety Car happen it is very easy to predict who is gonna win the race and who will be on the podium.The only difficult thing to predict is the fastest lap driver.