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Quote from: coinlocket$ on July 19, 2020, 04:53:14 PM

So Toto Wolff released an interview today where he said something like:

We are using the oil on for extra power like the Ferrari last year but in a different way

HAHAHA, let's see what will happen but keep in mind Fia never punished NEVER the Mercedes.

Exactly what I explained why Ferrari and FIA made a deal, Ferrari didn't want them to dig around the engine, because anything that FIA would find they would broadcast publicly so that Merc and Red bull could know on which parts and waht trick around the engine to work and find another way to use that that is in grey area again.

This obviously happened anyway.

FIA and Merc, what else to add unfortunately.

I don’t think FIA is treating a certain team better than others because this brings them only loss of revenue especially now that the only revenue they get is from streaming.If FIA tells secrets to only one team it would not make sense as F1 races would be boring to watch.In fact FIA several times after a certain team dominance has changed the rules for the better of the sport.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on July 19, 2020, 04:53:14 PM

So Toto Wolff released an interview today where he said something like:

We are using the oil on for extra power like the Ferrari last year but in a different way

HAHAHA, let's see what will happen but keep in mind Fia never punished NEVER the Mercedes.

Exactly what I explained why Ferrari and FIA made a deal, Ferrari didn't want them to dig around the engine, because anything that FIA would find they would broadcast publicly so that Merc and Red bull could know on which parts and waht trick around the engine to work and find another way to use that that is in grey area again.

This obviously happened anyway.

FIA and Merc, what else to add unfortunately.

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Quote from: AakZaki on July 20, 2020, 10:28:42 PM

Quote from: Koal-84 on July 19, 2020, 09:53:14 AM

I found a official article, and yes the time between are very short so i'm with you and i think the next race Brno or Austria.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/07/19/marc-marquez-suffers-fractured-humerus-in-jerez-crash/334185

The race was very interesting, even though there were no spectators because covid-19 was still there. I hope the old VR racer can compete, but his age is no longer supportive and his courage is reduced. But F. Quartararo won the Spanish GP yesterday turned out to be a VR student. Then About Marc as World Champion, the news he arrived in Barcelona, ??where Dr. Mir will operate with the humerus. I think restoring a minor fracture will take around six to nine weeks. If calculated with this, maybe he will appear at the Misano World Circuit Marco Simoncelli he will lose 100 points if he wins in every race.

That's correct it's very difficult for #46 but when he find his for form a podium place he is good enough. The last years Yamaha not so good that anyone can win that's only possible with good conditions but this year th bike looks competitive to the others.

For Marc i found this article, am exciting when he's back?

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/07/19/marc-marquez-suffers-fractured-humerus-in-jerez-crash/334185

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MotoGP™ Medical Director Dr Charte also offered information on Marc Marquez: “Tomorrow Dr Mir will leave for Barcelona to proceed with treatment, if there is no more news regarding the tissue, to surgically treat the humerus. That being said, we can’t say in any absolute terms if he will be at the next race or Brno or Austria. It’s not the moment, we’ll talk about it next week.”

I'm not a fan from Marc, but after #46 i say the last year the next for me are #20 Grin

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After the last races in the F1 I am wondering for how long Mattia Binotto will be in the team. The only thing Ferrari did well was a second place in the first race but after nothing. That the Ferrari's were being lapped last race was a shame.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on July 19, 2020, 09:53:14 AM

I found a official article, and yes the time between are very short so i'm with you and i think the next race Brno or Austria.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/07/19/marc-marquez-suffers-fractured-humerus-in-jerez-crash/334185

The race was very interesting, even though there were no spectators because covid-19 was still there. I hope the old VR racer can compete, but his age is no longer supportive and his courage is reduced. But F. Quartararo won the Spanish GP yesterday turned out to be a VR student. Then About Marc as World Champion, the news he arrived in Barcelona, ??where Dr. Mir will operate with the humerus. I think restoring a minor fracture will take around six to nine weeks. If calculated with this, maybe he will appear at the Misano World Circuit Marco Simoncelli he will lose 100 points if he wins in every race.

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He has the rest of his life to retire, unless he has some massive concern or reason to walk away. I always wished Senna had retired and he did have reason to do so and he raised those concerns but personalities like this cant walk away from something so focused for them, thats why its something of a danger and not unrelated to Schumacher's current predicament sadly.

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he's as good or even better than Schumacher,

Thats not really something that should be said as the cars are not the same, its a different era. Senna was probably superior to Schumacher even despite records and so on its not a linear comparison that can be made fairly.

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 20, 2020, 10:40:08 AM

So with Hamilton winning everything and prolly proving that he's as good or even better than Schumacher, you guys think he's gonna retire after this year? I feels likely...

Verstappen to Merc and Vettel back to RBR. No way one of the Toro Rosso guys or whatever they're called now move up.

I think that he is going to retire after beating Schumacher's record.
After his retire Leclerc and Max is going to get step.
Right now, both young drivers are under Hamilton's shadow.

I don't think that why he should that? Also this years the record from Schumacher are fallen with the most wins he need for this only 5?! After the next championship i mean he search a new challenger by a other team?

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 20, 2020, 10:40:08 AM

So with Hamilton winning everything and prolly proving that he's as good or even better than Schumacher, you guys think he's gonna retire after this year? I feels likely...

Verstappen to Merc and Vettel back to RBR. No way one of the Toro Rosso guys or whatever they're called now move up.

I think there's almost zero chance of him retiring after this year. This year's Mercedes car is so far ahead of the others, it's ridiculous. It's like the first year of the turbo-hybrid era all over again. Bottas is Hamilton's only competitor this year, so Hamilton looks an overwhelmingly strong favourite for a 7th title.

But remember that the regulation change for 2021 has now been put back to 2022. And development for next year will be constrained due to CV19. Next year's cars won't be too dissimilar to this year's. It looks likely that Mercedes will dominate next season as well, giving Hamilton a great shot at an 8th title (assuming he gets that 7th this year).

And when we get to 2022 and the radically new cars, if Mercedes suddenly go from being the best to being mere also-rans, as Red Bull did after 2013... maybe that will be the time for him to retire. But end of this season? I can't see that happening. Hamilton doesn't seem like the sort of person who would be content to merely equal a record.

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 20, 2020, 10:40:08 AM

So with Hamilton winning everything and prolly proving that he's as good or even better than Schumacher, you guys think he's gonna retire after this year? I feels likely...

Verstappen to Merc and Vettel back to RBR. No way one of the Toro Rosso guys or whatever they're called now move up.

I think that he is going to retire after beating Schumacher's record.
After his retire Leclerc and Max is going to get step.
Right now, both young drivers are under Hamilton's shadow.

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So with Hamilton winning everything and prolly proving that he's as good or even better than Schumacher, you guys think he's gonna retire after this year? I feels likely...

Verstappen to Merc and Vettel back to RBR. No way one of the Toro Rosso guys or whatever they're called now move up.

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Quote from: swogerino on July 20, 2020, 06:29:58 AM

Quote from: babygun on July 19, 2020, 04:40:34 PM

Ooh too bad for Marquez, his chances of winning a new title have now lowered a lot. It will depend on how many races he will miss.

Nice win of Hamilton, in my eyes top favorite of winning yet another title.

Hamilton with this win equalized the number of most victories in one track with Michael Schumacher.Schumi has 8 victories in France in Magny Cour circuit and Hamilton has 8 victories in the Hungaroring track.I think Lewis has all the time to beat this record again and to become the only driver with more than 8 victories in a single circuit in F1.

This year i think he will win equalized the next with Michael, the 7th championship but he still has some good years ahead and make new records. So he will the best driver many years ahaid, we will see. The Mercedes are also the best car the last years and also this.

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Quote from: babygun on July 19, 2020, 04:40:34 PM

Ooh too bad for Marquez, his chances of winning a new title have now lowered a lot. It will depend on how many races he will miss.

Nice win of Hamilton, in my eyes top favorite of winning yet another title.

Hamilton with this win equalized the number of most victories in one track with Michael Schumacher.Schumi has 8 victories in France in Magny Cour circuit and Hamilton has 8 victories in the Hungaroring track.I think Lewis has all the time to beat this record again and to become the only driver with more than 8 victories in a single circuit in F1.

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Quote from: boltz on July 19, 2020, 10:32:10 AM

This MOTO GP was not fun at all man ,what race did you watch ? Marc just broke his arms and need urgently a surgery to them and I do hope he will be back soon but I doubt he will be the same racer Sad

as broken arms will be painful for a very long time of his life.

In F1 , was a brilliant race from Hamilton and an awesome driving style. I found some rumors that Red Bull is sabotaging Albon in order to make place for Vettel ? Can this be true ? This was also fueled up by Albons team radio when he told them " Why don't you give me more power Huh

". Honestly Redbull don't have patience with drivers who are not behind Max every race or at least 2 places behind...

It was a good and interesting race, sorry for Marc he has a good race but i little bit over-motivation so that's race also Mir have an accident. MotoGP drivers are not so divas like soccer player, all injured driver from this week i think come back Cool

. But all have problems with the new tire at the front Huh

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So Toto Wolff released an interview today where he said something like:

We are using the oil on for extra power like the Ferrari last year but in a different way

HAHAHA, let's see what will happen but keep in mind Fia never punished NEVER the Mercedes.

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Ooh too bad for Marquez, his chances of winning a new title have now lowered a lot. It will depend on how many races he will miss.

Nice win of Hamilton, in my eyes top favorite of winning yet another title.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on July 19, 2020, 09:21:31 AM

Marc got a serious accident, he officialy broke his arms and he needs a surgery.

I don't know how long he will take but I'm guess he will need to skip atleast 1 gp, maybe 2

Oh, shit, sad to hear about that. Although, I don't follow MotoGP as much as F1, he is my favorite driver. Broken arm is serious injury and it can take a while to recover. When calendar is such intensive, it hurts even more, because he may be forced to miss several races.

Quote from: boltz on July 19, 2020, 10:32:10 AM

I found some rumors that Red Bull is sabotaging Albon in order to make place for Vettel ? Can this be true ? This was also fueled up by Albons team radio when he told them " Why don't you give me more power Huh

". Honestly Redbull don't have patience with drivers who are not behind Max every race or at least 2 places behind...

Well, maybe it's possible. Albon is good driver, but he is underperforming this season. And I'm not sure that's his fault. Especially after yesterday's Russell words that Albon is being made to look like an idiot by Red Bull. And it's true that Red Bull don't have patience with drivers. We all remember what happened to Kvyat and Gasly after they had some bad races.

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This MOTO GP was not fun at all man ,what race did you watch ? Marc just broke his arms and need urgently a surgery to them and I do hope he will be back soon but I doubt he will be the same racer Sad

as broken arms will be painful for a very long time of his life.

In F1 , was a brilliant race from Hamilton and an awesome driving style. I found some rumors that Red Bull is sabotaging Albon in order to make place for Vettel ? Can this be true ? This was also fueled up by Albons team radio when he told them " Why don't you give me more power Huh

". Honestly Redbull don't have patience with drivers who are not behind Max every race or at least 2 places behind...

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Quote from: Koal-84 on July 19, 2020, 08:50:04 AM

The pace and material (factoury bike) shows at time 3 driver for the championship, Quartararo, Vinales and when he healty Marc so we will wait about the diagnostic. Many crashes at the first race.

At Formula 1 the same pictures Hamilton #1 and than the rest....

Marc got a serious accident, he officialy broke his arms and he needs a surgery.

I don't know how long he will take but I'm guess he will need to skip atleast 1 gp, maybe 2

I found a official article, and yes the time between are very short so i'm with you and i think the next race Brno or Austria.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/07/19/marc-marquez-suffers-fractured-humerus-in-jerez-crash/334185

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Quote from: Koal-84 on July 19, 2020, 08:50:04 AM

The pace and material (factoury bike) shows at time 3 driver for the championship, Quartararo, Vinales and when he healty Marc so we will wait about the diagnostic. Many crashes at the first race.

At Formula 1 the same pictures Hamilton #1 and than the rest....

Marc got a serious accident, he officialy broke his arms and he needs a surgery.

I don't know how long he will take but I'm guess he will need to skip atleast 1 gp, maybe 2

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on July 19, 2020, 07:40:01 AM

What a fun race of MotoGP.

Marquez was 1st he went off the track, back in the 17th position.
Was fighting for the 2nd place again and he crashed.

He seems to have a serious problem in his hand if it is broken he probably can say goodbye to the title since we will have a lot of races, a shorter championship and no breaks between races.

Quartararo for the title?

The pace and material (factoury bike) shows at time 3 driver for the championship, Quartararo, Vinales and when he healty Marc so we will wait about the diagnostic. Many crashes at the first race.

At Formula 1 the same pictures Hamilton #1 and than the rest....

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