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Bottas made pole. This race will be in Mercedes power. Expect to see first two places for them in tomorrow race.

Russian Grand Prix - Qualifying Results

1. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport 1m31.528s
2. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport + 0.145s
3. Sebastian Vettel GER Scuderia Ferrari + 0.556s
4. Kimi Raikkonen FIN Scuderia Ferrari + 0.850s
5. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas F1 Team + 1.794s
6. Esteban Ocon FRA Racing Point Force India F1 Team + 2.026s
7. Charles Leclerc MON Alfa Romeo Sauber F1 Team + 2.032s
8. Sergio Perez MEX Racing Point Force India F1 Team + 2.176s
9. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas F1 Team + 2.317s
10. Marcus Ericsson SWE Alfa Romeo Sauber F1 Team + 3.809s

-- ELIMINATED IN Q2 --
11. Max Verstappen NED Aston Martin Red Bull Racing no time
12. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Aston Martin Red Bull Racing no time
13. Pierre Gasly  FRA Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda no time
14. Carlos Sainz Jr. ESP Renault Sport Formula One Team no time
15. Nico Hulkenberg GER Renault Sport Formula One Team no time

-- ELIMINATED IN Q1 --
16. Brendon Hartley NZL Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda 1m35.037s
17. Fernando Alonso ESP McLaren F1 Team 1m35.504s
18. Sergey Sirotkin RUS Williams Martini Racing 1m35.612s
19. Stoffel Vandoorne BEL McLaren F1 Team 1m35.977s
20. Lance Stroll CAN Williams Martini Racing 1m36.437s

He has not been treated like no 1 from some time now. In the incidents between the team , the team have always sided by Max Verstappen and I think rightly so. The reason is that no one can deny that max is a very young and very talented driver and Red Bull sees him as their future. Even when they will make the car for next year it will be made based on Max advice and not that of Ricciardo.

This might be one of the reasons why Daniel Ricciardo left Redbull hehehe. The team is marketing Max, not Daniel.



His position as the no. 1 driver is clearly threatened by Max, or he might not be treated as the no. 1 anymore. I reckon it is more possible that he is beginning to see that he is not being treated like the no. 1 driver anymore.

Result maybe as expected in motogp, and i agree how its much better motogp then f1, more action is in motogp by my opinion.

Race results from the 2018 Aragon MotoGP, round 14 of 19.

1. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 41m 55.949s
2. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (GP18) 41m 56.597s
3. Andrea Iannone ITA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 41m 57.208s
4. Alex Rins ESP Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 41m 58.587s
5. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 42m 1.223s
6. Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 42m 5.345s
7. Danilo Petrucci ITA Pramac Ducati (GP18) 42m 10.234s
8. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 42m 11.148s
9. Jack Miller AUS Pramac Ducati (GP17) 42m 12.324s
10. Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 42m 18.406s
11. Franco Morbidelli ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 42m 22.974s
12. Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V)* 42m 23.906s
13. Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 42m 24.770s
14. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1) 42m 28.294s
15. Karel Abraham CZE Angel Nieto Team (GP16) 42m 33.588s
16. Scott Redding GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 42m 35.534s
17. Thomas Luthi SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 42m 36.712s
18. Hafizh Syahrin MAL Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* 42m 52.245s
19. Xavier Simeon ESP Reale Avintia (GP17)* 42m 54.930s
20. Jordi Torres SPA Reale Avintia (GP16) 42m 55.462s
Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) DNF
Alvaro Bautista ESP Angel Nieto Team (GP17) DNF
Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (GP18) DNF

While F1 is more boring than MotoGP in terms of overtakes after 1 hour it starts the race of Aragon. It is a good thing for competition that the 2 Ducati-s are in front row together. Marquez being third is another bonus and is a guaranteed thing that we will see a lot of action and overtaking during this race today.

What F1 needs to change is the way cars are made, in early days in the 90 we have seen a lot of action because the driver was making a difference, now the car is making one and has become boring.

I partially disagree here Schumacher era was not boring, I have always been thrilled to see him race week after week and win it. I'll agree with you he had little or no competition boils down to the fact that other cars barely made any significant investments, politics connections also played a role. While this season technically would be boring in your words as Hamilton has won it all, barring few races. I really wish Ferrari sign Hamilton to get their glory days back.

very dificult if ferari can get lewis hamilton
i think is not not competitive in season 2019 if ferari driver hamilton and vettel
is good if ferari get vestapen or Daniel Ricciardo

The era of Michael Schumacher was the most boring era to watch F1 races during that time. Every thing was pro Ferrari at that time and it was easy for Schumacher to win without any real rivalry. In the year 2005-2006 where F.Alonso showed some real rivalry and Renault at that time did big improvements, it was the time when F1 was good to watch again on TV. That was also the end of the era of M.Schumacher and Ferrari as they only won once more with Raikkonen in 2007 but not because of Raikkonen bravery rather because Hamilton and Alonso were fighting each other more than the others.

Nowadays the F1 is not as boring as in the Schumacher era to watch but still it is a bit more boring compared to MotoGP, but that has always been the case. At least the F1 Championship is still open , with Hamilton having more chances to win it. Last race on Singapore was a beautiful one to watch.

Yes i know on this but they didnt made mistakes like they make them now. My point was on that. Shame to see but this is how thing are working in moto sport world sadly. Also McLaren was good team one of the best in that 2000 era but but cals made them struggle for some point at least one in race, shame for them.

@slocker. I reckon that time during Michael Schumacher, Ferrari rebuilt their team then, from year 2000, had the engine advantage, the technical advantage, the financial advantage and the political advantage. Yes, formula 1 is full of politics that include proposing rules that would give a team the advantage for a whole season.

Also, they had Ross Brawn as their technical director.

Sorry to mentioning something but dont remember that Ferrari made this mistakes when Schumacher was driving for them. Correct me if Im wrong on this but seem like they lose the edge or they are playing on card of fame from past years.

@Juggy777. However the engineers, the pit crew and all the rest in a formula 1 team also have an influence on a driver's race performance. If Lewis and Sebastian were on opposite teams this season, then Sebastian would be 40 points or more ahead of Lewis, I reckon.

In any case, I feel sorry for Sebastian. It is another season of hardwork but no prize.

I don't think there's any title race left and Ferrari have themselves to blame for this. Hamilton has been truly amazing this season, and it makes me think what if he were racing a ferrari, that speed and Hamilton would be a delight for all the fans. Well Perez just got lucky, these days they don't apply rules that harshly. I'm expecting Hamilton to win most of the remaining 6 races what do you'll think.

Hamilton won Singapore GP easily. I think it can be one of crucial races in this season. Now he 40 points ahead of Vettel and only 6 races remain.
Ferarri just screwed up with their strategy again. I have no idea why they selected ultrasoft tyres for Vettel on pitstop, he had no chances to win with these tyres.
And wtf Perez were doing - first he pushed Occon of the track and later he unbeleavable stupid colided with Sirotkin. I think he had to get black flag or 1 race ban at least.

Read something interesting it seem like Schumacher son will be joining formula 1 in team Sauber if he finish in top 3 spot in formula 3. Dont know if this is true or not but this isnt the first time his name is mentioned in F1. If this comes to be true hopefully he will be half the talent as his father.

@Juggy777. It might be a gamble, but it might also be the right time to give this young Ferrari academy driver an opportunity, I reckon. Sebastian might leave after another contract extension, and hiring another experienced driver, besides Lewis, might also be a gamble. Who there is left?

Also, a Max Verstappen versus Charles Leclerc excitement will be good for this sport.

Mercedes should also leave Valterri and give Esteban Ocon an opportunity hehehe. 3 young drivers in 3 top teams.

Well Ferrari is known to make mistakes when picking drivers in the past or they have good drivers and dont have good car or is it opposite. In any case this may be one of those mistakes. Kimi is experienced driver but its not that Kimi so from this angle maybe they made a good call.

I have to say I was hoping to hear Hamilton come to Ferrari than Leclerc lol, well Kimi exit was bound to happen it was only a matter of time. I'll agree I think Ferrari are taking bit of gamble by getting Leclerc in, considering the way Mercedes are racing ahead, I too would have expected someone more experienced. It'll be difficult for kimi to win, cause Ferrari will prioritise Vettle winning it.

Ferarri and Sauber announced today that Kimi will leave Ferarri after end of this season and will join Sauber. Leclerc will replace Kimi in Ferarri.
What do you think about it? Personally, I think that it's a bit to early for Leclerc to be in Ferarri, he don't have experience. I don't think that he can bring same amount of points as Kimi does.
I'm not fan of Ferarri and Kimi, but I would like to see him winning a race before he will leave Ferarri...

Confirmed that Leclerc is going to Ferrari and that Kimi is going to Sauber

I'm just glad that we still have another couple of years with the iceman