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Hey guys... It's the Chinese GP!  It would have been nice if somebody bumped the thread to remind us.  

I totally thought the race wasn't on for another two weeks.  FP1 and FP2 are done.  Hamilton is looking good it seems...

If I'm the only guy to keep bringing more info about F1, then I think I'm gonna make a thread per event in an attempt to get new people to follow the races and keep the discussions isolated per event.

2018 Chinese GP FP1 Leaderboard

1 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:33.999
2 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 0.359s
3 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 0.458s
4 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull 0.538s
5 Max Verstappen Red Bull 0.669s
6 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 0.862s
7 Kevin Magnussen Haas 1.179s
8 Carlos Sainz Renault 1.617s
9 Romain Grosjean Haas 1.719s
10 Nico Hulkenberg Renault 1.801s
11 Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso 2.038s
12 Fernando Alonso McLaren 2.045s
13 Sergio Perez Force India 2.052s
14 Esteban Ocon Force India 2.352s
15 Sergey Sirotkin Williams 2.692s
16 Brendon Hartley Toro Rosso 2.716s
17 Charles Leclerc Sauber 2.724s
18 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren 2.757s
19 Marcus Ericsson Sauber 2.91s
20 Lance Stroll Williams 3.278s

2018 Chinese GP FP2 Leaderboard

1     Lewis Hamilton     Mercedes     1:33.482 US    
2     Kimi Raikkonen     Ferrari     0.007s US
3     Valtteri Bottas     Mercedes     0.033s US
4     Sebastian Vettel     Ferrari     0.108s US
5     Max Verstappen     Red Bull     0.341s US
6     Nico Hulkenberg     Renault     0.831s US
7     Kevin Magnussen     Haas     0.976s US
8     Carlos Sainz     Renault     0.991s US
9     Daniel Ricciardo     Red Bull     1.075s US  
10   Fernando Alonso     McLaren     1.15s  US
11   Sergio Perez     Force India     1.31s US
12   Pierre Gasly     Toro Rosso     1.367s US  
13   Esteban Ocon     Force India     1.392s US  
14   Stoffel Vandoorne     McLaren     1.681s US  
15   Brendon Hartley     Toro Rosso     1.851s US    
16   Sergey Sirotkin     Williams     1.858s US
17   Marcus Ericsson     Sauber     2.142s US
18   Charles Leclerc     Sauber     2.434s  US
19   Romain Grosjean Haas 2.989s SS
20   Lance Stroll Williams 3.665s US

Ouch, I hope the Ferrari mechanic is okay.

Shame that Verstappen, Ricciardo, and Raikkonen didn't get to finish, but I'm glad that Vettel won

ninja edit The Ferrari mechanic is okay after his surgery

Just saw the replay...  Yup, Vettel managed those tires well.  But props to his whole team for getting the calculations and the pit timing right.  

And by the looks of it I think I'm gonna lose both prop bets.  Lol.

Edit:  Just read that Vettel was supposed to pit twice but his team decided to risk it and let him finish with his tires.  What a sweet win.

After this double weekend we saw many mistakes in both F1 and motoGP. We had incident with Ferrari in pit with kimi 2nd tyre change, lucky for team no injuries and that is good. Race was ok Ferrari other driver seb made then 2nd win this season, maybe they made good car this time long to play till end of this season.

In motoGP we saw one thing that was good for whole race and that was Marquez kamikaze riding. Must say this word he was great considering everything but he was this time a real kamikaze rider like those pilot in WWII. If he didnt made all those mistakes probably race would be boring this was race was good.

Argetina MOTOGP race results

1. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 40m 36.342s
2. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1) 40m 36.593s
3. Alex Rins ESP Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 40m 38.843s
4. Jack Miller AUS Pramac Ducati (GP17) 40m 40.732s
5. Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 40m 51.283s
6. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (GP18) 40m 58.875s
7. Tito Rabat ESP Reale Avintia (GP17) 40m 59.368s
8. Andrea Iannone ITA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 41m 0.263s
9. Hafizh Syahrin MAL Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* 41m 0.653s
10. Danilo Petrucci ITA Pramac Ducati (GP18) 41m 2.345s
11. Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 41m 7.364s
12. Scott Redding GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 41m 8.233s
13. Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V)* 41m 8.794s
14. Franco Morbidelli ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 41m 18.403s
15. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (GP18) 41m 18.616s
16. Alvaro Bautista ESP Angel Nieto Team (GP17) 41m 18.967s
17. Thomas Luthi SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 41m 19.692s
18. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 41m 20.202s
19. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 41m 28.424s
20. Karel Abraham CZE Angel Nieto Team (GP16) 41m 40.286s
21. Xavier Simeon ESP Reale Avintia (GP16)* 41m 46.486s
Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) DNF
Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) DNF
Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) DNF

Bahrain International Circuit, Sakhir Gulf Air

POS   NO   DRIVER   LAPS   TIME/RETIRED   PTS
1   5   Vettel   57   1:32:01.940   25
2   77   Bottas   57   +0.699s   18
3   44   Hamilton   57   +6.512s   15
4   10   Gasly   57   +62.234s   12
5   20   Magnussen   57   +75.046s   10
6   27   Hulkenberg   57   +99.024s   8
7   14   Alonso   56   +1 lap   6
8   2   Vandoorne   56   +1 lap   4
9   9   Ericsson   56   +1 lap   2
10   31   Ocon   56   +1 lap   1
11   55   Sainz   56   +1 lap   0
12   16   Leclerc   56   +1 lap   0
13   8   Grosjean   56   +1 lap   0
14   18   Stroll   56   +1 lap   0
15   35   Sirotkin   56   +1 lap   0
16   11   Perez   56   +1 lap   0
17   28   Hartley   56   +1 lap   0
NC   7   Räikkönen   35   DNF   0
NC   33   Verstappen   3   DNF   0
NC   3   Ricciardo   1   DNF   0

Note – Perez originally finished 12th but had 30s added to race time for passing on the formation lap. Hartley originally finished 13th but had 30s added to race time for failing to retake his original starting position before reaching the safety-car line on the formation lap.

iam not believe hamilton performance in early season
and vettel amazing, strong performance, but this season batle championship still hamilton vs vettel

Amazing racewith dramatic finnish. Masterclass by Vettel - 35 laps in soft tyres. One lap more and Bottas probably would overtake him.
Awful weekend for Red Bull - both drivers retired in first laps - Ricciardo retired due to technical problems and Verstappen after collision with Hamilton.
Great achievement by Gasly - he finnished 4th. Well, maybe Honda engines aren't that bad .
While Alonso now 4th in drivers championship and Mclaren 3rd in constructors cup - really solid results so far.
And Kimi had very bad accident during pit stop. One of Ferarri mechanics was injured - his leg was broken...

A shame that Verstappen crashed out of quali

Hmmm...  I think I made a big mistake in assuming that Hamilton can win at Bahrain with that grid penalty.  It's becoming some kind of trend that Bahrain is Ferrari's race.

2018 Bahrain GP Qualifying Results

Gear box change for Hamilton.  So that's a 5 place grid penalty.  But I'm pretty sure he'll ace qualifying, start at 6th and could still prolly win the race...  Remember when he started from the pit last year and still finished 4th?

Made a small bet at Nitrogen for a Hamilton win at 3.50.  

Edit:

2018 Bahrain GP FP3 Leaderboard

1 Kimi Raikkonen  Ferrari 1'29.868 
2  Max Verstappen  Red Bull  1'30.393 0.525
3 Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull 1'30.452 0.584
4 Lewis Hamilton  Mercedes 1'30.691 0.823
5 Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari 1'30.719 0.851
6 Valtteri Bottas  Mercedes  1'30.781 0.913
7 Nico Hulkenberg  Renault 1'31.144 1.276
8 Carlos Sainz  Renault  1'31.200 1.332
9 Pierre Gasly  Toro Rosso  1'31.438 1.570
10 Fernando Alonso  McLaren  1'31.445 1.577
11 Brendon Hartley  Toro Rosso 1'31.460 1.592
12 Romain Grosjean  Haas 1'31.513 1.645
13 Esteban Ocon  Force India 1'31.554 1.686
14 Sergio Perez  Force India  1'31.564 1.696
15 Kevin Magnussen  Haas 1'31.737 1.869
16 Marcus Ericsson  Sauber 1'31.859 1.991
17 Stoffel Vandoorne  McLaren 1'31.860 1.992
18 Charles Leclerc  Sauber 1'32.047 2.179
19 Sergey Sirotkin  Williams 1'32.463 2.595
20 Lance Stroll  Williams 1'32.865 2.997

I don't think that we need new separate threads for every racing series. It seems that there aren't many people on Bitcointalk who are interested in motosport and this is why this thread aren't very active. People discussing here mainly about F1 and MotoGP sometimes and while there aren't so many posts, for me it's more convenient to have one huge thread.

Results for the 2018 Bahrain GP are in.  Redbull are on top thru Ricciardo, followed by Mercedes' Bottas, Raikonnen, Vettel then Hamilton completing the top 5.  Verstappen had some electronic issues with his car, so he spent most of his time in the garage...  Nice.  It's not looking good for my side bets if this continues.  

2018 Bahrain GP FP1 Leaderboard

1 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull 1:31.060
2 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 1:31.364 0.304
3 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1:31.458 0.398
4 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1:31.470 0.41
5 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:32.272 1.212
6 Romain Grosjean Haas 1:32.516 1.456
7 Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso 1:32.779 1.719
8 Carlos Sainz Renault 1:32.885 1.825
9 Kevin Magnussen Haas 1:32.971 1.911
10 Nico Hulkenberg Renault 1:33.104 2.044
11 Fernando Alonso McLaren 1:33.223 2.163
12 Charles Leclerc Sauber 1:33.278 2.218
13 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren 1:33.364 2.304
14 Lance Stroll Williams 1:33.379 2.319
15 Sergey Sirotkin Williams 1:33.467 2.407
16 Brendon Hartley Toro Rosso 1:33.497 2.437
17 Marcus Ericsson Sauber 1:33.508 2.448
18 Sergio Perez Force India 1:33.662 2.602
19 Esteban Ocon Force India 1:33.794 2.734
20 Max Verstappen Red Bull No time set

Edit: 

2018 Bahrain GP FP2 Leaderboard

1 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1:29.817
2 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 0.011s
3 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 0.563s
4 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 0.655s
5 Max Verstappen Red Bull 0.928s
6 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull 0.934s
7 Nico Hulkenberg Renault 1.403s
8 Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso 1.415s
9 Fernando Alonso McLaren 1.465s
10 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren 1.605s
11 Romain Grosjean Haas 1.774s
12 Carlos Sainz Renault 1.784s
13 Esteban Ocon Force India 1.992s
14 Sergio Perez Force India 2.051s
15 Kevin Magnussen Haas 2.152s
16 Charles Leclerc Sauber 2.555s
17 Lance Stroll Williams 2.565s
18 Sergey Sirotkin Williams 2.657s
19 Marcus Ericsson Sauber 2.916s
20 Brendon Hartley Toro Rosso 3.091s

You guys wanna have a new thread at every racing event rather than having everything in one huge thread?  This thread is dying anyway.  I think it's better to have each race with its own thread.

That's just me, but I wonder what you guys think.

It's an F1 weekend guys...  Set your schedule.  

Will we see Vettel's finger again...?  And I wish Azguard was still around to change the poll every week...

2018 Bahrain Grand Prix Time Table
All times are local (Bahrain is GMT + 3)

Thursday 5 April
15:00: FIA press conference

Friday 6 April
12:30 – 13:30: Paddock Club pit lane walk
14:00 – 15:30: First free practice
16:00: FIA press conference
18:00 – 19:30: Second free practice

Saturday 7 April
12:10 – 12:30: Team pit stop practice
15:00 – 16:00: Third free practice
18:00 – 19:00: Qualifying
19:00: FIA post qualifying press conference

Sunday 8 April
16:40: Drivers’ track parade
16:55 – 17:25: Starting grid presentation
18:10 – 20:10: Bahrain GP
20:00: FIA post race press conference

the statements of Force India and McLaren are ridiculous! they should focus on improving their car instead of complaining about their opponents' performance!

^  LOL.  Two words...  Sour grapes.

Haas has just been around for two years and has done something with less money spent than the likes of Renault, Force India and McClaren...  What should that tell everybody?  The latter three's incompetence is being exposed.  I don't think the accusations against Haas are true.

About Haas. Force India and McClaren are demanding an investigation for their magical improvement this year. They are saying that Haas might have done something illegal and that it may have received more assistance from Ferrari.

I reckon Force India and McClaren already know that they will lose many races to Haas this year hehehe.



McLaren executive director, Zak Brown, added: "We all know they have a very close alliance with Ferrari. We need to make sure it's not too close.

"There could be some influence, there are certainly some parts of the car that look very similar."

Force India chief operating officer Otmar Szafnauer hailed Haas's sensational improvements as "magic" and wants the matter discussed at the F1 Strategy Group.

He said: "I don't know how they do it, it's magic. It's never been done before in Formula One.

"I just don't know how it can be right that someone who's been in the sport for a couple of years with no resource could produce a car like this.

"Does it happen by magic? If it does, I want the wand!

"All the aerodynamic surfaces have to be your own. If they're not, I don't know how you can tell unless you start investigating.

Source of news https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/5922978/f1-call-for-investigation-into-haas-team-and-links-with-ferrari-after-stunning-melbourne-start-to-season/

I confirm my bets and quoting this post.

I think I'm gonna regret the 'Redbull having more points than Ferrari by the end of the season' one, but whatever...  Both bets are BOOKED!  

I hope this also makes for good banter between us as we follow the season in relation to our bets.  Good luck.

A third party is welcome to requote this post as proof that the bet happened.