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Michael Hourigan
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Mal schauen was für ne Verzichtserklärung die Pappnasen schicken...an meine alte Adresse...
Topic: MtGox geht in Konkurs - page 22. (Read 317932 times)
https://www.btc-echo.de/1-300-us-dollar-fuer-einen-bitcoin/
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Es gibt frischen Wind im Fall der ehemaligen Bitcoin-Börse Mt.Gox. Denn der Hedgefonds Fortress unterbreitete Anspruchshaltern ein weiteres Angebot.
hab heute nacht wieder eine mail vom Michael Hourigan von fortress bekommen:
die wollen unbedingt meine Gox-coins
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February 17, 2020
Dear xxxxxxxxx,
We are extending a new premium price offer to the largest remaining Mt Gox creditors.
For your claim of xxxxx BTC, the new price is $xxxxxx. We have a limited amount of funding for this premium price tier, so it will be first come, first served while liquidity remains. We can make payment within 3 days of claim transfer.
The Mt Gox estate currently holds 15% of the lost BTC (141,686 BTC remaining vs. 950,000 BTC lost in the hack). This means your Mt Gox claim is backed by xxxxx BTC, assuming no dilution as a result of the disputed claims asserted by CoinLab and Tibanne (Mt Gox Trustee report can be accessed here).
At the current BTC price of $9,800, your Mt Gox account value is $xxxxxx. Therefore our offer of $xxxxxx represents 88% of your account value. We are applying this 12% discount due to the likely timeline (3-5 years) and financial risk of the ongoing litigations by CoinLab and Tibanne.
Please respond via email as soon as possible if you would like to access this liquidity option. We will only process transfers until our funding is fully allocated.
I can be reached directly at [email protected].
Sincerely,
--
Michael Hourigan
1 Market Plaza Spear Tower
42nd Floor
San Francisco CA 94105
[email protected]
415-284-7510
Dear xxxxxxxxx,
We are extending a new premium price offer to the largest remaining Mt Gox creditors.
For your claim of xxxxx BTC, the new price is $xxxxxx. We have a limited amount of funding for this premium price tier, so it will be first come, first served while liquidity remains. We can make payment within 3 days of claim transfer.
The Mt Gox estate currently holds 15% of the lost BTC (141,686 BTC remaining vs. 950,000 BTC lost in the hack). This means your Mt Gox claim is backed by xxxxx BTC, assuming no dilution as a result of the disputed claims asserted by CoinLab and Tibanne (Mt Gox Trustee report can be accessed here).
At the current BTC price of $9,800, your Mt Gox account value is $xxxxxx. Therefore our offer of $xxxxxx represents 88% of your account value. We are applying this 12% discount due to the likely timeline (3-5 years) and financial risk of the ongoing litigations by CoinLab and Tibanne.
Please respond via email as soon as possible if you would like to access this liquidity option. We will only process transfers until our funding is fully allocated.
I can be reached directly at [email protected].
Sincerely,
--
Michael Hourigan
1 Market Plaza Spear Tower
42nd Floor
San Francisco CA 94105
[email protected]
415-284-7510
die wollen unbedingt meine Gox-coins
ICh denke die wissen schon mehr als wir, daher vielleicht die erneuten Angebote. Dazu muss man bei denen jedoch KYC machen und ggfs. 6 Monate warten auf das Geld, das stand bei denen mal in deren Vertrag drinn.
hab heute nacht wieder eine mail vom Michael Hourigan von fortress bekommen:
die wollen unbedingt meine Gox-coins
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February 17, 2020
Dear xxxxxxxxx,
We are extending a new premium price offer to the largest remaining Mt Gox creditors.
For your claim of xxxxx BTC, the new price is $xxxxxx. We have a limited amount of funding for this premium price tier, so it will be first come, first served while liquidity remains. We can make payment within 3 days of claim transfer.
The Mt Gox estate currently holds 15% of the lost BTC (141,686 BTC remaining vs. 950,000 BTC lost in the hack). This means your Mt Gox claim is backed by xxxxx BTC, assuming no dilution as a result of the disputed claims asserted by CoinLab and Tibanne (Mt Gox Trustee report can be accessed here).
At the current BTC price of $9,800, your Mt Gox account value is $xxxxxx. Therefore our offer of $xxxxxx represents 88% of your account value. We are applying this 12% discount due to the likely timeline (3-5 years) and financial risk of the ongoing litigations by CoinLab and Tibanne.
Please respond via email as soon as possible if you would like to access this liquidity option. We will only process transfers until our funding is fully allocated.
I can be reached directly at [email protected].
Sincerely,
--
Michael Hourigan
1 Market Plaza Spear Tower
42nd Floor
San Francisco CA 94105
[email protected]
415-284-7510
Dear xxxxxxxxx,
We are extending a new premium price offer to the largest remaining Mt Gox creditors.
For your claim of xxxxx BTC, the new price is $xxxxxx. We have a limited amount of funding for this premium price tier, so it will be first come, first served while liquidity remains. We can make payment within 3 days of claim transfer.
The Mt Gox estate currently holds 15% of the lost BTC (141,686 BTC remaining vs. 950,000 BTC lost in the hack). This means your Mt Gox claim is backed by xxxxx BTC, assuming no dilution as a result of the disputed claims asserted by CoinLab and Tibanne (Mt Gox Trustee report can be accessed here).
At the current BTC price of $9,800, your Mt Gox account value is $xxxxxx. Therefore our offer of $xxxxxx represents 88% of your account value. We are applying this 12% discount due to the likely timeline (3-5 years) and financial risk of the ongoing litigations by CoinLab and Tibanne.
Please respond via email as soon as possible if you would like to access this liquidity option. We will only process transfers until our funding is fully allocated.
I can be reached directly at [email protected].
Sincerely,
--
Michael Hourigan
1 Market Plaza Spear Tower
42nd Floor
San Francisco CA 94105
[email protected]
415-284-7510
die wollen unbedingt meine Gox-coins
Geht einfach mal davon aus, daß die Jungs mehr über das Verfahren und vermutlich auch die zu erwartende Quote wissen. Gutmenschen sind sie sicherlich nicht und wie ein Vorredner schon schrieb, wird der Risikoaufschlag saftig sein. Unsereins weiß nicht mal wieiviele BTCs und USDs man abseits der aufgetauchten 200k Wallet noch sichergestellt hat.
Aussitzen ist sicherlich nicht verkehrt.
Aussitzen ist sicherlich nicht verkehrt.
Wie so oft. Hodl.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-12-19/fortress-said-to-redouble-efforts-to-purchase-mt-gox-claims
Fortress to Redouble Efforts to Purchase Mt. Gox Creditor Claims
Fortress to Redouble Efforts to Purchase Mt. Gox Creditor Claims
Sie hatten mir angeboten mit in btc zu bezahlen, sowie in Fiat.
Jedoch haben sie darauf hingewiesen das es bis zu 180 Tage dauern kann bis der Mt Gox Trustee den Übertrag des Claims bestätigt.
Jedoch haben sie darauf hingewiesen das es bis zu 180 Tage dauern kann bis der Mt Gox Trustee den Übertrag des Claims bestätigt.
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We are offering 70% of your current account value because of the risks described above as well as the time value of money between now and the resolution of the lawsuits.
wieso wollen sie die claims aufkaufen - erhoffen sie sich dann, diese aufgekauften claims, bei dem trustee mit einem gewinn wieder zu bekommen?Michael Hourigan, bzw. Fortress ist eine bekannte Private Equity Firma, die sicher eine gute Rechtsabteilung haben und die Erfolgsaussichten und die zu erwartende Dauer des MtGox-Verfahrens recht genau einschätzen können.
Wenn die also 70% heute bieten, dürfte das in etwa dem Zeitwert der Forderung entsprechen, plus einem angemessenen Risikoaufschlag und einer netten Rendite.
Das Angebot von Fortress enthält also im Umkehrschluss eine Information über die professionelle Einschätzung des MtGox-Verfahrens seitens der echten Profis.
Wenn ich jetzt Pi mal Daumen davon ausgehe, dass eine Private Equity Firma eine Rendite von 6% pro Jahr erwartet, und ein Risikoaufschlag von 50%* sicherlich gerechtfertigt ist, würde ich ganz grob davon ausgehen, dass Fortress intern von einer weiteren Verfahrensdauer von ca. 3 Jahren ausgeht.
Interessant- ich habe nichts erhalten - hatte jedoch vor 3 Wochen denen abgesagt... aufgrund von kyc sowie das es bis zu 180Tage dauern kann bis ich die btc‘s dann erhalte... und wer garantiert mir das der kurs in 180 Tagen der gleiche ist wie heute wenn ich anhand des kurses dann die btc‘s erhalte in spätestens 180 Tagen ?
Niemand, aber das selbe Risiko hat im Gegenzug auch der Käufer.(kann aber natürlich auch sein, dass die sich vertraglich dagegen absichern)
Interessant wäre, ob Fortress bereit wäre, die Forderung direkt in BTC abzukaufen, damit ließe sich dieses Wechselkursrisiko auf 0 reduzieren.
* 3 * 6% = 18%** + (50% von 18%)
** eigtl. ein bisschen mehr als 18%, wegen Zinseszins, aber das mag ich gerade nicht ausrechnen
hab heute nacht diese mail, von einen gewissen Michael Hourigan bekommen:
Dear *******,
We are offering a new liquidity option for Mt Gox creditors. From now until December 31st, we are willing to pay $**** for your Mt Gox claim, which is 70% of your account value held by the Mt Gox estate (details below).
How did we compute this amount?
· The most recent report from the Mt Gox Trustee shows that it holds 141,868 BTC on behalf of creditors. This amount is 15% of the 940,000 BTC which were originally lost.
· Your Account Value: your lost BTC amount (*****) X 15% (amount currently held at Mt Gox) X current BTC price ($7500) = $*****
· Our Price: $***** X 70% = $*****
Why should you consider our offer?
· At the recent creditors meeting in Tokyo, the Mt. Gox Trustee provided updates on two major lawsuits (CoinLab and Tibanne) which have been brought against the Mt Gox Estate
o These lawsuits seek total damages of more than $1 billion USD, and mark the beginning of a new phase in which the jurisdiction now moves outside of the Mt Gox estate.
o The cases are each expected to take 1-2 years for an initial ruling by a judge. Both litigants would then have an option to appeal, which could take an additional 2-3 years.
· Due to the litigations described above, the Mt Gox Court granted another extension of the deadline for the Mt. Gox Trustee to submit a civil rehabilitation plan -- until March 31, 2020. These lawsuits threaten to delay and dilute distributions on your claim.
We are offering 70% of your current account value because of the risks described above as well as the time value of money between now and the resolution of the lawsuits.
Please respond via email as soon as possible if you would like to access this liquidity option. We can make payment within 3 days of claim transfer.
--
Michael Hourigan
1 Market Plaza, Spear Tower 42nd Floor
San Francisco CA 94105
415-284-7510
[email protected]
*Non-binding indication of interest:
I am sending this to you with the understanding that it’s simply a preliminary indication of interest and is for discussion purposes only. This, of course, does not purport to contain all of the terms, conditions, covenants, representations, warranties and other provisions that would be contained in definitive legal documentation for any potential transaction. Such definitive legal documentation also may contain terms different from the terms summarized herein. This indication of interest and any terms summarized herein are not, are not intended to be, and shall not be deemed to be a binding agreement, commitment or understanding regarding any proposed transaction or otherwise.
*Confidential:
I am also sending this to you with the understanding, and by accepting this indication of interest you agree that any terms summarized herein and the fact that it has been provided and that discussions relating to a potential transaction may be occurring (“Confidential Information”) are confidential and you agree not to disclose any Confidential Information to any person other than your officers, directors and professional advisors, and then only on a “need to know” basis in connection with a potential transactions; and you may disclose the existence of this indication and any terms summarized herein to the extent necessary, in the opinion of your legal counsel, for you to comply with applicable law, rule or regulation, or legal process to which you are subject, but you will act in good faith and take reasonable actions to the sender with prior notice of any disclosure and make any such disclosure on a confidential basis.
wieso wollen sie die claims aufkaufen - erhoffen sie sich dann, diese aufgekauften claims, bei dem trustee mit einem gewinn wieder zu bekommen
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Dear *******,
We are offering a new liquidity option for Mt Gox creditors. From now until December 31st, we are willing to pay $**** for your Mt Gox claim, which is 70% of your account value held by the Mt Gox estate (details below).
How did we compute this amount?
· The most recent report from the Mt Gox Trustee shows that it holds 141,868 BTC on behalf of creditors. This amount is 15% of the 940,000 BTC which were originally lost.
· Your Account Value: your lost BTC amount (*****) X 15% (amount currently held at Mt Gox) X current BTC price ($7500) = $*****
· Our Price: $***** X 70% = $*****
Why should you consider our offer?
· At the recent creditors meeting in Tokyo, the Mt. Gox Trustee provided updates on two major lawsuits (CoinLab and Tibanne) which have been brought against the Mt Gox Estate
o These lawsuits seek total damages of more than $1 billion USD, and mark the beginning of a new phase in which the jurisdiction now moves outside of the Mt Gox estate.
o The cases are each expected to take 1-2 years for an initial ruling by a judge. Both litigants would then have an option to appeal, which could take an additional 2-3 years.
· Due to the litigations described above, the Mt Gox Court granted another extension of the deadline for the Mt. Gox Trustee to submit a civil rehabilitation plan -- until March 31, 2020. These lawsuits threaten to delay and dilute distributions on your claim.
We are offering 70% of your current account value because of the risks described above as well as the time value of money between now and the resolution of the lawsuits.
Please respond via email as soon as possible if you would like to access this liquidity option. We can make payment within 3 days of claim transfer.
--
Michael Hourigan
1 Market Plaza, Spear Tower 42nd Floor
San Francisco CA 94105
415-284-7510
[email protected]
*Non-binding indication of interest:
I am sending this to you with the understanding that it’s simply a preliminary indication of interest and is for discussion purposes only. This, of course, does not purport to contain all of the terms, conditions, covenants, representations, warranties and other provisions that would be contained in definitive legal documentation for any potential transaction. Such definitive legal documentation also may contain terms different from the terms summarized herein. This indication of interest and any terms summarized herein are not, are not intended to be, and shall not be deemed to be a binding agreement, commitment or understanding regarding any proposed transaction or otherwise.
*Confidential:
I am also sending this to you with the understanding, and by accepting this indication of interest you agree that any terms summarized herein and the fact that it has been provided and that discussions relating to a potential transaction may be occurring (“Confidential Information”) are confidential and you agree not to disclose any Confidential Information to any person other than your officers, directors and professional advisors, and then only on a “need to know” basis in connection with a potential transactions; and you may disclose the existence of this indication and any terms summarized herein to the extent necessary, in the opinion of your legal counsel, for you to comply with applicable law, rule or regulation, or legal process to which you are subject, but you will act in good faith and take reasonable actions to the sender with prior notice of any disclosure and make any such disclosure on a confidential basis.
wieso wollen sie die claims aufkaufen - erhoffen sie sich dann, diese aufgekauften claims, bei dem trustee mit einem gewinn wieder zu bekommen
Interessant- ich habe nichts erhalten - hatte jedoch vor 3 Wochen denen abgesagt... aufgrund von kyc sowie das es bis zu 180Tage dauern kann bis ich die btc‘s dann erhalte... und wer garantiert mir das der kurs in 180 Tagen der gleiche ist wie heute wenn ich anhand des kurses dann die btc‘s erhalte in spätestens 180 Tagen ?
hab heute nacht diese mail, von einen gewissen Michael Hourigan bekommen:
Dear *******,
We are offering a new liquidity option for Mt Gox creditors. From now until December 31st, we are willing to pay $**** for your Mt Gox claim, which is 70% of your account value held by the Mt Gox estate (details below).
How did we compute this amount?
· The most recent report from the Mt Gox Trustee shows that it holds 141,868 BTC on behalf of creditors. This amount is 15% of the 940,000 BTC which were originally lost.
· Your Account Value: your lost BTC amount (*****) X 15% (amount currently held at Mt Gox) X current BTC price ($7500) = $*****
· Our Price: $***** X 70% = $*****
Why should you consider our offer?
· At the recent creditors meeting in Tokyo, the Mt. Gox Trustee provided updates on two major lawsuits (CoinLab and Tibanne) which have been brought against the Mt Gox Estate
o These lawsuits seek total damages of more than $1 billion USD, and mark the beginning of a new phase in which the jurisdiction now moves outside of the Mt Gox estate.
o The cases are each expected to take 1-2 years for an initial ruling by a judge. Both litigants would then have an option to appeal, which could take an additional 2-3 years.
· Due to the litigations described above, the Mt Gox Court granted another extension of the deadline for the Mt. Gox Trustee to submit a civil rehabilitation plan -- until March 31, 2020. These lawsuits threaten to delay and dilute distributions on your claim.
We are offering 70% of your current account value because of the risks described above as well as the time value of money between now and the resolution of the lawsuits.
Please respond via email as soon as possible if you would like to access this liquidity option. We can make payment within 3 days of claim transfer.
--
Michael Hourigan
1 Market Plaza, Spear Tower 42nd Floor
San Francisco CA 94105
415-284-7510
[email protected]
*Non-binding indication of interest:
I am sending this to you with the understanding that it’s simply a preliminary indication of interest and is for discussion purposes only. This, of course, does not purport to contain all of the terms, conditions, covenants, representations, warranties and other provisions that would be contained in definitive legal documentation for any potential transaction. Such definitive legal documentation also may contain terms different from the terms summarized herein. This indication of interest and any terms summarized herein are not, are not intended to be, and shall not be deemed to be a binding agreement, commitment or understanding regarding any proposed transaction or otherwise.
*Confidential:
I am also sending this to you with the understanding, and by accepting this indication of interest you agree that any terms summarized herein and the fact that it has been provided and that discussions relating to a potential transaction may be occurring (“Confidential Information”) are confidential and you agree not to disclose any Confidential Information to any person other than your officers, directors and professional advisors, and then only on a “need to know” basis in connection with a potential transactions; and you may disclose the existence of this indication and any terms summarized herein to the extent necessary, in the opinion of your legal counsel, for you to comply with applicable law, rule or regulation, or legal process to which you are subject, but you will act in good faith and take reasonable actions to the sender with prior notice of any disclosure and make any such disclosure on a confidential basis.
wieso wollen sie die claims aufkaufen - erhoffen sie sich dann, diese aufgekauften claims, bei dem trustee mit einem gewinn wieder zu bekommen
Quote
Dear *******,
We are offering a new liquidity option for Mt Gox creditors. From now until December 31st, we are willing to pay $**** for your Mt Gox claim, which is 70% of your account value held by the Mt Gox estate (details below).
How did we compute this amount?
· The most recent report from the Mt Gox Trustee shows that it holds 141,868 BTC on behalf of creditors. This amount is 15% of the 940,000 BTC which were originally lost.
· Your Account Value: your lost BTC amount (*****) X 15% (amount currently held at Mt Gox) X current BTC price ($7500) = $*****
· Our Price: $***** X 70% = $*****
Why should you consider our offer?
· At the recent creditors meeting in Tokyo, the Mt. Gox Trustee provided updates on two major lawsuits (CoinLab and Tibanne) which have been brought against the Mt Gox Estate
o These lawsuits seek total damages of more than $1 billion USD, and mark the beginning of a new phase in which the jurisdiction now moves outside of the Mt Gox estate.
o The cases are each expected to take 1-2 years for an initial ruling by a judge. Both litigants would then have an option to appeal, which could take an additional 2-3 years.
· Due to the litigations described above, the Mt Gox Court granted another extension of the deadline for the Mt. Gox Trustee to submit a civil rehabilitation plan -- until March 31, 2020. These lawsuits threaten to delay and dilute distributions on your claim.
We are offering 70% of your current account value because of the risks described above as well as the time value of money between now and the resolution of the lawsuits.
Please respond via email as soon as possible if you would like to access this liquidity option. We can make payment within 3 days of claim transfer.
--
Michael Hourigan
1 Market Plaza, Spear Tower 42nd Floor
San Francisco CA 94105
415-284-7510
[email protected]
*Non-binding indication of interest:
I am sending this to you with the understanding that it’s simply a preliminary indication of interest and is for discussion purposes only. This, of course, does not purport to contain all of the terms, conditions, covenants, representations, warranties and other provisions that would be contained in definitive legal documentation for any potential transaction. Such definitive legal documentation also may contain terms different from the terms summarized herein. This indication of interest and any terms summarized herein are not, are not intended to be, and shall not be deemed to be a binding agreement, commitment or understanding regarding any proposed transaction or otherwise.
*Confidential:
I am also sending this to you with the understanding, and by accepting this indication of interest you agree that any terms summarized herein and the fact that it has been provided and that discussions relating to a potential transaction may be occurring (“Confidential Information”) are confidential and you agree not to disclose any Confidential Information to any person other than your officers, directors and professional advisors, and then only on a “need to know” basis in connection with a potential transactions; and you may disclose the existence of this indication and any terms summarized herein to the extent necessary, in the opinion of your legal counsel, for you to comply with applicable law, rule or regulation, or legal process to which you are subject, but you will act in good faith and take reasonable actions to the sender with prior notice of any disclosure and make any such disclosure on a confidential basis.
wieso wollen sie die claims aufkaufen - erhoffen sie sich dann, diese aufgekauften claims, bei dem trustee mit einem gewinn wieder zu bekommen
Ich bin mir sicher, hinter den Kulissen laufen schon lange Planspiele, mit welcher Begründung man das restliche Geld beschlagnahmen könnte.
Wo ein Trog steht kommen die Schweine.
du hast immer (meist) die treffenden Metaphern...
Kurzes Update: Die kaufen immernoch die Claims zurück - mir wurde heute auch gleich ein Angebot gemacht für meinen Claim - Eure Angaben werden mit der MTGox Trustee Datei abgeglichen - Danach bekommt ihr von einem Anwalt einen Vertrag den ihr unterzeichnen müsst - Auszahlung könnt ihr angeben ob in Fiat oder in BTC. Ansich ganz cool - ich hätt es auch beinahe gemacht, werde jedoch absagen - Im Vertrag steht das es bis zu 180 Tage dauern kann bis der GOX Trustee alles abgesegnet hat wenn man den Claim überschreibt. Bis dahin kann ich nicht warten auf meine BTC´s von dem Verein, schließlich weiß ich nicht wie in 6 Monaten der BTC kurs aussieht, dann würde ich weniger BTC´s im Endeffekt bekommen als wie wenn ich sie z.b. morgen bekommen würde auf meinen Anspruch der geldlichen Summe.
könntest ud mir ne adresse geben wo ich mich melden kann fürs claimen gibts da was ofizielles?ich weiß aber auch nichtmehr genau was ich bie mr gox rumliegen hatte damals
Für mich sieht es inzwischen aber doch eher nach aussitzen und warten bis das noch vorhandene Vermögen alle ist aus 
Ich bin mir sicher, hinter den Kulissen laufen schon lange Planspiele, mit welcher Begründung man das restliche Geld beschlagnahmen könnte.
Wo ein Trog steht kommen die Schweine.
Kurzes Update: Die kaufen immernoch die Claims zurück - mir wurde heute auch gleich ein Angebot gemacht für meinen Claim - Eure Angaben werden mit der MTGox Trustee Datei abgeglichen - Danach bekommt ihr von einem Anwalt einen Vertrag den ihr unterzeichnen müsst - Auszahlung könnt ihr angeben ob in Fiat oder in BTC. Ansich ganz cool - ich hätt es auch beinahe gemacht, werde jedoch absagen - Im Vertrag steht das es bis zu 180 Tage dauern kann bis der GOX Trustee alles abgesegnet hat wenn man den Claim überschreibt. Bis dahin kann ich nicht warten auf meine BTC´s von dem Verein, schließlich weiß ich nicht wie in 6 Monaten der BTC kurs aussieht, dann würde ich weniger BTC´s im Endeffekt bekommen als wie wenn ich sie z.b. morgen bekommen würde auf meinen Anspruch der geldlichen Summe.
Moin
bei bis zu 180 Tagen Wartezeit ist aber auch schon fast Mai 2020
hack es einfach ab, vergiss das Geld und freu Dich wenn es irgendwann in ferner Zukunft doch wieder erwarten was geben sollte....
Für mich sieht es inzwischen aber doch eher nach aussitzen und warten bis das noch vorhandene Vermögen alle ist aus
MFG Jens
Kurzes Update: Die kaufen immernoch die Claims zurück - mir wurde heute auch gleich ein Angebot gemacht für meinen Claim - Eure Angaben werden mit der MTGox Trustee Datei abgeglichen - Danach bekommt ihr von einem Anwalt einen Vertrag den ihr unterzeichnen müsst - Auszahlung könnt ihr angeben ob in Fiat oder in BTC. Ansich ganz cool - ich hätt es auch beinahe gemacht, werde jedoch absagen - Im Vertrag steht das es bis zu 180 Tage dauern kann bis der GOX Trustee alles abgesegnet hat wenn man den Claim überschreibt. Bis dahin kann ich nicht warten auf meine BTC´s von dem Verein, schließlich weiß ich nicht wie in 6 Monaten der BTC kurs aussieht, dann würde ich weniger BTC´s im Endeffekt bekommen als wie wenn ich sie z.b. morgen bekommen würde auf meinen Anspruch der geldlichen Summe.
Ich werde meinen Claim ausprinzipiellen Erwägungen nie verkaufen und damit einem Käufer die Macht verschaffen, sich über die anderen Gläubiger zu erheben und eine eventuelle Vorzugsbehandlung zu bekommen.
Ich habe mal Fortress angeschrieben ob sie noch Claims aufkaufen ...
hmm, und was erhoffst du dir dadurch bzw. wie lautet(e) das angebot von fortress?
Deren Angebot war damals 900$ je BTC zu bezahlen, entweder in Fiat oder in BTC die Auszahlung.
Bei den jetztigen BTC Kursen wäre das ne gute Sache - wobei ich nicht weiß ob sie noch kaufen würden da die Frist längst abgelaufen ist... aber Fragen kostet ja nix
Ich habe mal Fortress angeschrieben ob sie noch Claims aufkaufen ...
hmm, und was erhoffst du dir dadurch bzw. wie lautet(e) das angebot von fortress?
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